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SpottedTApps
Nov. 10, 2009, 02:16 PM
I hope and pray that this is the case and I hope and pray it isn't.

I caught a glimps of the original thread on Friday. Super busy weekend, but thought about it, came back here to read yesterday. Stopped at the feedstore last night to buy Equimax and DD last night.

My mare is 21. I've owned her for 16 years. 3 years ago moved from CA to FL. 1 year ago she started scratching. Her neck. Her tail. It was bad and got worse. She was pregnant. Talk to vet. Used every topical out there. Can't treat with anything till she foals. By the time she foaled she had no mane and rubbed out her whole dock. Vets wanted her on Dex, but not while nursing. In the middle of the winter, her eye started clouding up. Within 2 days the vet was out and we started treatment. Within 6 days it was completely clouded over. Hauled her to UCF where they diagnosed glaucoma. Treated for 6 weeks then returned. No better. Made the decision to "kill the eye" and relieve the pressure.

Itching got worse, now bloody raw spots on neck, back, tail, belly. Was allowed to put her on small amount of Dex when foal was 3 months old. Weaned him at 4 months and ramped up the dex which was a HUGE relief to her. Now, 2 months later the sores are gone, but she still scratches and if, lord forbid, she goes more than 1 day without the Dex, she's rubbing furiously.

This mare has been super healthy her whole life. NEVER any issues. Yet all of this has happened in the last year.

It would be nice if this solved the problems and relieved her stress, but if this was the cause of all of this? I don't know how I'll live with it? Why wouldn't this be a suggestion of the vets down here? I've never heard of it, I'm not from the area. I'm sick with anticipation to see results.

HandsomeBayFarm
Nov. 10, 2009, 02:21 PM
I really think you will be happy with the results.

You may also find that it make take another single dose of Ivermectrin 14 days after the second DD of Equimax.

I have battled this with my aged guy for sometime. This is his only relief.

Good Luck!

And if you can fast foward the giant thread to were the re-caps of all of the testimonys are. That would get you up to speed on the basis of that thread.

ChocoMare
Nov. 10, 2009, 02:33 PM
Happy deworming!

P.S. www.horsehealthusa.com (http://www.horsehealthusa.com) now has the best prices on dewormer. Finally someone beat Horse.com :D

JB
Nov. 10, 2009, 02:48 PM
That will be AWESOME if this clears up your mare!

Assuming it does, you are NOT allowed to beat yourself up for not knowing. Given how many vets don't know proper normal deworming protocols, do you really expect any of those to know anything about NTWs? Look how many people on that thread didn't know about NTWs let alone some of the issues they can cause!

Be happy you've become educated :)

SpottedTApps
Nov. 17, 2009, 10:59 AM
Well today is day 8 and she's an itchy scratchy mess. Since Sunday, I can look out almost any time of the day and find her laying on her belly rocking back and forth to scratch, or at her favorite tree rubbing her mane out. The growth I had back into her mane and tail are gone. :( I sure hope this is what it is and this fixes it, because...ug!

Androcles
Nov. 17, 2009, 12:25 PM
Stopped at the feedstore last night to buy Equimax and DD last night.

What is DD?

This mare has been super healthy her whole life. NEVER any issues. Yet all of this has happened in the last year.

Does anyone know, how could this be possible for a horse that is super healthy their whole suddenly come down with this?

BaroquePony
Nov. 17, 2009, 12:33 PM
DD = Double Dose (by weight)

If the horse weighs 800 pounds, then give enough for a 1600 pound horse.

Androcles
Nov. 17, 2009, 02:03 PM
DD = Double Dose (by weight)

If the horse weighs 800 pounds, then give enough for a 1600 pound horse.

I thought she said she was buying DD.

Calena
Nov. 17, 2009, 02:05 PM
Does anyone know, how could this be possible for a horse that is super healthy their whole suddenly come down with this?

These things are carried and spread by midges and flies. She moved from CA to FL, so it is very possible. Enviromental variances can play a big part in this.

I think of this when people claim their horses are in a closed herd, so they are immune. I wonder how being in a closed herd keeps the flies away :confused:.

JB
Nov. 17, 2009, 02:19 PM
Being born and raised in a "closed herd" is not necessarily a good thing. It takes exposure to things to develop a response to it. Correct exposures cause the body to develop correct responses (I'm simplifying this, I realize) and develop a stronger immunity.

Horses who have never gone anywhere, whose humans have never visited other farms and brought back bugs, can very easily become really sick from "normal" things because they don't have antibodies developed for it.

So sure, a horse coming from a environment where bugs are just about nothing, into an environment where life IS bugs, can easily have over-reactions to things that native horses don't even blink at.

SpottedTApps
Nov. 17, 2009, 03:22 PM
Well this particular mare sure as heck has never been in a closed herd environment. I've hauled and competed on her from the age of 5 all over the country. She has lived in CA and MI and back to CA. However, never in the South East before the move here. None of my horses had an easy transition moving here. If I'd have known how hard it was going to be on them before hand, I would have thought longer and harder about the move. However, being as they were seasoned travelers, I never thought twice about how they would handle it. Hind sight.

Gry2Yng
Nov. 17, 2009, 07:10 PM
FL has a lot of funky stuff. Lots of horses have a hard time with it. Hope the worming program works.