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Absolut Equestrian
Oct. 1, 2009, 05:38 PM
Someone forwarded me these links and I thought I would share. Jay Trump ridden by Tommy Smith won the race, the first American to do so.

I used to think the field for the Kentucky Derby was huge, and then I saw this :eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXuL3pUkSbE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVfsvoyUo7c

lizathenag
Oct. 1, 2009, 06:25 PM
47 entries!

foundationmare
Oct. 1, 2009, 06:59 PM
Holy crap! That was amazing! And an American horse across the pond to boot! Now I have to look up his pedigree! I think those horses are either very removed from the hot-house flowers we're breeding now or they are trained up the wazoo! It looked a bit like a free-for-all with plenty of riderless horses in the mix. Those jocks have brass ones.

Thanks for the post.

foundationmare
Oct. 1, 2009, 07:02 PM
He had 26 starts, 12 wins, 3 second, 1 third. Has Polynesian on his top side. And, if I remember correctly, he was approx. 8 y.o. when he won the Grand National (only the second American bred, American owned, American ridden winner of the GN). Very cool.

Bravestrom
Oct. 1, 2009, 07:40 PM
I couldn't stop laughing at the horse that was in the lead without a rider - thanks for posting this.

foundationmare
Oct. 1, 2009, 07:50 PM
Welllllll Prodromus, they are unencumbered by the weight of a rider! Usually they either win the race or get themselves horribly hurt getting hung up in reins or jumping the rail, or whatever they can muster to commit suicide!

I remember one race, many years ago, when a horse dropped the rider leaving the gate and the horse commenced running off in the opposite direction of the race. Race caller was frantic trying to get the attention of the riders in the race, e.g. "Riders, pull up, there is a loose horse on the track. Riders pull up!" It was insane. Don't know that the riders heard him. All ended well, but it was hairy for a while.

Absolut Equestrian
Oct. 1, 2009, 08:47 PM
There are two books about Tommy and Jay Trump's journey to the Grand National. I read this one (http://www.amazon.com/will-win-story-Tommy-Smith/dp/B0007DZY9M/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1254444254&sr=8-4) and really enjoyed it. Well worth a read!

twofatponies
Oct. 1, 2009, 09:28 PM
God bless her, but the Queen Mother gets a special prize for biggest blue bouffant hairdo!

Meredith Clark
Oct. 1, 2009, 10:23 PM
This is my favorite Grand National...

1956, Devon Loch was in the lead and bound to win until..... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXNVtxIxtP8)

lizathenag
Oct. 1, 2009, 11:15 PM
I believe Dick Francis was the jockey.

Heart's Journey
Oct. 2, 2009, 12:35 PM
I read the book many years ago, but what a thrill to get to see the actual race...

Lori
Oct. 2, 2009, 12:42 PM
Thanks for sharing! :)

WhiteCamry
Oct. 4, 2009, 07:33 PM
47 entries!
The upper limit these days is 40.

In the past they had as much as 66 which, I think, was in 1929.

WhiteCamry
Oct. 4, 2009, 07:44 PM
I couldn't stop laughing at the horse that was in the lead without a rider - thanks for posting this.
Never saw a steeplechase before, I take it?

Here's what a loose horse can do: from 1967 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0n--QhZQgI&).

VirginiaBred
Oct. 4, 2009, 07:44 PM
So cool!!! Thanks for posting!

WhiteCamry
Oct. 4, 2009, 07:52 PM
Someone forwarded me these links and I thought I would share. Jay Trump ridden by Tommy Smith won the race, the first American to do so.

I used to think the field for the Kentucky Derby was huge, and then I saw this :eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXuL3pUkSbE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVfsvoyUo7c
Jay Trump was one of the greatest North American steeplechasers ever. He won the Maryland Hunt Cup twice when his owner decided to send him to Europe for a year with the GN in mind. He then returned home to take the MHC a third time.

If he'd been Britain-based they'd readily link him with Arkle, Red Rum or Desert Orchid. Over there steeplechasing is on an equal par with flat-racing.

SkipChange
Oct. 4, 2009, 08:37 PM
I got to walk the course at Aintree this summer on a field trip for a study abroad program. We had a "guide" and drove along the course in a van and hopped out at the jumps to check them out. He showed us the stables and weighing room too (where we took turns weighing ourselves :lol:). It was pretty amazing, they gave us a DVD of several notable races and I had a great time watching them.

I lost my cell phone out on that course somewhere, ooops!!

Seven-up
Oct. 5, 2009, 03:29 AM
Never saw a steeplechase before, I take it?

Here's what a loose horse can do: from 1967 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0n--QhZQgI&).


Eeep!


At about 5:20, you can see a jockey running on foot down the rail. He's not trying to get out of the way, he looks like he's trying to finish the race on foot. What the hell is he doing?

Absolut Equestrian
Oct. 5, 2009, 09:54 AM
Eeep!


At about 5:20, you can see a jockey running on foot down the rail. He's not trying to get out of the way, he looks like he's trying to finish the race on foot. What the hell is he doing?


Maybe he was trying to catch his horse :lol:

Seven-up
Oct. 5, 2009, 08:38 PM
Maybe he was trying to catch his horse :lol:

I thought that as well. But unless someone up ahead is holding the horse, I think that's probably a lost cause.:lol: