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tarheelmd07
Oct. 5, 2009, 12:29 AM
I've started the search for my next eventer, and I'm looking at a lot of OTTBs in various stages of their post-racing careers. Came across this guy, who I'm planning to go take a look at in person, and was interested to see if anyone had any thoughts on his pedigree:
http://www.pedigreequery.com/please+run
after his career on the flat, he became a timber racer. he's older (12yo), but sound and, from the photos I've seen, has quite a nice jump in him.
Thanks!

ETA - No conformation photos, but here's one flat and one o/f photo
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v692/tarheelmd07/?action=view&current=8211149-R4-017-7.jpg
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v692/tarheelmd07/?action=view&current=8211149-R1-015-6.jpg

Timex
Oct. 5, 2009, 12:41 AM
I've got several with similar breeding, and while it might just be them, and not the breeding so much, they're all even keeled, laid back kids that seem to accept new situations without a big fuss and are hhappy to come out and do whatever job you ask of them. 12 and sound, as far as you can tell? Sounds like there might be something there! Good luck!

lizajane09
Oct. 5, 2009, 06:56 AM
Fappiano's also the grandsire of my mare, and she LOVES being an event horse. Like Timex said, she's a really willing horse and a complete sweetheart in the barn. Fappiano is also the sire of Becky Holder's horse, Courageous Comet, if I recall correctly.

tarheelmd07
Oct. 5, 2009, 07:07 AM
I was excited to see Fappiano in the pedigree...but I don't know much about his dam's side.

He's never evented, but he has been hunting this year, so that's another plus (and between the hunting and the timber racing, we know he can jump!)! I'll see if I can get some photos up, as he's a cutie :)

Vitriolic
Oct. 5, 2009, 08:23 AM
http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/fc_display.cgi?userfile=P2413810076895

What did he do for 5 years between his flat career and timber try? Why did he only try the timber once? How long were his turf races? He looks to be a very nice guy. If you like everything about him, he might suit. I would not buy an upper level prospect without more stamina in the pedigree. That should be pretty irrelevant at lower levels.

Vitriolic
Oct. 5, 2009, 08:27 AM
Fappiano's also the grandsire of my mare, and she LOVES being an event horse. Like Timex said, she's a really willing horse and a complete sweetheart in the barn. Fappiano is also the sire of Becky Holder's horse, Courageous Comet, if I recall correctly.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/courageous+comet

Courageous Comet is by Comet Shine who is by Fappiano. However, both Comet Shine and his dam have stamina influences greater than Please Run. If you aren't going to the Olympics, it shouldn't matter, but I would not call the pedigree very similar. :)

deltawave
Oct. 5, 2009, 08:31 AM
The last I-don't-know-how-many winners of three- and four-star events have not even been full TB, so I'm not sure why having stamina in the pedigree matters at all. :) For a gelding, pedigree is pretty much irrelevant--there is very, very little (I would say virtually nothing, actually) that is "solid" in terms of predicting eventing success from the pedigree.

Since popular stallions have hundreds and hundreds of get, finding common grandsires and great-grandsires is not all that striking.

What I'm saying: phenotype matters WAY more than genotype. :yes: If it's a good horse, you like it, it's sound and well conformed, you are well on your way. The rest is a total crapshoot. :D