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vineyridge
Sep. 30, 2009, 11:53 AM
Any of you ever had any of his?

From some comments on FOL about his descendants and from the fact that TKR has bred really nice moving sport TBs from that line, it would seem that they should make excellent eventing prospects.

LAZ
Sep. 30, 2009, 11:59 AM
Any of you ever had any of his?

From some comments on FOL about his descendants and from the fact that TKR has bred really nice moving sport TBs from that line, it would seem that they should make excellent eventing prospects.


That was a Darn That Alarm that ran at the upper levels a while back, I think he was from Canada.

Florida Fan
Sep. 30, 2009, 12:10 PM
Yes---they do! I have seen some that are eventing, their form is good, and they have scope and size. There are 3 broodmares by DTA in the Ocala mixed sale. I could never understand why the wb and sporthorse breeders have not jumped on him as a sire. He raced in Florida when I was racing there, and his trainer was a friend of ours, so I followed some of his produce. He often did not get the best mares, but definitely put his stamp on the babies. I raced several by his sire, Jigtime, they too had size and bone (and could run!) I personally did not race any by DTA, but there were quite a few that raced here in S. Fla.

Jealoushe
Sep. 30, 2009, 12:42 PM
Do you know any of the lines further back? I had an awesome event horse regd name Alarmingly, maybe he was from that line?

Coppers mom
Sep. 30, 2009, 01:39 PM
We have one in the barn that has him as a grandsire. I'm excited about her eventing debut, I think she'll be a lot of fun. She's nice enough to win the dressage, keen for the cross country, but careful enough to leave everything up in stadium.

Beam Me Up
Sep. 30, 2009, 02:36 PM
I had a horse by Heff, who shares a dam (Extra Alarm) with Darn that Alarm.
(Not sure what that is, a 2nd cousin?--my horse's grandmother was Darn that Alarm's mother).

He's Odysseus on the website on my sig line if you want to see him.
Anyway, he was one of the best jumpers I've known, and very smart (he always knew exactly where he was relative to the fence), brave, careful, a cool guy in so many ways, but a complete headcase. Very aggressive, combative, hot, and difficult.

I wouldn't put any of this on his grandmother though--he had an exceedingly rough life before me, and Heff's sire, Alydar, is known for very difficult sons and grandsons.

He was such an athletic horse and I always wished I could have channeled that scope and bravery somewhere productive, instead of just endless rebellion, but I decided he was not worth the time and money to compete, and too dangerous to rehome, so sadly he is my lawn ornament/occasional trail horse.

I think with a different "childhood" he'd have been an amazing event horse. If he had a full sib out there, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

DMK
Sep. 30, 2009, 03:39 PM
as long as he still the sire of darn tipalam, i'd have to give him the nod for horses that have a propensity to jump solid obstacles while going fast. ;)

vineyridge
Sep. 30, 2009, 03:47 PM
Do you know any of the lines further back? I had an awesome event horse regd name Alarmingly, maybe he was from that line?

If this is your guy, they are not related except distantly.
http://www.equineline.com/Free-5X-Pedigree.cfm?page_state=ORDER_AND_CONFIRM&reference_number=1069317&registry=T&horse_name=Alarmingly&dam_name=Blushing%20Alarm&foaling_year=1986&nicking_stats_indicator=Y

Jealoushe
Sep. 30, 2009, 03:58 PM
If this is your guy, they are not related except distantly.
http://www.equineline.com/Free-5X-Pedigree.cfm?page_state=ORDER_AND_CONFIRM&reference_number=1069317&registry=T&horse_name=Alarmingly&dam_name=Blushing%20Alarm&foaling_year=1986&nicking_stats_indicator=Y

oh man, that was him!! I can't beleive you found him!!

shawneeAcres
Sep. 30, 2009, 03:59 PM
we had an appendix QH mare who's dam was by DArn THat Alarm, the mare was not an eventer but probably would have made a good one she could go ALL DAY LONG and was FAST in spite of being very small.

vineyridge
Sep. 30, 2009, 04:02 PM
BTW, Pistols and Roses is a son of Darn That Alarm. I was just browsing his get and found this 2007 Florida filly: http://www.pedigreequery.com/smoken+rosie. She's gray and is tail female to Creswood Dottie. The rest of her pedigree isn't too shabby. Fanfreluche is the dam of Family Ties by Sir Ivor. Family Ties was the sire of two horses that ran at Burghley this year.

I wonder what she's like?

