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Underdog
Oct. 6, 2009, 08:17 PM
What? No chatter?
Where's Glimmerglass?

Who's in the early field at Santa Anita.

Let's hope those winds will be at bay. Pun intended. ;)

Zenyetta a sure thing?
MTB...notta. Summer Bird? Eh.

What about the Lemon Drop kid. One big win? Will there be a contender for the girl?

Glimmerglass
Oct. 6, 2009, 08:37 PM
You now have started the official 2009 BC thread :D

The central resource for the the two-day event is: http://www.breederscup360.com/

My wife asked if I wanted to go to LA for the BC this year and I have to say I just shrugged and said lets not. I'll watch it on tv and wager on it but I cannot say I'm psyched for it - at least not yet.

Still we're going to see Summer Bird and Mine That Bird in the Classic plus plenty of other stars putting on a true show.

Not to go negative, but hopefully the officials will work a bit more on the course itself. Per the Daily Racing Form (10-5-09) (http://www.drf.com/news/article/107837.html) week one at Oak Tree (Santa Anita) has not been without breakdowns:


Blackbriar was the second horse to be euthanized in the first week of the Oak Tree at Santa Anita meeting, a subject of concern for the track's president Ron Charles.

"We went five months, and 14,000 workouts without a fatality and then that happened," Charles said.

The incidents with Blackbriar and Grazen come at a time when the Pro-Ride synthetic surface is being strongly scrutinized by local horsemen who have said the surface has caused minor injuries that have forced horses to the sidelines. The track will play host to the Breeders' Cup races on Nov. 6-7.

Charles said the track will not undergo any significant renovation before the Breeders' Cup, but will be closely monitored by officials.

One horse I'm looking forward to seeing is in the BC Juvenile on Nov. 7. Bob Baffert trained Lookin at Lucky is:


[Baffert]... "the best 2-year-old I've had in the last five years. I can't remember more than five years."

On a more serious note, Baffert said, "He's sort of a different horse than I've ever had. I'm becoming a big fan of his now, watching him run."

And of course the BC Officials are said to be pressing the connections of Sea The Stars to run in the US. Considering his performances are adding up to the big question being asked "is he the greatest?" that would be a coup if he did run in the BC.

We'll see what happens ....

Underdog
Oct. 6, 2009, 09:08 PM
If I remember my geography correctly...we are both native NY'ers?
From Rochester area originally.

Yeah. Not surprised about the concern about the surface. Hyperbole? Or reality?
You have the finger on the pulse there more than I.

Baffert needs a win. More Hyperbole?
:-)

Gald to be the offical asker of the *pick your brain peeps* to start this thread.
You always have great advice.
I listen.

danceronice
Oct. 6, 2009, 10:28 PM
*sigh* Maybe they can prep Sea the Stars for next year so he could meet Rachel Alexandra.

Until/unless his connections announce he's shipping over, I'm for Summer Bird in the Classic and don't have any else I'm sold on (though I would not be disappointed if MTB pulled off another upset. I like the Birdstone boys.)

As for the Juvenile...I try to never get attached! ;)

Zevida
Oct. 8, 2009, 01:22 PM
Icon Project was not entered in the Spinster. She supposedly skipped the Beldame to run on the synthetics in Keeneland. I'll be very interested to read what happened there.

http://www.drf.com/static/entries/11/eKEE11.html#9

Glimmerglass
Oct. 8, 2009, 01:29 PM
Icon Project was not entered in the Spinster. She supposedly skipped the Beldame to run on the synthetics in Keeneland. I'll be very interested to read what happened there.

Yep, and it's a surprising move as she was the assured favorite for the Spinster. Plenty of time to still be fresh for the BC although maybe the soggy weather forcast played a role. DRF 10-8-09 (http://drf.com/news/article/107874.html)


The $500,000 Juddmonte Spinster Stakes, to be run Sunday, lost its top contender and likely favorite when trainer Marty Wolfson announced this week that Icon Project will skip the race and head straight to the Nov. 6 BC Ladies' Classic.

Glimmerglass
Oct. 14, 2009, 11:44 PM
Looks like you can almost forget 'Icon Project' in the "Ladies Classic" (http://drf.com/news/article/108083.html)


... has a "less than 50-50 chance" of running in the $2 million Breeders' Cup Ladies' Classic on Nov. 6 at Santa Anita's Oak Tree meeting, trainer Marty Wolfson said Wednesday.

According to Wolfson, Icon Project bled during a workout at Calder in preparation for the Spinster. She has been sent to a farm in Ocala, Fla., where she is receiving regular treatments in a hyperbaric chamber.

Also Kodiak Kowboy is likely a skipper too per the DRF (http://drf.com/news/article/108092.html):


Among the leading members of the division not likely to make the trip west is the Steve Asmussen-trained Kodiak Kowboy, winner of the Grade 1 Vosburgh earlier this month, whose status for the Sprint remained tenuous at best on Wednesday.

"No definite decision has been made one way or the other, but Steve is concerned how much the last race took out of him," said Tom Ludt, general manager of Vinery Stables. Vinery owns Kodiak Kowboy in partnership with Fox Hill Farm. "At this point, I'd say it's more than likely he will not go."

If Kodiak Kowboy does stay home, it would mean the two fastest horses on the East Coast will be passing the Sprint.

Trainer Todd Beattie has already stated that Vosburgh runner-up Fabulous Strike would skip the Breeders' Cup because it is being run on the Pro-Ride surface.

DickHertz
Oct. 15, 2009, 10:33 AM
We can all thank Greg Avioli for this nonsense. I know the reasons vary, but the if the race was contested on regular dirt the best North American horses would do everything they could to run on the big day. Hopefully the lack of participation and the poor ticket sales will make this Breeders Cup the last one ever contested on used goodyear tires.

War Admiral
Oct. 17, 2009, 09:34 AM
I agree - the plastic does appear to be a failed experiment.

All the same - you gotta kinda loff MTB at his current outsider odds of 50-1!

Gestalt
Oct. 17, 2009, 10:45 AM
50 to 1 :lol: I might have to take those odds! Seriously, I hope MTB is in the top 4, he doesn't have to win, but I'd like to see him get a paycheck. That's what a good gelding is all about imho. Staying sound and making money. :cool:

DickHertz
Oct. 17, 2009, 11:16 AM
I think Mine That Bird may surprise people at the Breeders Cup. It's not like recent form had ANYTHING to do with the results of last year's Breeders Cup. How soon we all forget...

