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stolensilver
Sep. 23, 2009, 06:45 AM
I think this is even more Fantasy Breeding than the "which stallion" thread but, just for fun, if we were all billionaires which mares would you buy and who would you breed them to?

Lominka is mine, mine, mine! Although being a billionaire might not be enough money to afford her. :lol:

ticofuzzy
Sep. 23, 2009, 07:26 AM
Rabiola, Brentina, SPS Auguste......

VolteVT
Sep. 23, 2009, 07:46 AM
Rabiola in a heartbeat, followed by Marydell's EM Rotina. Also Passionata or her mother Poesie. Oh, wait, was I supposed to just pick one? Broodmares are like potato chips - you can't have just one!

cyndi
Sep. 23, 2009, 08:37 AM
Blue Hors Matine!

egontoast
Sep. 23, 2009, 08:58 AM
Sunrise or Nadine although unproven as broodmares :)

FriesianX
Sep. 23, 2009, 08:59 AM
Just ONE - if money is no object, I think I'll buy a few:lol: Brentina is high on the list - she has always looked so RIDEABLE. There are others who are fancier (and since money's no object, maybe I can buy one or two of them too), but her mind is what I desire;)

Maude
Sep. 23, 2009, 09:07 AM
I would buy Queen Rabiola although she'd never be for sale for love or money!

Mara
Sep. 23, 2009, 09:12 AM
Sapphire!

ticofuzzy
Sep. 23, 2009, 10:17 AM
Just ONE - if money is no object, I think I'll buy a few:lol: Brentina is high on the list - she has always looked so RIDEABLE. There are others who are fancier (and since money's no object, maybe I can buy one or two of them too), but her mind is what I desire;)

Yup, Brentina has BEEN THERE and DONE THAT!! She has the core of what it takes to be successful - rideability, strength, soundness, and a great brain. Brentina held her own on the international stage without being the fanciest horse out there. You can "modernize" her with the appropriate stallion. I think she is the epitome of a great mare!!

Joanne
Sep. 23, 2009, 10:38 AM
Wahajama

CenterlineGirl2
Sep. 23, 2009, 10:48 AM
LORETTA!

Kimberlee
Sep. 23, 2009, 10:54 AM
Sapphire!

Ditto

JER
Sep. 23, 2009, 11:30 AM
Headley Britannia.

Oh -- and if we're really talking 'no object', I would like to have the Aga Khan's super mare Zarkava.

Dressage_Diva333
Sep. 23, 2009, 02:14 PM
Oh boy... well, I would have loved to have Anka, but she's long gone... also SPS Auguste. Poetin would also be high on the list if she were still alive.

But I'd take two of the mares out of the full sister to Fabuleux, SPS Floria Tosca: SPS Ananova (by Alabaster), and SPC Donnanova (by Don Crusador). Lovely damline there, and those are fabulous young mares.

Others would be Brentina, Matine, Sunrise, and Wahajama.

stolensilver
Sep. 23, 2009, 02:21 PM
I'm really surprised how many people on here are choosing mares known as competition mares rather than mares known for being broodmares. Wouldn't you really rather have a proven stallion-mother in your herd rather than an Olympic athlete whose ability to pass on her qualities are not yet proven?

BTW who is Rabiola? I've Googled her and found a very beautiful mare who has won at Dressage at Devon but can't find any record of her offspring. Who are they? What have they achieved?

Iron Horse Farm
Sep. 23, 2009, 02:27 PM
LORETTA!

Exactly!!!:)

Mara
Sep. 23, 2009, 05:52 PM
If I could pick two, Rachel Alexandra would be the other!

Maryanne Nicpon
Sep. 23, 2009, 06:40 PM
ROCHER !!!!

punky
Sep. 23, 2009, 06:41 PM
Two trak mares come to mind:
Suleiken IV
SPSMiami

JER
Sep. 23, 2009, 07:02 PM
I'm really surprised how many people on here are choosing mares known as competition mares rather than mares known for being broodmares. Wouldn't you really rather have a proven stallion-mother in your herd rather than an Olympic athlete whose ability to pass on her qualities are not yet proven?

Not always. I think the pedigree of the mare counts for something. If you have an outstanding athlete from a family of outstanding athletes, you have the best of both worlds.

Speaking to my own choices: Headley Britannia is by Jumbo out of a mare that produced other top-class eventers. No reason to think HB won't be passing on the traits that made her a great horse -- she comes from a very good line of eventers and it's a different line than I have with my little band of mares.

And Zarkava is the product of many generations of the Aga Khan's breeding program. He called her the 'apogee' of his program. Given the quality of his mares, that's saying a lot. And I wouldn't bet against her genes -- she comes from a line of mares that run well and pass on those traits, so why wouldn't she do the same?

ticofuzzy
Sep. 24, 2009, 07:36 AM
I'm really surprised how many people on here are choosing mares known as competition mares rather than mares known for being broodmares. Wouldn't you really rather have a proven stallion-mother in your herd rather than an Olympic athlete whose ability to pass on her qualities are not yet proven?