TBCollector
Sep. 30, 2009, 05:26 PM
Both Darn That Alarm and Pistols were two of the sweetest stallions I've ever been around...Pistols was actually quite a character and behaved more like a playful gelding. Darn That Alarm was BEE-yoo-tee-ful...
Oddly enough I was just talking about DTA today...the news of Kona Gold's death made me think of other horses that died tragically. DTA and several other stallions perished in a barn fire a few years ago.

vineyridge
Sep. 30, 2009, 06:16 PM
Pistols and Roses is now standing for 1k at W R Thoroughbreds in Utah. Quite a comedown from Florida for him. :(

PhoenixFarm
Sep. 30, 2009, 11:38 PM
I had a Heff son too! He was so beautiful, and talented, and not particularly difficult, except that he absolutely did not want to be an event horse.:lol: He HATED being outside, on natural footing. In a ring he was easy as pie and could jump 4'0 like nothing. Spectacular mover too. But he hated hacking, hated jumping solid/natural obstacles, hated water, ditches, and had only minimal tolerance for being turned out. Found him a home as a show hunter, and he excelled and was happy as pie. He was a gorgeous athletic creature though, absolutely drool worthy.

I worked for someone who had a Pistols and Roses son and he was lovely also. She was an upper level rider, so the fact he topped out at Intermediate was a little disappointing to her, but he was lovely, and ended up being an ammy's dream CCI* horse. He wasn't the most careful show jumper though--you needed to really give yourself a decent lead in the first two phases. He was also gorgeous though, just totally eye catching.

I thought I'd heard Darn That Alarm died in a fire? If not, and he's only standing for $1000, I'd strongly consider using him (though I'm not breeding this year). Lovely horses.

Edited to add: If you ever saw his jump racing son Darn Tipalarm run and jump, you'd have no question about his usefulness as an eventing sire. That horse was a monster, and just spectacular.

TBCollector
Sep. 30, 2009, 11:55 PM
Pistols and Roses is now standing for 1k at W R Thoroughbreds in Utah. Quite a comedown from Florida for him. :(

I'm glad you reminded me of that. I'm going to try to hook them up with Old Friends in Kentucky if they ever decide to stop breeding him.

JeanieClarke2141
Oct. 1, 2009, 08:54 AM
I bought a Darn That Alarm off the track in Ocala in early 2008 and sold him to another eventer (a junior). He's great - good brain (if a little fizzy), fun personality, athletic and willing. Also tall and jumps in very very good form. He's doing his 1st Training levels this fall.

the wiz
Oct. 1, 2009, 01:12 PM
Vineyridge, I have the full sister of the filly Smoken Rosie - Rosie D'on (2000).
I can tell you she is a LOVE! She wants to be with you, she calls to me whenever I come out the back door. She comes when you call her, (better than my dogs most of the time).
She's had some time off - had 3 big ankles when I got her (off CANTER), we gave her Adequan and rest for 1 year. Then I broke my shoulder, had to have surgery, etc, and she got more time off. But she's 100% now!!
I hope to get her into the hunt field: I have 2 other horses ready to hunt, but she is anxious to please and a blast to ride!

Fla Fan - I worked @ Big C, in Ocala, in the early 80's and I knew Jigtime. He was something !! Blake Kivet was the farm manager and the ONLY one who would handle him. I never thought I would own one of his offspring.
DTA might have been one of the babies I started -( they all had funny barn names.)
I watched the offspring of both these guys with great interest for years and was delighted when we found our Rose.

TBCollector
Oct. 1, 2009, 01:51 PM
Vineyridge, I have the full sister of the filly Smoken Rosie - Rosie D'on (2000).
I can tell you she is a LOVE! She wants to be with you, she calls to me whenever I come out the back door. She comes when you call her, (better than my dogs most of the time).
She's had some time off - had 3 big ankles when I got her (off CANTER), we gave her Adequan and rest for 1 year. Then I broke my shoulder, had to have surgery, etc, and she got more time off. But she's 100% now!!
I hope to get her into the hunt field: I have 2 other horses ready to hunt, but she is anxious to please and a blast to ride!

Fla Fan - I worked @ Big C, in Ocala, in the early 80's and I knew Jigtime. He was something !! Blake Kivet was the farm manager and the ONLY one who would handle him. I never thought I would own one of his offspring.
DTA might have been one of the babies I started -( they all had funny barn names.)
I watched the offspring of both these guys with great interest for years and was delighted when we found our Rose.

I have an old gelding whose damsire is Jig Time. So he was a tough customer? My guy was virtually un-handleable on the track! And he had a devastating bite...you had to be careful walking by his stall. He was an amazing racehorse though...ran til he was 10 and earned $1 million-plus. I wondered where the bad attitude came from since his father (Flying Continental) was pretty mild-mannered.

vineyridge
Oct. 1, 2009, 02:47 PM
That's one of the really great things about the Jig Time line. They seem to be unusually sound for this day and age, with huge numbers of starts. Darn Tipalarm had more than 85 starts and raced over fences for YEARS.