War Admiral
Oct. 17, 2009, 11:35 AM
That's what a good gelding is all about imho. Staying sound and making money. :cool:

...And then coming home with ME to be a little dressage pony! :yes::lol:

If I only lived in a state where gambling was legal, and despite my BIGTIME crush on the Little Big Hoss (probably the only person in America still glued to his stallcam!), I think I'd still play Mastercraftsman/Summer Bird/Mine That Bird 1-2-3, with a side bet on MTB to win b/c at those odds you just kinda HAVE to. :)

bort84
Oct. 19, 2009, 05:41 PM
...And then coming home with ME to be a little dressage pony! :)

You'll have to go through me first! I have a serious crush on that little horse. I'm just imagining how cute he'd look out in pasture with my little 15 hand leopard appy - he's a longshot too, and a dressage prospect, haha. I just adore his little face and ears! I'd love to try him as an eventer too = ) I hope he stays sound forever because I love rooting for this horse. And I kind of love Chip Woolley too, haha. It's just a feel good team.

50-1. Wouldn't it be great if he randomly decides he loves the "fake" stuff and won at the same odds as when he was in the Derby? Haha, a girl can dream. Do you think his odds will stay that high?

Okay, enough MTB love. I sound like a teenager at a Backstreet Boys concert. Back to the serious race talk.

Underdog
Oct. 19, 2009, 08:28 PM
:-)
Seriously...wasn't the poly*ester*track Dickinson's marketing genius?
Double blind study says.....back peddle.

The birds probably own the classic.

cloudyandcallie
Oct. 19, 2009, 08:38 PM
I wish Zenyatta would run against the boys.

Glimmerglass
Oct. 19, 2009, 09:33 PM
More likely qualified runners but skippers ...

Field Commission earned a guaranteed berth Cup Turf Sprint (http://drf.com/news/article/108228.html), but [the connections were] leaning toward passing on a trip to California. The $90,000 required payment is the issue.

Etched is expected to bypass the Breeders' Cup Classic (http://drf.com/news/article/108233.html) and instead point for the Grade 2, $400,000 Clark Handicap at Churchill Downs.

Mine That Bird (http://drf.com/news/article/108230.html) worked on the SA surface without much flash on Monday Oct 19:


Mine That Bird's time was the 35th of 40 recorded works at the distance. Ridden by jockey Joe Talamo, substituting for regular rider Calvin Borel, Mine That Bird worked alone, starting before the half-mile pole and working past the finish line.

Trainer Chip Woolley said he did not intend for Mine That Bird to have a flashy workout.

In the "Year of the girls vs. Boys" we have another female to take on males for the first time in the Breeders' Cup: Gotta Have Her's (winner of the Grade 3 Sen. Ken Maddy Handicap at Santa Anita on Saturday) has led trainer Jenine Sahadi to plan a more ambitious spot - the $1 million Breeders' Cup Turf Sprint here Nov. 7. (http://drf.com/news/article/108230.html)

Glimmerglass
Oct. 20, 2009, 11:20 PM
Another - "thanks, but no thanks" - Macho Again will take a pass on the BCC (http://blog.timesunion.com/horseracing/no-breeders-cup-for-macho-again/3407/)

He'll likely go to the Clark Handicap at Churchill Downs in Nov

Glimmerglass
Oct. 21, 2009, 09:20 AM
More skippers: Rail Trip (winner Hollywood Gold Cup) and Gitano Hernando (winner Goodwood Stakes) (http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/editorial/news/article.cgi?id=16619) - both will not appear at the Breeders' Cup.

Rail Trip is a bit off with foot problems and Gitano Hernando is still a bit exhausted. Gitano will instead go for the bigger brass ring of the Dubai World Cup - which will for the first time in 2010 be on synthetics.

All the more evidence that Zenyatta's connections should put her in the BCC as it's getting rather fluffy with proven Grade 1 winners on synthetics not in force. Who knows maybe even MTB will hit the board ;)

Rubyfree
Oct. 21, 2009, 09:45 AM
I'm excited to see summer bird run, and happy to get a chance to watch so many nice euro horses compete, but.... can we change the title of this thread to "The impending lameness of the Breeders Cup"?
I'm actually glad so many owners and trainers are standing their ground on the anti-synthetics hill, even though it means this years cup won't be as fun to watch (and bet). I'd like to think that'd teach 'em to run it on plastic, especially two years in a row, but BC management haven't shown themselves to be quick learners. Sigh.

LivviesMom
Oct. 21, 2009, 11:19 AM
Its a shame Field Commission is passing.. he ran a nice race at Woodbine. Lovely horse.
We had three stakes that day. Champs D'Elyse won the 2 million Pattison International.. not sure if that horse is heading down for the breeders though.

Linny
Oct. 21, 2009, 12:02 PM
It looks like none of the 3 winners of "Win and In" races at Woodbine last week are going. Champs Elysees is supposed to retire to Banstead Manor and the winner of the EP Taylor is not nominated. So much for that great idea...
Rainbow View is expected to go to the Cup though.

Other "outs" include Fabulous Strike, macho Again and Gitano Hernando.

Laurierace
Oct. 21, 2009, 12:46 PM
Win and you're in is a stupid concept anyway as most of the time the races do not overfill. It should be win and you don't have to pay anything at all to run in the race period. That would be worth striving for, especially for a non nominated horse.

Linny
Oct. 21, 2009, 01:25 PM
WIYA is meaningless if they require huge supplements for winners of the events. Also, most of the races are won by horses that would get in anyhow. It's not like the winner of the Goodwood or the Whitney will be forced out.

ivy62
Oct. 21, 2009, 03:09 PM
I wish MTB would try the marathon not the classic...might be more to his liking with the added distance..Wondering if Zenyatta will face the boys? any word?

LivviesMom
Oct. 21, 2009, 03:12 PM
Rainbow View is a nice little filly too. I had her in the test barn at Woodbine. Irish bred I believe.
Its a shame none of the woodbine winners are in.. the supplements are pretty brutal

Zevida
Oct. 21, 2009, 03:20 PM
Win and you're in is a stupid concept anyway as most of the time the races do not overfill. It should be win and you don't have to pay anything at all to run in the race period. That would be worth striving for, especially for a non nominated horse.

No kidding. I think some marketing person thought up Win and You're In to generate excitement in some races hoping that the public wouldn't be smart enough to know it is a stupid concept. As you said, the races rarely overfill and the horses that belong in the race are the ones that get in.

Just read on Blood Horse that Gitano Hernando won't be going to the Breeders' Cup. So another WAYI horse skipping the Breeders' Cup.

Glimmerglass
Oct. 21, 2009, 04:11 PM
.... to generate excitement in some races hoping that the public wouldn't be smart enough to know it is a stupid concept.

Worth stating is that I really think the whole program means zip to the general public. Horsemen? Sure, but as we all know its always been "win and you get an invite but no free ride". As for waiving the fee I really don't see how the BC could afford that. They aren't wallowing in money right now [core reserve funds placed in investments have tanked, etc] and there is no oil well in the desert funding these two days of racing ;)

Now I'd like to think there are some smart marketing & finance people within the BC organization who could come up with some "free passes" for those horses who have been above and beyond the rest and should get a free ride. Maybe a point system for the last 12-months with racing.

There was an article in the last few days (I don't have the time to hunt it down) that stated that this Breeders' Cup would be the last of its kind in many ways. Among the "won't happen again" - any track with a synthetic main track and even two day format. I presume also no track will host it back-to-back even if it was Churchill Downs however there are valid marketing reasons to retain that concept.

Zevida
Oct. 21, 2009, 04:20 PM
My favorite idea (that I originated!) for the Breeders' Cup is to split up the turf and dirt races and hold them on the same day at different tracks. You open up the available track options, including holding the turf races overseas and truly making it a World Championship. Imagine the dirt races at Belmont and the turf at Longchamp. Or the dirt races in Japan and the turf races at Colonial Downs. Plus, you can run the races every 15-20 minutes on TV which is going to make it a heck of a lot easier to consume for the TV watcher. I'm sorry but the 40 minute wait between races is not interesting to the casual viewer.

Glimmerglass
Oct. 22, 2009, 10:07 AM
Zevida - interesting idea. I'd say a variation on that could be great.

Example: reduce it back to 1 day but in large part those races that would've been on Friday are separately held at other tracks on the same day as the primary host BC track.

So for an illustration: the BC is at Churchill Downs, however timed in between the races on site would be select other BC races in the US and maybe abroad. So between the 6th and 7th races at CD would be a Breeders' Cup race held at Belmont, then between the 8th and 9th races at CD would be a Breeders' Cup race held at Hawthorne, etc.

The wealth could be spread as per say to smaller tracks who could never host the big BC day at their tracks. Either owing to the lack of stabling for that many horses or even the seating. However on that one day they'd have a single big purse Grade 1 BC race with the nations best in that category. Fans would still go to the big BC day at Churchill but those who can't but can only get to say the Illinois track can see at least one big race there and get simulcasted racing.

TV viewers are given back to back races without much down time. Not unlike what the Sunshine Millions Day does between Santa Anita and Gulfstream - switching back and forth.

The only rub is that with less time between races the wagering pools suffer. The more time you give people to make bets the more money is wagered. Long lines at terminals just are a fact of life and so if you go from having 20-min between races down to just 10-min that will significant eat into the all important wagers. Another downside is (at least for me) watching another track's racing on the tv monitor while at another track actually sucks for the most part.

Still an interesting concept.

Back to this year's BC: there will be no Baffert vs Lukas in the JV.

Lukas' very promising colt Dublin (http://www.drf.com/news/article/108282.html) (although who didn't have the success/luck in the Champagne Stakes) will skip going on to California. The surface being the big concern as Lukas is no fan of it. Bob Baffert will be in that race with the early favorite (and possibly an early Kentucky Derby favorite) Lookin at Lucky.

Not all bad news as another bright Juvenile star will ship in from NY for the JV: D' Funnybone trained by Rick Dutrow.

Glimmerglass
Oct. 22, 2009, 06:46 PM
As cited Dutrow will have the highly regarded D'Funnybone in the JV but worth noting is that IEHA just purchase for the BC JV specifically Radiohead - a Brit based runner (http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/53087/ieah-purchases-euro-juvenile-radiohead) who won the group II Norfolk Stakes at Royal Ascot. No Dutrow doing double duty however for IEHA as Radiohead's British trainer Brian Meehan will continue his services until at least the BC.

Other IEAH runners for the Breeders Cup:


Court Vision in the TVG Breeders' Cup Mile (gr. IT), Amen Hallelujah in the Juvenile Fillies (gr. I), and Diamondrella in the Turf Sprint.

Glimmerglass
Oct. 24, 2009, 12:35 PM
Looks like you can almost forget 'Icon Project' in the "Ladies Classic" (http://drf.com/news/article/108083.html)

Also Kodiak Kowboy is likely a skipper too per the DRF (http://drf.com/news/article/108092.html)

Well two changes ...

Icon Project is retired (Oct 23rd) with a tendon injury (http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/53100/icon-project-retired-with-tendon-injury)

and a reversal

Kodiak Kowboy WILL race in the BC Sprint afterall (http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/53097/change-of-plans-kodiak-kowboy-to-bc-sprint)

He will however be skipping Frank J. De Francis Memorial Dash (gr. I) to be held today in Maryland.

Still no word on what Zenyatta's connections will decide. In the interest of fairness as folks gave Jess Jackson a hard time on RA going into the Travers or Woodward the connections of Zenyatta should be getting the same. However little in the press whines about the indecision that is going on (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trolcS3V7dY).

ESPN/DRF Jay Privman 10-24 "Classic still possible after Zenyatta work" (http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/horse/breederscup09/news/story?id=4590035)


Pre-entries for the Breeders' Cup are due on Monday, and will be officially announced on Wednesday.

Glimmerglass
Oct. 25, 2009, 09:22 PM
Indian Blessing to skip the BC F & M Sprint (http://drf.com/news/article/108404.html) per Bob Baffert. 2007 BC JV Filly winner and 2008 BC F & M Sprint runner up isn't doing well on the Pro Ride surface at Santa Anita, per Baffert, so she'll skip the big race.

This could mean the end of her career as she is to retire for 2010 and become a mom ....

Misremembered to skip the Breeders' Cup Dirt Mile (http://drf.com/news/article/108380.html) and will opt (as have others) for the $400,000 Clark Handicap at Churchill Downs Nov 27th. The three year old who is a winner of two Grade 2 races in 2009 is co-owned by Bob Baffert's wife Jill.

He is most likely to aim towards two bigger races in early 2010: the Strub and then Santa Anita Handicap.

Zevida
Oct. 27, 2009, 05:53 PM
Pre-entries announced tomorrow! I can't wait!

I'm expecting to see Zenyatta pre-entered in both the Distaff and the Classic and that they drag it out and make us wait until entries next week.

WinterTriangle
Oct. 28, 2009, 04:53 AM
I wish MTB would try the marathon not the classic...


That's what I was thinking! (another MTB lover here). I like the way Wooley gallops the heck out of him, lots of works, then gives him less closer to race...he is building endurance in that little hoss. He just worked a bullet this week.

mastery looks pretty dangerous in the marathon, though. As does Father Time, who won the G1 King Edward VII at Ascot.


I personally am staying away from Summer Bird. As you know, his original trainer (Sadler, who knows SA) sent him back east, he didn't like synth, when Ice picked him up. Yes, he's matured, and is a different horse now, but that's always going to be a nagging alarm for me.....

