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Blugal
Nov. 6, 2009, 01:15 PM
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/competitionnews/391/291089.html

In 2007, British riders were required to have 4 Novice one-day HT plus either an Intermediate HT or a Novice 2-day. (I assume the significance of a 2-day is a longer or harder XC.)

Then they got rid of that because they didn't think the rules should include a requirement from the level above. So in 2008/2009 riders needed 4 Novice one-day HT with clear XC
and 16 penalties or less in show jumping.

As of 2010, British riders will be required to have either:

6 one-day horse trials at Novice; or
4 one-day horse trials at Novice plus an Intermediate, CIC* or Novice 2-day;

all of which will need clear XC and 16 penalties or less in SJ.

As far as safety goes, I'd say this goes WAY further than a one-fall-you're eliminated rule, and further than our qualifications in North America which don't emphasize experience at the level with clear XC, but rather a few events with clear XC but all events with a 50% or better dressage.

Couture TB
Nov. 6, 2009, 03:42 PM
I don't understand why the changed it to allow for not clears on XC but you have to have better dressage scores. I would rather it still be 4 clears XC to do a * and the dressage score does not matter.

gchildean
Nov. 6, 2009, 04:00 PM
Also, you have to remember that they have way more HTs than we do and they don't have to travel the distance that we do for HT. If I'm not mistaken they have 1 day HT on the weekends and during the week. With that said it It probably isn't as difficult for them to achieve these qualifications.

Blugal
Nov. 6, 2009, 04:47 PM
I see your point, gchildean.

At least for a first-timer at CCI*, though, I'd say 4 Prelim HT with clear XC and a CIC*, or 6 Prelim HT with clear XC wouldn't be out of order.

Probably not as necessary for experienced riders. OTOH, perhaps at this level, it would be beneficial for horses - experience at Prelim does a lot to build a foundation for Int/Adv., and maybe making it a requirement would prevent some ULR rushing young horses up the levels before they have the base XC skills they need. (It's not just the competitions, but the schooling in between which they need.)

bornfreenowexpensive
Nov. 6, 2009, 08:21 PM
the USEF rules now require clear xc for your qualifying scores to do a CCI*. You need 4 prelim HTs with clear xc, scores below 50 in dressage and I think 16 pp or less in sj.
Here is the chart for the rule....it became effective spring 2009
http://www.useventing.com/resources/files/docs/2009_explanation_of_qualifiers.pdf

Janet
Nov. 6, 2009, 09:19 PM
further than our qualifications in North America which don't emphasize experience at the level with clear XC, but rather a few events with clear XC but all events with a 50% or better dressage I don't understand this statement.
If you have ANY jumping penalties on XC, it isn't a qualifying result (QR).
If you have more than 16 penalties on SJ it isn't a QR,
If your dressage score is over 50 it isn't a QR.
A result with a good dressage, but jumping penalties on XC DOESN'T COUNT for qualifying, under CURRENT US rules.

Blugal
Nov. 6, 2009, 11:49 PM
OK, my bad. I looked at this document (http://useventing.com/resources/files/docs/2009_explanation_of_qualifiers.pdf) in the explanation but not the tables at the bottom (where it shows the requirement for clear XC for QR at the one-star level only).

If you look at the Canadian criteria (link here (http://www.equinecanada.ca/index.php?option=com_docman&task=cat_view&gid=200&Itemid=365&lang=en-GB)), it is not even clear whether you need a clear XC or not to achieve a QR.

Even so, for Canadians only 3 QR are required to compete in a CCI*.
For Americans it looks like 4 QR with clear XC are required.