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JohnDeere
Oct. 2, 2009, 02:22 PM
Yeah Im pretty crazy. :D Tonge in cheek but serious question all the same.

Everyone knows some feed (corn sweet feed etc) makes a horse hotter. What would you feed if you wanted to say turn your WP horse into a jumper?

Bogie
Oct. 2, 2009, 02:29 PM
Hard to turn a WP horse into a jumper, no matter what you feed.:D

Most concentrates are rocket fuel for my TB but that kind of "hotness" is hard to channel. When he's hot he doesn't jump any better -- actually, he gets kinda dangerous

If you want your horse to have more energy or endurance, yes you can influence that with feed.

When I had an easy keeper I found that adding a ration balancer really helped him with his endurance. He was a hunt horse and he would run out of steam. I couldn't feed him enough concentrate for him to meet his nutritional needs without making him too fat. The added protein helped, too.

Feeds high in starch generally make a horse hot, but like I said, I wouldn't necessarily think that kind of energy is beneficial or preferable.

JohnDeere
Oct. 2, 2009, 02:37 PM
You get my drift...

This isnt a really easy keeper. The only easy keepers here are the cats & DH. :D Ive messed around with different things, added weight supps, etc. I think even when hes grown hes going to be somewhat lazy.

Did you add the RB to grain or in place of grain?

Guilherme
Oct. 2, 2009, 02:38 PM
Yeah Im pretty crazy. :D Tonge in cheek but serious question all the same.

Everyone knows some feed (corn sweet feed etc) makes a horse hotter. What would you feed if you wanted to say turn your WP horse into a jumper?

Money.

In that you'd go and buy a horse suitable for jumping. ;)

There's an old rule that says "horses for courses." While feed can affect how a horse performs within it's own physical limitations it can't alter the basic conformation or temperment of the animal.

G.

Mozart
Oct. 2, 2009, 02:43 PM
I have heard of people using Red Cell for that purpose. I don't know if it really works but they swear by it...

I have personally never been in a situation where I had to add some zing!

Crosswinds Rescue
Oct. 2, 2009, 02:53 PM
JD:
You mention "even when he's grown..." -- you might be surprised how he changes when he's matured physically, and also if he's a bit underweight, when he comes up to proper weight. Iv'e got an appendix gelding here right now (long story) who at 6 is finally maturing. he's grown 2+" at the withers this year, his rib cage has 'sprung', and he's developing topline. And, he's gone from eating 6lb of ultium 2x daily and constantly being about 75lb underweight to eating 2lb of strategy 2x daily and he could use a bit more exercise to keep him from surpassing an ideal weight....so, your boy may reach what you're seeking yet, when he's done growing.

We LOVE ultium for adding weight AND adding endurance. Purina's HQ in St Louis recommends it via our cert. nutritionist that helps us, and we've been extremely pleased, and thrilled not to be mixing 10 different concoctions to bring underweight horses back in a safe timeframe and manner.

PS: He's also gone from nose in the sky fusspot who tired easily to relatively level headed, has a very nice way of going, is coming round and starting to show some impulsion without constant pressure from his handler (ground or saddle).

We often see the nightmare of a newbie horse family who take in a starvation case "becuase he's so quiet and so sweet". And then, when the horse gets to about 90% body weight, suddenly his real personality begins to reappear and they are in over their heads. We had a saddlebred come in >200lb underweight and "nobody home". A year later he was the hottest most challenging to handle horse we've ever had here...and easily could've returned to the saddle bred show arena from which he'd come, if it weren't for a back injury.

JohnDeere
Oct. 2, 2009, 03:01 PM
Hes not underweight now but its take a lot to get him up to weight. Id like to see another 75 lbs on him personally to match my butt. :lol: Plus I like them a little fatter before winter.

I tried RC on advice of vet. It didnt seem to help much so I guess hes ok bloodwise.

JohnDeere
Oct. 2, 2009, 03:02 PM
Money.

In that you'd go and buy a horse suitable for jumping. ;)
G.

:lol::lol::lol:

mp
Oct. 2, 2009, 03:12 PM
What would you feed if you wanted to say turn your WP horse into a jumper?


Helium.

JohnDeere
Oct. 2, 2009, 04:08 PM
Some of them look like there full of helium!

Sparky Boy
Oct. 2, 2009, 04:20 PM
I just started adding oats to lazy one's diet. Half cup twice daily to start. It's been a week and I think I see a small difference, or it could be the cool weather :)

JohnDeere
Oct. 2, 2009, 04:22 PM
Oats are certainly easy to find/feed. We have sevral who are frisky due to cold weather to.

Sparky Boy
Oct. 2, 2009, 04:24 PM
Yes, that's why I started with oats. Cheap & Easy.

Could be the weather but I'll keep her on it for a while, see if the energy level is maintained.

Bogie
Oct. 2, 2009, 04:32 PM
I added it to grain. He was fed Strategy.

My current horse, who is hot, is on alfalfa pellets, a RB and oil for weight.

You get my drift...

This isnt a really easy keeper. The only easy keepers here are the cats & DH. :D Ive messed around with different things, added weight supps, etc. I think even when hes grown hes going to be somewhat lazy.

Did you add the RB to grain or in place of grain?