Overall, I'm going to look for horses peaking, who were pointed toward FALL campaign, not Spring, as the latter may be tired by now?


Do ya'll have any thoughts about the steeplechase? I know NADA about that kind of racing!

broke my heart about Icon Project. She was my horse for Ladies classic. I think Proviso is in via frankel/dominguez, dangerous trainer jock combo? Cocoa Beach loves synth, think she is dangerous. Waiting to hear about Zenyatta.......

Glimmerglass
Oct. 28, 2009, 09:44 AM
To the best of my knowledge, these horses are pointing towards the following BC races.
Turf
Conduit

Hopefully with no threats against him.

(UK) Guardian 10-28-09 "Man charged over alleged threat to kill Conduit" (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/oct/28/threat-to-kill-conduit-charge)


The life of the leading racehorse, Conduit, was allegedly threatened this summer by a blackmailer who sought to prevent its participation in Ascot's premier race.

The menacing demands are said to have been sent by text message and email, threatening to kill the horse if it was not withdrawn from the King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Stakes in July. Conduit was then a short-priced favourite for that prestigious race, which he went on to win.

The world is certainly filled with whacked out people.

Glimmerglass
Oct. 28, 2009, 11:28 AM
Pre-entries announced for the Breeders Cup: (link below)

http://www.breederscup.com/content.aspx?id=42710

As expected Zenyatta is cross-posted as an entry for both the Ladies Classic and Breeders' Cup Classic

Glimmerglass
Oct. 28, 2009, 05:05 PM
Worth pointing out is that Zenyatta is listed for the BCC as the preferred race (over the Ladies Classic) and the connections are indicating that is the place they'll go (http://blog.timesunion.com/horseracing/looks-like-the-breeders-cup-classic-for-zenyatta/3451/):


Trainer John Shirreffs, speaking on a national teleconference call Wednesday afternoon, said a final decision would come after Zenyatta works six furlongs on Saturday. But it looks as though she’ll be in the starting gate for the 1 1/4 mile Classic with the likes of, among others, Summer Bird and Rip Van Winkle and Colonel John and Einstein and Mine That Bird.

“We are definitely leaning towards the Classic,” Shirreffs said. “It is obviously a big challenge but, if she is doing well and peaking towards that race, there is no reason not to go in that race. If she is doing really well and we were not to do it, it might be a big mistake.”

An early resource: DRF's (pdf) BC Pre-Entires chart with Mike Watchmaker's odds listed (http://www.drf.com/newsletter/BCpreentries_102809.pdf)

The Euros look to out in force with some 37 entries (up from 31 last year) and frankly in a race like the Breeders' Cup Turf the organizers should cut the check already (http://drf.com/news/article/108463.html) to a horse like Conduit. The field for that race is both thin and weak. As noted by the DRF:


The Turf, while luring defending race winner Conduit, also drew just nine runners, including Summer Bird, who is expected to run in the Classic. The quality of the Turf drops alarmingly after the top few contenders.

Glimmerglass
Oct. 29, 2009, 03:14 PM
The announced tv coverage:


Friday, November 6: 3 - 7 p.m. Eastern ESPN 2

BC Ladies' Classic (G1)
BC Filly & Mare Turf (G1)
BC Juvenile Fillies (G1)
BC Filly & Mare Sprint (G1)
BC Juvenile Fillies Turf
BC Marathon


Saturday, November 7: 1:30 - 3:30 p.m. Eastern ABC Sports
BC Dirt Mile (G1)
BC Juvenile Turf (G2)
BC Turf Sprint


..continued but 3:30 - 7 p.m. Eastern switching to ESPN
BC Classic (G1)
BC Turf (G1)
BC Sprint (G1)
BC Mile (G1)
BC Juvenile (G1)

Glimmerglass
Oct. 29, 2009, 06:09 PM
An interesting new type of wager for the BC: winningest jockey (http://drf.com/news/article/108491.html)


Breeders' Cup plans to offer a parimutuel bet on which jockey has the most wins in the 14 Breeders' Cup races.

Though the field for the wager has yet to be set, the bet will likely have 14 wagering interests, according to Ken Kirchner, the simulcasting consultant for Breeders' Cup. The 14th betting interest will be a field comprising all jockeys that are not named individually, and ties will be treated as a dead heat, Kirchner said. Wagering will open on Nov. 5, after riders have been named.

Further on the airing times:

The Friday card will start at 11:15 a.m. Pacific with two allowance races. All listed as Pacific Standard Time:

The first Breeders' Cup race, the Marathon, will go off at 12:35 p.m., and will be followed by the Juvenile Fillies Turf (1:08), the Juvenile Fillies (1:45), the Filly and Mare Turf (2:23), the Filly and Mare Sprint (3:02), and the Ladies' Classic (3:45).

On Saturday, the first Breeders' Cup race, the Juvenile Turf, will go off at 10:45 a.m., followed by the Turf Sprint (11:23), the Sprint (12:10), the Juvenile (12:49), the Mile (1:28), the Dirt Mile (2:12), the Turf (2:57), and the Classic (3:45).

Glimmerglass
Oct. 30, 2009, 01:04 PM
All things considered the Breeders' Cup Classic (assuming Zenyatta is in there) looks to be a very good wagering race. No one is going to be a single standout and that includes Zenyatta. A lot of folks will wager with their hearts and drop her odds to the likely favorite but that is a massive risk.

From the BloodHorse's Steve Haskin 10-30-09 (http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/53211/classic-offers-tough-handicapping-challenge)


Zenyatta’s speed figures cannot match up to the many of the boys in here, but she’s been winning despite ridiculously slow fractions and just doing just what she has to.
Still, the hardcore bettor likely will stay away, looking for more value. That leaves a hodgepodge of horses from all walks of life converging on the Santa Anita Pro-Ride Nov. 7, most of whom would not be a surprise should they win.

I wouldn't be shocked if Rip Van Winkle (IRE) shipped in for O'Brien pulls off the win then again about five others can make the case too. Summer Bird will be right in there and Colonel John too. Not to rub it in but I simply do not see how MTB will hit the board with that much talent in the field.

War Admiral
Oct. 30, 2009, 01:13 PM
Not to rub it in but I simply do not see how MTB will hit the board with that much talent in the field.

As you know, I'm fond of the li'l pony, but I actually agree w/ you IF Zenyatta, Mastercraftsman and RVW all run. OTOH if NONE of them do... ??? :lol:

grits
Oct. 30, 2009, 11:53 PM
Oh, ouch. I'm just noticing that the COTH forums will be offline 4-6 November (http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/announcement.php?f=80&a=56). It's going to be a lonely run-up and then a lonely day at the races . . . . :(

Glimmerglass
Oct. 31, 2009, 05:34 PM
Per her workout this AM - Zenyatta is a go for the BCC (http://drf.com/news/article/108586.html)


[John Shirreffs ] has seen what he wanted to see. After her final workout on Saturday morning at Hollywood Park, Shirreffs said all systems were go for Zenyatta to race in the BC Classic next Saturday at Santa Anita's Oak Tree meeting.