I chose Brentina because I feel that the inherent qualities that make her so special are things that could easily be passed on to the next generation, and if the appropriate stallion were chosen, you could potentially improve upon her.
Brentina is not a fluke of nature. Her full brother competed on the international stage as well.
Also, from a selling point - I don't think you would have ANY trouble selling foals out of Brentina!! I'd bet you'd have a waiting list a mile long. However, if you could afford Brentina, you probably wouldn't have to think about trivial things like selling your babies :)

Summit Springs Farm
Sep. 24, 2009, 07:55 AM
Blue Hors Matine!

DITTO!!!! LOVE HER

FriesianX
Sep. 24, 2009, 08:03 AM
Not always. I think the pedigree of the mare counts for something. If you have an outstanding athlete from a family of outstanding athletes, you have the best of both worlds.



I agree - Brentina has great performance bloodlines. I think once you see a few horses with similar bloodlines doing so well in the competition ring, it is worth considering those bloodlines for breeding. PLUS, heck, wouldn't it be fun to just hop on her once in a while and play around a bit?

stolensilver
Sep. 24, 2009, 08:17 AM
I guess we'll just have to agree about having different views on this. If I was offered a choice between Brentina or Totilas' dam I would not choose Brentina. :) And while there probably is a queue for Brentina babies there is an even longer queue for full siblings to Totilas.

FriesianX
Sep. 24, 2009, 08:22 AM
I guess we'll just have to agree about having different views on this. If I was offered a choice between Brentina or Totilas' dam I would not choose Brentina. :) And while there probably is a queue for Brentina babies there is an even longer queue for full siblings to Totilas.

Money's no object, I can buy both:lol::lol::lol: And Rocher:yes:

sniplover
Sep. 24, 2009, 08:38 AM
Among others...

Julie Whitfield in GA has this fabulous Walt Disney mare, Wattfee, that has continually produced site champions at AHS and I think it would just be awesome to watch her graze in the field of the large farm I'd have to buy just for her... and all of her beautiful progeny.

If Julie won't part with her, maybe I can get her gorgeous filly by Fidertanz that I met last year that I loved (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24994333@N03/2924473886/) or perhaps this year's Rotspon filly..

okggo
Sep. 24, 2009, 10:34 AM
If money (and reality) were no object (aka the horse was still alive) I'd love to have Terlingua

grayarabpony
Sep. 24, 2009, 10:37 AM
For dressage, I'd like to see Weltamsel.

ticofuzzy
Sep. 24, 2009, 10:38 AM
I guess we'll just have to agree about having different views on this. If I was offered a choice between Brentina or Totilas' dam I would not choose Brentina. :) And while there probably is a queue for Brentina babies there is an even longer queue for full siblings to Totilas.

One of the things I like about Brentina is that she has stood the test of time soundness-wise. While Totilas is an outstanding individual and I am thoroughly enamored with him, it is up in the air whether he will stay sound for the long haul with his extreme movement. A good amount of these horses with this ultra-extravagent movement do not last long term in the dressage arena (think Matine, Poetin, etc....). NOT saying Totilas won't stay sound, but Brentina has already proven that she can and Totilas hasn't yet.....

Best View
Sep. 24, 2009, 10:43 AM
RABIOLA

This is the most beautiful mare! She is amazing...

stolensilver
Sep. 24, 2009, 11:02 AM
Please can someone put me out of my misery concerning Rabiola. What offspring has she had? What are they doing?

City Ponies
Sep. 24, 2009, 11:27 AM
OK, so no one probably knows her, but I would by GOV mare Hallelujah. I've had the pleasure of working and being around here for a while now. Rode her a few times and along with her fantastic movement and conformation she is the sweetest mare I've ever known. Wish I had the 5-figure budget to buy her now.

Oh and Rachel Alexandra too :)

cloudyandcallie
Sep. 24, 2009, 11:31 AM
Weihaiwej (I've loved her since she won WEG and hope she is still alive in Italy) and, since money is no object
Poesie

FMulder
Sep. 24, 2009, 11:44 AM
If money were no object, I'd clone Tanagra.

Joanne
Sep. 24, 2009, 11:44 AM
OK, so no one probably knows her, but I would by GOV mare Hallelujah. I've had the pleasure of working and being around here for a while now. Rode her a few times and along with her fantastic movement and conformation she is the sweetest mare I've ever known. Wish I had the 5-figure budget to buy her now.

Oh and Rachel Alexandra too :)

I saw Hallelujah when she did her GOV inspection at Yancey Farms. Gorgeous mare. The German judges were all excited when she entered the ring. I was standing behind them and wished I could have heard what they were saying to each other.

