Foal terminology

[Foxtrot's]

It was on this forum just recently:

Mare A is Mare B's mother

Mare A and Mare B have offspring (by different sires)

What relation are the offspring to each other?

and:

If half brothers are foals out of same dam (different sires), what are foals by the same sire (different dams) described as?

Many thanx.

[Kyzteke]

It was on this forum just recently:

Mare A is Mare B's mother

Mare A and Mare B have offspring (by different sires)

What relation are the offspring to each other?

and:

If half brothers are foals out of same dam (different sires), what are foals by the same sire (different dams) described as?

Many thanx.

I've never heard of a "official" term to describe the relationship between Mare A's offspring and Mare B's offspring (especially if the offspring are by different sires) other than using dam/granddam. If they have different sires, then the only horse they have in common is Mare A so their "relationship" is no more than Woman A having a daughter (Woman B) who then has a child.

Mare B and Mare A's new foal are half-sibs, but that's it in terms of "terminology," at least as far as I know.

On the track, "half-sibs" & "full-sibs" always come from the dam, I assume because stallions have so many offspring. Full sibs must have identical sires AND dams.

So:
Foal Z & Q are both by Stallion A o/o Mare A. They are full sibs.
Foal R is by Stallion B o/o Mare A, making Foal R a half sib to Z & Q
Foal S is by Stallion A (or Stallion B...take your choice) o/o Mare C -- although this foal is GENETICALLY a half-sib to the others, they do not use the term "half-sibling".

Clear as mud:confused:

[Thomas_1]

Sounds like we're getting into "Kissing Cousins" territory ;)

[amdfarm]

It was on this forum just recently:

Mare A is Mare B's mother

Mare A and Mare B have offspring (by different sires)

What relation are the offspring to each other?

and:

If half brothers are foals out of same dam (different sires), what are foals by the same sire (different dams) described as?

Many thanx.

I just say that Mare A became a grandma, Mare B a mother. That's really it, as there's no term for that type of relationship that I know of, as Kyzteke mentioned in the human analogy.

Second half would be full siblings, yes. Same sire, same dam. I, too, only use the term full and half siblings when the dam is involved. A mare can only have one foal per year (if carrying her own, not ET or anything) and a stallion can have many.

[Foxtrot's]

There was a thread on this recently - just can't search it out. Somebody came up with the term.

Is there a term for a mother and daughter having siblings from same sires?

Now I've confused myself ...

[Kyzteke]

Is there a term for a mother and daughter having siblings from same sires?


Not that I've ever heard....

[Simkie]

If mom and daughter have foals by the same sire, I have heard the relationship between those foals described as 3/4 siblings.

[Janet]

If half brothers are foals out of same dam (different sires), what are foals by the same sire (different dams) described as?
"By the same sire"

[Foxtrot's]

THAT is what the other thread said - I was not able to remember it all by myself. Thanks!

At the breeder's show the other question came up: Kids by the same stallion are described as..? "by the same stallion" probably. Kids by the same mare are "half siblings."

Sounds like Pony Club Quiz questions.