War Admiral
Nov. 1, 2009, 11:08 AM
Per her workout this AM - Zenyatta is a go for the BCC (http://drf.com/news/article/108586.html)

Boogers! Exciting for racing fans in general of course, but for us li'l Bird fans, not so much....

Grits - maybe we should start thinking now about another place to temporarily congregate... The Outside Course maybe?

Glimmerglass
Nov. 2, 2009, 07:14 PM
Just for War Admiral with MTB (http://drf.com/news/article/108637.html)


Regardless of how Mine That Bird does on Saturday, Woolley said he will get a well-deserved rest.

"He'll be turned out in New Mexico," Woolley said. "He's been up all year. He needs a little rest, 45 to 60 days off. Then we'll see what to do in the spring."

Although keep in mine there is the dark horse of Richard's Kid in that BCC too and right now Bob Baffert could send out a donkey tied to a tree and he'd stand a chance to win on that Oak Tree track. The man sold his soul to the devil or something :D Sunday was "the Bob Show" in fill display and all three of his BC starters - Zensational and Lookin at Lucky - all are loaded for bear.

ps - the on/off and off/on saga with Kodiak Kowboy going to the BC ended. He won't be going after putting a poor work on the Pro Ride surface. Scoping of his lungs showed mucas so he's a no-go (http://drf.com/news/article/108623.html).

In a tip the New York Yankees and the phrase Murders Row - 1927 lineup - Godolphin stables is being said to have something of the same (http://drf.com/news/article/108632.html) in reference to the shedrow at Santa Anita:


Aligned along the west side of the shed row were the colts: Pyro, Ancient Title winner Gayego (Sprint), 2008 BC Juvenile winner Midshipman (Dirt Mile), Super Derby winner Regal Ransom (Classic), and Jerome winner Girolamo (Classic). Facing them were the girls: the Ladies' Classic runners Cocoa Beach and Music Note, winners of the last two Beldames, and the Filly and Mare Sprint contenders Sara Louise, fresh from a sterling second to champion Indian Blessing, and Seventh Street, winner of the Apple Blossom and Go for Wand.

Glimmerglass
Nov. 2, 2009, 08:18 PM
With the COTH going on hiatus I'd recommend for a BC resource the Thoroughbred Times Breeders' Cup section- example with the JV (http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/breeders-cup/race.aspx?id=juvenile")

They showed prep-races, outcome, video replay (as available), etc

Just 3-days and 16 hours until the first BC races ...

Zevida
Nov. 2, 2009, 10:18 PM
Are entries tomorrow? I can't wait! I'm taking Friday off. Only partially because of the Breeders' Cup, but it certainly will help make an enjoyable day!

Glimmerglass
Nov. 3, 2009, 10:20 AM
As the trainer it must be also nice to be the exercise rider as you're not going to get that with Todd Pletcher ;)

Video of Einstein's 4 furlong work Nov 1, 2009 with Helen Pitts-Blasi up: (see @ 6.30 mark of there abouts) (http://www.youtube.com/user/tvgnetwork#p/u/0/UADdu3vh7Cs)

Interestingly enough at 7 years old this is Einstein's first Breeders' Cup appearance.

Glimmerglass
Nov. 3, 2009, 04:13 PM
Surprisingly jockey Rosemary Homeister Jr. if she wins the BC Marathon on Cloudy's Knight (http://drf.com/news/article/108657.html) would be only the 2nd BC victory by a female jockey. There have been 23 Breeders' Cup starts by female jocks. Only Julie Krone aboard the filly Halfbridled (2003) found the winner's circle.

Julie Krone is the all-time leading female jockey with 3,704 wins, while Rosemary Homeister passed Patti Cooksey for second on July 20 at Colonial Downs in Virginia by riding her 2,138th winner. As of Monday, Homeister had upped her career total to 2,194.

All of the women we've started in the BC (starts):
Donna Barton (2)
Julie Krone (17)
Greta Kuntzweiler (1)
Lisa McFarland (1)
Chantal Sutherland (1) and yes it was on Mine That Bird in 2008
Francine Villeneuve (1)

Cloudy's Knight, age 9, trained by Jonathan Sheppard should be a solid contender. The gelding bred and owned by Shirley and Jerrold Schwartz, is a Sovereign Award champion of 2007 who has earned more than $2.25 million in a 38-race career.


Sheppard said that although Cloudy's Knight has never raced on a synthetic surface, he believes turf horses tend to make a smooth natural transition and that the gelding has trained well over the Polytrack at Keeneland in recent weeks. He also said he is confident in the job Homeister will do.

"She rides a fine race," said Sheppard. "We're very glad to have her."

Glimmerglass
Nov. 3, 2009, 04:35 PM
Perhaps the worst kept secret: Jerry Moss confirmed Tuesday 10-3-09: Zenyatta in the BCC against the boys (http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20091103/SPORTS08/911030344/1002/sports/Unbeaten+Zenyatta+to+run+in+BC+Classic)


“She deserves the chance to show what she can do,” said Jerry Moss, who owns the 5-year-old mare with his wife, Ann. “By the nature of her two recent works, she’s certainly shown us she’s ready to perform at her best level.”

Also Chip Woolley would make Summer Bird the favorite (http://blog.timesunion.com/horseracing/woolley-would-make-summer-bird-classic-favorite/3468/) in the BCC - not his own Mine That Bird ;)


When asked what odds he would make for his horse, he grinned, threw a coffee cup into the trash and said, “50-1.” Same odds Mine That Bird went off at when he woin the Derby.

“Realistically, I should out to be 25-1, 30-1,” Woolley said of his horse, who has not won a race since the Derby. “If I was the oddsmaker, I would make Summer Bird the favorite. I don’t care what anyone says, that horse has run huge. He is not the same horse that he was when he ran in the Kentucky Derby.”

HRTV is carrying the position announcement live now (4pm EST)

ivy62
Nov. 3, 2009, 04:48 PM
I wish someone would tell CW that he should run MTB in the Marathon not the clasic...
JMHO

Glimmerglass
Nov. 3, 2009, 05:24 PM
I am looking at the ML odds and I have no idea what substance this person was on but IMHO they'd have a very hard time justifying many of them.

