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Bensmom
Oct. 20, 2009, 02:06 PM
Taz is going happily at home in a mullen mouth D happy mouth. For being out and about in excitement, though, he has had a nice french link tom thumb pelham.

I'd like to combine the two and find him a bit with some brakes that he likes the mouthpiece of better. I've wrapped the mouthpiece of the FL pelham with vetrap for now, but he says that is pretty yucky too.

I would love to find a Happy Mouth, french link or double jointed, short shank pelham -- is such a critter even available? Should I stop looking and have the leather guy cover my french link pelham with soft leather?

Suggestions on where I might look?

Thanks!

libby

Hilary
Oct. 20, 2009, 02:12 PM
Why not a mullen mouth (Straight bar) pelham? You can wrap that easily if you can't find a plastic one?

Or am I mis-reading and it's the happy mouth part of the D ring he likes, not the mullen?

Bensmom
Oct. 20, 2009, 02:22 PM
Well, that is an option -- Happy Mouth makes a mullen.

But, I really want the double jointed mouthpiece and he LOVES the Happy Mouth material.

He is much more steerable in the double jointed mouth piece and less likely to lean, so I'd like to find both double jointed pelham and Happy Mouth material.

Gotta be difficualt! Happy Mouth makes a mullen and a single joint and EVERYONE sells those. I just can't find double jointed, pelham, Happy Mouth.

It could just be that I have an equiptment obsession and have to pick something tough to find to feed the need to search and shop! :lol: ;)

mjrtango93
Oct. 20, 2009, 02:22 PM
[QUOTE=Hilary;4448902]Why not a mullen mouth (Straight bar) pelham? You can wrap that easily if you can't find a plastic one?QUOTE]

Happy Mouth actually makes this as well. I used to use this on my upper level guy.

A french link pelham even with a short shank seems pretty strong!

tarheelmd07
Oct. 20, 2009, 03:17 PM
would this work - looks like a happy-mouth knockoff...
http://www.saddleshop.com/cgi-bin/shopper.exe?preadd=action&key=05-0337&reference=/cgi-bin/shopper.exe%3Fsearch%3Daction%26keywords%3DK0049%2 6searchstart%3D0%26template%3DTemplates\SearchResu lt.html

Dover also has elevator bits with the french-link happy mouth or the double jointed roller mouthpiece

GleeRider
Oct. 20, 2009, 09:29 PM
http://www.doversaddlery.com/happy-mouth/c/1464/l/3/c2c/ln/

^
You can get happy mouth bits in litterally any bit style you want. Here are some above.

Risk-Averse Rider
Oct. 20, 2009, 10:47 PM
I have a 3 ring Happy Mouth with a roller in the middle - never used it because the roller is on a cable, so I figured there was an excellent chance it would slide sideways and pinch the tongue. :eek:

I didn't realize that the roller was on a cable when I ordered it, and it was inexpensive enough that it wasn't worth the hassle of returning it.

Bensmom
Oct. 21, 2009, 12:40 AM
GleeRider -- you are right -- there are a LOT of happy mouths listed there on Dover's page -- just not the one I'm looking for -- I had looked there and several other places before I asked here.

The three ring one is an option, but I wanted to make sure what I wanted wasn't out there before I gave up. The pelham in the link above is close -- shanks are just longer than what he has.

Before I make a decision, does anyone remember the link for the fabulous British shop with tons and tons of bits? I think Robby posted a link to it at one time . . .I could even search!! ;) :lol: So much easier to pester you guys, though! :lol:

Thanks!

Libby

Peggy
Oct. 21, 2009, 01:24 AM
Would a pelham with a flexible rubber mullen mouthpiece work? There's one here (http://www.equusport.com/category.php?category_id=56), along with a french-link rubber pelham. I use that pelham on my horse who also goes in a duo loose-ring snaffle at home and a waterford-D at shows.

The link is to a fairly dangerous website, but the guy will let you try most of his bits.

JumpingBug
Oct. 21, 2009, 01:41 AM
these are mullen but soft in the middle without a joint that can pinch. I WILL NOT use happy mouths as I hate how they can get sharp as the plastic can be gnawed on easily which is why they are so cheap. If I need something soft we always go with Nathe or the duo. If you scroll down there are some duo's with whoa but soft mouth pieces .

The bottom 2 bits on link below

http://www.horsebitbank.com/sprenger-duo-bits-22.dhtml?manufacturer_id=4


oh maybe this sounds like what you describe

Nathe D Cheek French Mouth Kimberwick

http://www.equusport.com/item.php?item_id=711&category_id=54



these are the nathe ones

http://www.horsebitbank.com/nathe-pelhams-82.dhtml?manufacturer_id=9

*Liz*
Oct. 21, 2009, 02:06 AM
What about a happy mouth mullen pelham ? Seems like that would combine the 2 bits well.

http://www.smartpakequine.com/ProductClass.aspx?productclassid=4995&cm_mmc=Froogle-_-Shopping%20Feed-_-NA-_-14995

Peggy
Oct. 21, 2009, 02:57 AM
What about a happy mouth mullen pelham ? Seems like that would combine the 2 bits well.

http://www.smartpakequine.com/ProductClass.aspx?productclassid=4995&cm_mmc=Froogle-_-Shopping%20Feed-_-NA-_-14995My horse hated that mouthpiece with a passion. As you said, seemed like a good idea, but I think he despised the wavey-ness. Or something. He ate thru it. Thus I feel obliged to warn others.

IFG
Oct. 21, 2009, 08:08 AM
Another option is the Stubben EZ control bit. My horse who usually does dressage in a Nathe loose ring loves these bits. He used to go in a Happy Mouth two ring, and he hunts in a vulcanite pelham (cheap off Ebay), but he loves the Stubben mouth. It is a french link that does not bend in past the mullen. Hard to explain, but it keeps it from pinching him. He had started to get sores and a piched tongue from the HM bits, so the EZ control solved the problem.

kookicat
Oct. 21, 2009, 08:30 AM
http://www.neueschulebits.com/

Is that the site you were thinking about?

IFG
Oct. 21, 2009, 09:26 AM
There is also:

www.shop4bits.com

scubed
Oct. 21, 2009, 05:28 PM
It costs an absolute fortune, but does appear to exist:

http://www.equusport.com/item.php?item_id=645&category_id=118

Not soft mouth, but nice KK mouthpiece:
http://www.doversaddlery.com/product.asp?pn=X1-010514&bhcd2=1256156617

JumpingBug
Oct. 21, 2009, 07:24 PM
"scubed
It costs an absolute fortune, but does appear to exist:

http://www.equusport.com/item.php?it...ategory_id=118"

Christ um THAT IS A LOT OF BIT.. Like some weird hackamore gag thing... I would call that all the breaks! LOL

nathe does make the french mouth she was asking for in a pehllam "type"

http://www.equusport.com/item.php?item_id=711&category_id=54


But also pricey but cheaper than the $330 bucks ;-) only $260 something muhahahah they are all insanely expensive. The link above is exactly what she describes though so maybe it will work LOL