BladicusStables
Mar. 14, 2011, 09:34 PM
I have a 16 year old mare by Darn That Alarm, and I swear she could go any discipline you wanted, even upper level dressage. Don't have a pic but here is a video of her from last year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUJrBdkM7kY&feature=related

carasmom
Mar. 14, 2011, 11:29 PM
Here's my gelding, Good Boy George, grandsire Darn That Alarm. I got him last September. Quite the character but has a nice jump to him. Very bold and will jump anything without a question. :)

http://www.pedigreequery.com/index.php?query_type=horse&search_bar=horse&h=WILD+MIDNIGHT&g=5&p=0&f=1&l=

http://inlinethumb34.webshots.com/40865/2135738400102033487S425x425Q85.jpg (http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2135738400102033487hIrSoc)

tbsrule
Mar. 15, 2011, 11:51 AM
I have a Darn That Alarm son, he is 10. He is a character that's for sure but he will jump over the moon!

http://www.styxpix.com/Horses/Rocking-Horse-Winter-III2010/11321383_W568X#794837309_uEzFB-XL-LB
and
http://www.styxpix.com/Horses/Rocking-Horse-Winter-I-Horse/11127365_Coazq#781059160_3J4zD-L-LB

Too bad we cannot get anymore. Darn That Alarm died in a barn fire in 2003.

PhoenixFarm
Mar. 15, 2011, 12:10 PM
I had a horse by Heff, who shares a dam (Extra Alarm) with Darn that Alarm.
(Not sure what that is, a 2nd cousin?--my horse's grandmother was Darn that Alarm's mother).

He's Odysseus on the website on my sig line if you want to see him.
Anyway, he was one of the best jumpers I've known, and very smart (he always knew exactly where he was relative to the fence), brave, careful, a cool guy in so many ways, but a complete headcase. Very aggressive, combative, hot, and difficult.

I wouldn't put any of this on his grandmother though--he had an exceedingly rough life before me, and Heff's sire, Alydar, is known for very difficult sons and grandsons.

He was such an athletic horse and I always wished I could have channeled that scope and bravery somewhere productive, instead of just endless rebellion, but I decided he was not worth the time and money to compete, and too dangerous to rehome, so sadly he is my lawn ornament/occasional trail horse.

I think with a different "childhood" he'd have been an amazing event horse. If he had a full sib out there, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

I also had a Heff baby. Probably one of the most beautiful horses I've ever had--Alydar's liver color with lots of chrome, 16.3, spectacular mover, and jumped like Rox Dene. Just a spectacular animal, and he was actually very ridable and trainable . . . provided you were doing activites he enjoyed. In his case, he absolutely despised anything outside, including, but not limited to: going cross country, trail riding, being turned out in anything other than perfect conditions, or riding in an ungroomed arena.:winkgrin:

And when he said no, there was no way around it. He would simply start going backwards, and nothing was going to talk him out of it. He went backwards off a bank with me (at Denny's, natch), went backwards off a cliff and in to a stream, went backwards through a three board fence, went backwards in to a tractor shed and got cut on a bushhog blade--he would blindly go backwards, placing himself (and thus you) in great peril, rather than give in. In a ring, he was the easiest horse in the world, outside, one of the most dangerous.

I found him a lovely home doing hunters and dressage, with full disclosure, and they love him and are happy to not have to go outside either.

But every time I come across his picture, I sigh, and think what could have been, because GOD was he a looker, and riding him was like butter.

TKR
Mar. 15, 2011, 11:55 PM
Love, love, LOVE the DTA's and the Jig Time line. I have a mare by a full brother to DTA because he died in the barn fire before I could get my s**t together and ship a mare. So I shipped her to Texas and bred to Strong Performance. I think he might be the last or one of the last Jig Time sons standing and is probably not by now. He was in his 20's then. Jig Time was a great sporthorse type, as was Native Dancer and he consistently produced it. They seem to be very sound and athletic. I had a Jig Time daughter until she passed at 28. I still have her son, who turns 22 on Thursday and the mare I bred to Strong Performance was his daughter. Look at Wimbledon - he is o/o of DTA mare and is a wonderful type. I'd love to use him. Everytime someone comes out to my farm, the SP daughter is called "gorgeous", "beautiful", etc. Everyone loves her. She is a sweetheart -- representing 30 years of effort on my part as far as breeding, encompassing my foundation mare and stallion and bloodlines I wanted to incorporate. Need to sell the wb's I bred and get back to riding my Thoroughbreds, LOL! That's where my heart is. If my hands weren't tied on the breeding, I'd sure be breeding Ava and Nachie, their types and pedigrees sure work for me!
PennYG

Coppers mom
Mar. 16, 2011, 05:22 AM
Just wanted to update and say I've run into four that are related to DTA in one way or another. Every single one has been a stunner, with a to-die-for jump.


I have noticed that they're a little hit or miss in terms of soundness though? Two are off and on lame, one has chips, and the other is a bit young (and also unraced, so grain of salt on the other three) so we'll have to see.

onthebit
Mar. 17, 2011, 04:07 PM
We have a retiree by Darn that Alarm here. He is a really nice, athletic horse and a big guy as well, about 17.2 hands. He was hand picked by Rodney Jenkins off the track. You can see some pictures of him and read his whole story here: http://paradigmfarms.blogspot.com/2010/09/wiz.html