Zenyatta is listed as the favorite at 5-2 !?! from PP 4; a couple of others: Summer Bird is 9-2 and Rip Van Winkle is 7-2

DeucesWild11
Nov. 3, 2009, 10:38 PM
Anybody else think that Evita Argentina listed at 20-1 is a bit out there??? I love that filly- I however, hope she stays that far out, I'd like to make a buck. I loved watching her take on the boys this past spring, she's quite game.

Glimmerglass
Nov. 4, 2009, 10:55 AM
Some possible foot issues with Rip Van Winkle could force a withdrawal before the Breeders Cup Classic (http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/53287/rip-van-winkle-fighting-another-foot-injury)


O’Brien told the Racing Post Tuesday, “This horse has had no clean run this year and he hasn't had one this time.’ The problem is again a foot problem but this time a different foot is affected.”

Rip Van Winkle is the overwhelming 6-4 favorite with William Hill and Coral. O’Brien said Rip Van Winkle will go to the track on Wednesday, after which they will determine the extent of the injury.

“With Rip Van Winkle it's always been day by day,” O’Brien said. “What he's done up to now I've been amazed that he's been able to do."

FatDinah
Nov. 4, 2009, 12:49 PM
Just wondering, why is Joe Talamo exercising Mine That Bird but Calvin Borel is the race jockey?

Drvmb1ggl3
Nov. 4, 2009, 01:29 PM
Borel is riding at Churchill. Talamo is based at SA.

Glimmerglass
Nov. 4, 2009, 02:16 PM
Contrary to suggestions before with a foot problem, Rip Van Winkle is IN and will not be a scratch. His work and examination today all were good and he's a go.

Glimmerglass
Nov. 4, 2009, 03:35 PM
Tidy free resources:

PDF: Equibase Friday PPs (excludes non-BC races 1-2) (http://www.equibase.com/bcup2009/premiumpps/09bcuptv-friday.pdf)

PDF: Equibase Saturday PPs (excludes non-BC race 1) (http://www.equibase.com/bcup2009/premiumpps/09bcuptv-saturday.pdf)

Larksmom
Nov. 6, 2009, 03:48 PM
Well, since I don't bet, I was screaming my lungs out neverthe less, for Cloudy's Knight. :yes:
He missed by an eyelash. Ah well, good on you Man of Iron! a half brother to Jazil and Rags to Riches. :lol:
on to the fillies!

Glimmerglass
Nov. 6, 2009, 03:50 PM
ESPN/ABC's camera work is EXCELLENT for the 1st race

Race 3 (but first BC race): the Marathon was Close by a sliver after 1 3/4 miles.

The great old man 9-yr old Cloudy's Knight loses by a nose to Man of Iron. Rosemary and Jonathan Sheppard should hold their heads up high.

A distant third was the favorite - Mastery.

An aside: (as ABC noted) trainer Bobby Frankel who has been battling lymphoma and unseen for most of 2009 was checked into Cedar's this week.

Barnfairy
Nov. 6, 2009, 03:53 PM
Oh, the agony of defeat for Rosemary Homeister...that was close. I'll bet she's kicking herself for conceding the rail.

Glimmerglass
Nov. 6, 2009, 04:01 PM
Proof again that Sheppard knows how to work miracles!

He was doing very poorly in 2008, was given a break, transferred to Sheppard and went 2 2-0-0 and now just misses a BC race by a nose. Whatever he does is working as he's been working with often horses who aren't the mega names, but making them into gems.

Glimmerglass
Nov. 6, 2009, 04:25 PM
JV Fillies Turf

1- Tapitsfly
2 - Rose Catherine
3 - House of Grace

Sadly my wagers which bought into the Euro machine are just dying thus far. Lily Langtry is still struggling somewhere out there on the track .... maybe she'll find Father Time another bomb.

cloudyandcallie
Nov. 6, 2009, 05:28 PM
Btw, is this the first year where there is a legitimate chance of girls claiming the three biggest prizes on the BC card?
Zenyatta - Classic
Da Re Mi - Turf
Goldikova - Mile

Then there's Diamondrella who's a live shot in the Turf Sprint.
First, I hope all the horses make it safely around the track in every race. Secondly, I hope all the girls beat the socks off of the boys! It would be great publicity for the sport.

iloverocky
Nov. 6, 2009, 07:07 PM
What a nice race for Life is Sweet!!

vineyridge
Nov. 6, 2009, 07:37 PM
I was really impressed with the Strawbridge horse that won the Sprint. Strawbridge and Sheppard have won so much, both on the flat AND over fences, that I found it really touching that Strawbridge (hated his hat) got choked up over his filly, who held off Ventura with a nice closing kick.

If Zenyatta is that much better than Life Is Sweet, maybe she really does have a chance in the Classic. I'm still thinking she ought to be a longshot instead of the favorite. :) If she wins this one, maybe she really is as good as her record--at least in California. :)

Glimmerglass
Nov. 7, 2009, 12:31 PM
George Strawbridge Jr (Augustin Stables) is perhaps one of the last of the US larger scale, old school stables, with runners in steeplechase as well flat dirt and turf in the US, Canada and Europe. A bit of a more quiet version of Paul Mellon if that is even possible as Paul was by no means brash and loud.

"Ladies Day" as Oak Tree/Santa Anita was better attended this year:

Attendance was announced at 37,651, up from last year's Friday crowd of 31,257, when ticket prices and general admission were much higher. On-track handle on the nine-race card was $7,097,789 — up 4 percent over last year's 10-race card.

And in case the obvious was somehow lost it bears repeating: Every favorite lost on the Friday Breeders' Cup card.

iloverocky
Nov. 7, 2009, 01:58 PM
Anyone else in love with Pounced?

He's a real looker!

Rubyfree
Nov. 7, 2009, 02:27 PM
Have to say that the vastly improved camera work over last year is a real pleasure.

DLee
Nov. 7, 2009, 05:05 PM
I was lucky enough to see Goldikova win in Deauville this summer, how very cool to see her win again today! And to have a Miesque granddaughter in my field. :)

Glimmerglass
Nov. 7, 2009, 05:25 PM
Nice to see Furthest Land the Ken Ramsey-owned, Mike Maker trained, and Julien L. rode horse taking the big upset! Julien now with 3 victories in the BC over the last 24-hours.

Once again - aside from Goldikova - I haven't seen a favorite win a race today. Plenty of double-digit longshots findings their rightful place in the winner's circle.

VirginiaBred
Nov. 7, 2009, 05:38 PM
Once again - aside from Goldikova - I haven't seen a favorite win a race today.

Hopefully, that will not be the case in the Classic.

GreenMachine
Nov. 7, 2009, 05:49 PM
Has there been a main track winner on today's card whose last prep was on dirt? Steve Crist mentioned on his blog that there were none yesterday.

