TB Bloodline Gurus

[Cassy's Mom]

Hello,

I'm sure you probably get sick of these requests but I couldn't help myself. Could someone take a look at this mare's bloodlines and tell me if you think there's any good sport horse blood in there?
http://www.pedigreequery.com/lustres+image

I'm not actually looking for a mare to breed, but rather to event. I'm not sure which TB bloodlines are known for soundness / longevity. I thought it was interesting that Secretariat was so close...

[vineyridge]

First of all, she's from female family 23-b, which is probably the greatest "American" line in existence. It traces back to the import Gallopade in the 1840's and has produced superior horses in America off and on ever since. Probably the most famous "recent" 23-b horse was Triple Crown winner Affirmed. There are many, many more.

All of her lines have TBs who are good in sport. Cabin, for example, kind of makes my heart go pitty pat. His sire comes from established sport lines for generations, and his dam line to Lea Lane does as well.

You have three Princequillo lines, two through Prince John and one through Somethingroyal. In 1995, according to Dr. Birdsall, the three top sire lines for AHSA winners in jumping disciplines were Man O'War, Nasrullah and Princequillo. Princequillo was especially noted for his disposition and his conformation, and two other Prince Rose stallions have made their marks in the jumping disciplines as well--Prince Bio and Prince Chevalier. The latter was considered the greatest chasing sire of the middle 20th century.

Of course Northern Dancer/Danzig/Corridor Key are superior athletes. This is less a chasing line than many Northern Dancers, however. Prince John's dam is by Count Fleet, and that's a proven jumping line from the USET TB days. Turn To is the sire of Best Turn and Hail To Reason among others, and these are excellent eventing lines found in most modern event horses. Mumtaz is by Mahmoud out of a Sir Gallahad (Teddy/Plucky Liege) daughter, whose dam line is quite nice. One of the sires in the tail female line is Friar Rock, sire of Friar's Carse, who was a spectacular broodmare, especially when bred to Man O'War. Her descendants include War Relic, War Kilt, etc, and War Relic is the only surviving male Man O'War line left.

Herbager is an established source of stamina and soundness. It has been said that he is the only stamina source imported from Europe in the past fifty or so years. He is also found in many WB pedigrees from descendants from his days in France.

Counterpoint is another line to Count Fleet, and Recce is by Mahmoud out of the good broodmare Schwester by Pennant. Pennant is probably the best single line of American jumping horses that weren't sired by imports--if that makes sense.

Tinner's Way was Secretariat's last runner and a good one too. He apparently is still standing in Texas. http://www.keyranch.com/Tinners_Way.htm All of his lines are good for sport.

On the bottom, the only line that gives pause is Reviewer, who is somewhat infamous for less than strong legs. He was the sire of Ruffian, and I believe broke his own legs something like three times. Spanish Breeze was a daughter of Windy City, who is in GP jumper lines, so Miss Reviewer might not have inherited her sire's fragility. However, Silent Review had only 4 starts and won three of them. That certainly doesn't look very promising. Your horse's dam had 13 starts, which is about average for this day and age.

There are lots of well established sport horse lines, in the bottom three or four.

But the top is really, really nice; and I love your tail female line if it's sturdy.

[Cassy's Mom]

Wow!!! Thank you so much for all the good info!

She actually isn't even for sale I don't think...but I watched her run at a track close to me and fell in love. Then noticed she hasn't been doing that well this year and started to get a glimmer of hope they might part with her...

I've got an inquiry in now. It's rare a horse catches my eye and there was a lot to like about this girl.

[camohn]

A lot of nice classic sport lines when you get 4 generations back........like 7/8s of them and more importantly missing are some really "fragile" current race horse lines. I agree with Viney that Shenendoah Gal is the only iffy one in the lot.......so not bad!