Samotis
Nov. 7, 2009, 05:49 PM
Ready's Echo was amazing in that last race. Some of his strides doubled the other horses. Another second and he would have won!

Didn't the favorite win the first race? The chestnut with the white socks?

danceronice
Nov. 7, 2009, 05:57 PM
Ready's Echo was amazing in that last race. Some of his strides doubled the other horses. Another second and he would have won!

Didn't the favorite win the first race? The chestnut with the white socks?

For anyone who hasn't seen it, go to youtube and look up Ready's Echo maiden debut for Tom Durkin's call. Coming from WAY back to finish second is kind of his trademark (and prompted one of the better race calls, even for Durkin.)

DLee
Nov. 7, 2009, 06:09 PM
Wow! How fun to watch Precious Passion galloping so beautifully on a long rein, all by himself. :yes:

sparky6
Nov. 7, 2009, 07:02 PM
SHE DID IT!!!!!! GO girl!

VirginiaBred
Nov. 7, 2009, 07:03 PM
SUPER HORSE!!!!!

HORSE OF THE YEAR!!!!!

Czar
Nov. 7, 2009, 07:05 PM
Woohoo!!! What a race - I thought she was doomed coming out of the gate like that and than she miraculously overtook the entire field!!! What a girl!

Rubyfree
Nov. 7, 2009, 07:07 PM
YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!
*Standing Ovation*

danceronice
Nov. 7, 2009, 07:13 PM
Zenyatta for HOTY! That trumps RA, Summer Bird was fairly beaten.

GreenMachine
Nov. 7, 2009, 07:20 PM
Does a single impressive performance trump a year's worth of historical performances? It'll be interesting to find out. Hats off to Big Z and all her connections for a fantastic win.

Sugarbrook
Nov. 7, 2009, 07:20 PM
OH MY I am out of breath. What a girl. I LOVE LOVE LOVE HER, but Hey, didnt I say that before?

ivy62
Nov. 7, 2009, 07:23 PM
It has to be...if anyone doesn't agree I want to know why? WOW!!!! WOOHOO....
Yeah Zenyatta..
Thank you Jerry Moss and I have to say Jesse Jackson for giving us one of the best years racing has seen in a long time......

Beverley
Nov. 7, 2009, 07:29 PM
That was very, very special.

nickers@dawn
Nov. 7, 2009, 07:29 PM
I don't think my heart can handle any more excitement! Just beautiful-what you dream racing can be.

dressagetraks
Nov. 7, 2009, 08:11 PM
I'm working today and only caught the Classic live by carefully scheduling my dinner break. The rest is recorded (I hope) for later viewing.

Did everybody make it all the way around today? Except Quality Road, of course, and I was very glad to see them scratch him. He hit that gate awfully hard wheeling around. Hopefully his bangs were the worst injuries we had today.

GreenMachine
Nov. 7, 2009, 08:49 PM
It has to be...if anyone doesn't agree I want to know why?

I don't have a vote, and I would be happy with HOTY for either the filly or the mare, but the case for Rachel Alexandra is pretty compelling:

First, the overall record: 8-8 on 7 different tracks

Next, the historic significance of her campaign (info from Wiki):
Martha Washington: Stakes record.
Kentucky Oaks (Gr I): A final time of 1:48.87, just missing the stakes record for 1 1/8 mile of 1:48.64 set by Bird Town in 2003. Largest winning margin ever.
Preakness Stakes (Gr I): First filly to win the Preakness since 1924.
Mother Goose Stakes (Gr I): A final time of 1:46.33, breaking the stakes record and just missing the Belmont track record for 1 1/8 mile of 1:45.40 set by Secretariat in 1973. Largest winning margin ever.
Haskell Invitational (Gr I): A final time of 1:47.21, just missing the stakes record for 1 1/8 mile of 1:47.00 set by Bet Twice in 1987 and Majestic Light in 1976. Just missed the Monmouth track record for 1 1/8 mile of 1:46.80 set by Spend a Buck in 1985
Woodward Stakes (Gr I): First filly or mare to win the Woodward, the first 3yo filly to win a G1 route on dirt in New York since 1887.

And, just as Zenyatta ran only as fast as necessary in her starts against CA females, many of RA's near-record times came when she was being geared down in the final furlong or 1/16th.

We're looking at two once-in-a-lifetime animals which means a HOTY debate. It's been a fantastic year.

Rubyfree
Nov. 8, 2009, 11:08 AM
I'm working today and only caught the Classic live by carefully scheduling my dinner break. The rest is recorded (I hope) for later viewing.

Did everybody make it all the way around today? Except Quality Road, of course, and I was very glad to see them scratch him. He hit that gate awfully hard wheeling around. Hopefully his bangs were the worst injuries we had today.

I haven't seen it mentioned yet that while there were no breakdowns, Lillie Langtry, who went off as the favorite in the Juvenile Fillies Turf, apparently suffered a slab fracture in a knee during the race. Link to the Bloodhorse article-

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/53350/lillie-langtry-suffers-knee-fracture?id=53350

Quote from Magnier- "She has a small fracture in her knee. It was nobody's fault and everybody here at Santa Anita dealt with it efficiently. It's not a career-threatening injury. She will have a pin inserted in the knee on Sunday and then she will follow on home in 10 days time."

I hope it's as minor as they say.

I've been one of those folks jumping and squealing about the BC being at SA two years in a row, but must admit that yesterday was a great day of racing, even before the magnificent crowning performance. Nice to see the American horses holding their own.

Glimmerglass
Nov. 8, 2009, 05:47 PM
Barnfairy did you make a wager? :D

One person scored big in New England (http://drf.com/news/article/108811.html)


Zenyatta's popular win in Saturday's Breeders' Cup Classic at Santa Anita capped a $2 pick six that returned $1,838,305 to one ticketholder.

According to track officials, the bet was placed through a Lewiston, Maine, bet-processing hub.

The pick six pool reached $3,313,244, well past the guaranteed figure of $2 million. It was not easy to hit. The winners were Dancing in Silks ($52.60), Vale of York ($63.20), Goldikova ($4.80), Furthest Land ($44.60), Conduit ($3.80), and Zenyatta ($7.60).

Glimmerglass
Nov. 8, 2009, 05:58 PM
The perfect weather - and reduced admission price plus de-coupling the mandatory two day purchase - all made for a vastly improved spectacle with the crowds. Those who did show up were certainly richly rewarded with some fantastic racing!


According to figures released on Saturday evening by the Breeders' Cup, Saturday's program drew an ontrack crowd of 58,845, an increase of 6 percent over 2008. Friday's attendance was 37,651, a 20 percent increase, leading to a two-day ontrack attendance of 96,496, a gain of 11 percent over 2008.

Someone cited Presious Passion just missing the Breeders' Cup Turf victory which was a shame as provided the turf is firm he always stands a very good chance to win. (The Arlington Million this year had turf which had been rained on and was very yielding so he didn't stand a chance)

He simply runs lights out, like a switch either its on or off - no easing into 100% strength. This was PP this summer: re-watch his track record effort in the United Nations (Grade 1T) this year (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q4ROcNqjMA). He's got gobs of speed and hell no he won't rate whatsoever.

Beverley
Nov. 8, 2009, 07:20 PM
I enjoyed Presious Passion's run, and the replay you posted looked pretty much the same- jockey loops the reins and then inches them back up to get him in gear. Seems to work well for him!

Glimmerglass
Nov. 9, 2009, 12:29 PM
For all those dirt horses who avoided the Breeders Cup there is some validity: From the San Diego Union Tribune (http://www3.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/nov/08/del-mar-official-gets-special-view-of-zenyattas/):

Over two years of Cup racing at Santa Anita, not one horse who made its previous start on a dirt track won a race on the synthetic main track.

Proof again that synthetic is not dirt and is truly a 3rd surface unto itself which should not be used in lieu of a Dirt race.

Cited by one trainer on one of the BC pre-race programs was that its fine of the BC wants to call it the BC Synthetic Mile but don't call it the Dirt Mile.

A few other post-Breeders Cup actions:

Mine That Bird (http://drf.com/news/article/108825.html) will not in 2010 return to run on any synthetic surfaces.

Forever Together likely made her last career start with the 3rd place finish in the Breeders' Cup Filly and Mare Turf. The 2008 Turf Mare Eclipse winning, George Strawbridge Jr owned, mare will likely join his breeding program.

Rainbow View a 3-yr old George Strawbridge Jr runner from Europe will be transferred from trainer John Gosden to Jonathan Sheppard. The multiple group 1 winner finished 5th in the Breeders' Cup Ladies' Classic - her first start on a synthetic surface. Look for Rainbow to become 2010's Forever Together ...

Summer Bird will follow the late Tin Cup Chalice (http://drf.com/news/article/108826.html) in racing next in the $2.8M Japan Cup Dirt in December. He'll leave California November 17 for the December 6th race.

Cannonball will add to his passport (http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/editorial/news/article.cgi?id=16871) which is amazing for a US horse. Racing in England this year, then the US, and now off to Hong Kong.


who will make his next start in the Hong Kong Sprint (G1) on December 13. "After Hong Kong, he will go to Australia to run in the Coolmore Lightning Stakes ([Aus-G1] at Flemington) on January 30. Then it will be back to Royal Ascot next year."

The four-year-old gelding was shipped to the Royal Ascot meet in England in June, finishing second by a neck in the Golden Jubilee S. (Eng-G1)

As for Presious Passion he's all good and the connections very happy.
He'll be flying back to New Jersey [today] and the owners have talked about a race in Hong Kong later this year. He'll be staying at Gulfstream Park again this winter.

Glimmerglass
Nov. 24, 2009, 11:53 AM
A few other post-Breeders Cup actions:

Cannonball will add to his passport (http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/editorial/news/article.cgi?id=16871) which is amazing for a US horse. Racing in England this year, then the US, and now off to Hong Kong.


who will make his next start in the Hong Kong Sprint (G1) on December 13. "After Hong Kong, he will go to Australia to run in the Coolmore Lightning Stakes ([Aus-G1] at Flemington) on January 30. Then it will be back to Royal Ascot next year."

Cannonball has arrived in HK however he's got an elevated temp. Do you think that will stop him? Nope. Per the Racing Post it's still a go (http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/hong-kong-temperature-unlikely-to-rule-out-cannonball/656253/international/):


Hong Kong Jockey Club's International Racing Manager Mark Player.

"A bit of a temperature after a long flight is all it is, but he'll have a couple of easy days and he will be fine," he told the South China Morning Post.

"He's getting vaccinated on Monday for Japanese encephalitis, as the plan is for him to go on to Australia after here and it is required for him to enter there, so, all in all, it was a wise decision to come early. It gives them plenty of time to get over any issues like this."

Cathay Pacific Hong Kong Sprint is on December 13.

Glimmerglass
Jan. 4, 2010, 05:59 PM
Hopefully with no threats against him.

(UK) Guardian 10-28-09 "Man charged over alleged threat to kill Conduit" (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/oct/28/threat-to-kill-conduit-charge)


The life of the leading racehorse, Conduit, was allegedly threatened this summer by a blackmailer who sought to prevent its participation in Ascot's premier race.

The menacing demands are said to have been sent by text message and email, threatening to kill the horse if it was not withdrawn from the King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Stakes in July. Conduit was then a short-priced favourite for that prestigious race, which he went on to win.

The world is certainly filled with whacked out people.

Following up this story ....

The Times Jan 4, 2010 "Syndicate bagman Andrew Rodgerson threatened to kill top horse" (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6975530.ece)

Excerpt


A desperate man who placed bets for a gambling syndicate threatened to kill a top racehorse if the owners did not withdraw it from one of the sport's most prestigious races, Bolton Crown Court has been told.

Andrew Rodgerson, 26, panicked when he realised that he would be left owing £55,000 to the betting ring because he had failed to place a bet on Conduit to win the King George Vl and Queen Elizabeth Stakes at Ascot in July last year.

He sent a series of increasingly desperate text and e-mail messages to Peter Reynolds, general manager of the Ballymacoll Stud, the horse's Irish owners, and industry leaders, warning them that their valuable thoroughbred would be killed unless it was scratched.

Rodgerson was arrested and, three days later, Conduit, ridden by Ryan Moore, and trained by Sir Michael Stoute, romped home to win the £500,000 race.


Judge Nield told Rodgerson that others must be deterred from holding the racing industry to ransom as she sentenced him to eight months and two weeks in prison before suspending the term for two years.


Duncan Wilcock, for the prosecution, told the court that Mr Reynolds received the first text shortly after 3pm on Wednesday July 15, ten days before the race.

It read: "Dear Peter, We would just like to warn you should Conduit run in the King George then the horse will be killed".

Mr Reynolds, who said later that he had never received such a message in 37 years in the sport, contacted Sir Michael at his Newmarket yard, where Conduit was stabled.

Per another article the Judge remarked:


Sentencing him to 34 weeks in jail, suspended for two years, Judge Angela Nield said he had embarked on a "foolish escapade".

She accepted his actions had no practical consequences in that Conduit lined up for the King George and actually went on to claim victory, but she said a message of deterrence had to go out.

I'm sure somewhere in 1973 someone quipped to another person, "you did place our bets on Secretariat to win the Belmont, right?" Only to get the "I thought you said Sham" with a flush face :D