Mallrat7777
Sep. 24, 2009, 12:19 PM
Touch of Class and Sapphire :D

DownYonder
Sep. 24, 2009, 12:23 PM
I would like to have Judy Yancey's Rubinstein daughter, Reina H - dam of newly licensed stallion Sirringo, SE USDF BC filly and young horse champion Finale, and granddam of Qredit (Perfect Qredit), the newly crowned Devon Champion Colt, Champion Young Horse, and Grand Champion. :yes:

And while I am dreaming, I would like to have Royal Rubina (full sister to Rohdiamant and Royal Diamond). And Loretta (dam of Sandro Hit, Diamond Hit, and Royal Hit). ;)

krfarms
Sep. 24, 2009, 12:32 PM
Definitely Rachael Alexander, her babies at the yearling sales would bring well over a million or 2, then I could buy all the WB mares I wanted!!!! He He!!

Forte
Sep. 24, 2009, 07:55 PM
Rumirell

paintjumper
Sep. 25, 2009, 01:04 PM
Rabiola, an 11-year old KWPN (the Royal Warmblood Studbook of the Netherlands) mare owned by Iron Spring Farm, who clinched the Mare Championship for the third year in a row with the unbelievable score of 94.00% this year at Devon. Bred in Holland by P. Crum,
by Metall out of Fabiola. Go to ISF's website and "search" her name, thay have a page for her.

CrossWinds81
Sep. 25, 2009, 01:22 PM
VDL Oranta...I LOVE Chris Kappler's mare...she has such a loving personality too...just lovely through and through...and the perfect size for all these modern type stallions too. ;)

Hmmm...yep def like potato chips...I think I'll take Narcotique de Muze as well!

Marion Dresel-O`Connor
Sep. 25, 2009, 04:52 PM
One of the nicest mares and also one of the best producing mares ever is EM Hochkarat. http://www.cocolallacreeksporthorses.com/hochkarat.html
3 of her foals, Wolkenkarat, Rabenschwarz and Rio Rio are on this years USDF HOY lists ( preliminary standings) under saddle and in hand.
This mare has everything it takes to be a top top top dressage horse, the heart, the mind, the ability. She just can`t help her rider, oh well!
The oldest filly is 4 years old and number 3 for the 4 year old USEF test in the US (unofficially), the 3 year old filly is leading the Materiale division.

1horseRachel
Sep. 25, 2009, 04:55 PM
VDL Oranta, Brentina and Sapphire or any Art Deco offspring

Kinsella
Sep. 25, 2009, 07:24 PM
If money (and reality) were no object (aka the horse was still alive) I'd love to have Terlingua
ding! ding! ding! Absolutely!!!

Bellfleur
Sep. 25, 2009, 08:43 PM
I have the next best thing to Loretta.

Her first daughter (who is in foal to Furst Romancier!) Kalimera. At 18 she was just the mature horse champion at the recent German Oldenburg Verband Show in MD.

I am also lucky enough to have the top international GP mare Fancy Free. In foal for another Florestan foal in 2010!!

So if I GOT so LUCKY as to be able to add another ONE it would be Blue Hors Matine.

Cavesson
Sep. 25, 2009, 10:18 PM
WOO I THOUGHT THIS WAS THE IF YOU COULD BREED TO ANY STALLION THREAD!!

I'll play!
Hickstead!
stud fee like $5,500
Love him what a horse! What heart!
If his offspring had have his tallent they would be amazing!

winsmorefarm
Sep. 25, 2009, 11:27 PM
If money were no object?? I'd buy them all! :winkgrin:

Fairview Horse Center
Sep. 26, 2009, 10:56 AM
No question, I would buy Luna! http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/luna21 Mother of Salinero and Seven Up!

Rabiola is high on my list too, and I have seen several of her babies. I also love Pat Limage's mare Georgey Girl, and Rebecca Yount's mare Bo Peep!

Walnut Farm
Sep. 26, 2009, 11:57 AM
Wahajama

me too!!

Schiffon
Sep. 26, 2009, 02:36 PM
Gipsy Lady
Full sister to approved stallion Gipsy King
Dam of Grafenstolz
Dam of Gipsy Rose who is dam of approved stallion Grand Passion and German national champion Trakehner mare Gipsy Flower

I'm with Stolensilver that I'd go for a mare who has already produced from a line that has multiple successful producers.

If not Gipsy Lady, I'd take any other broodmares owned by the Heinen's. As breeders of the above plus Michaelangelo, Monteverdi, Kennedy, and at least 3 other approved stallions, they know what they are doing and my personal taste seems to be similar.

DeucesWild11
Sep. 26, 2009, 02:43 PM
Does noone remember Rox Dene??? Or Strapless??? I would take EITHER in a heartbeat!!!! :)

zara001
Sep. 26, 2009, 06:32 PM
Wow how nice to see a picture of salinero's mom! When i met Anky she said that apart from Seven up and Salinero the rest of the full siblings were small and chesnut, now i see why!
I would most definately take Lominka, I enquired about using Totilas on my Ferro mare 3 years ago after seeing him in Holland, just knew he was going to be a star. That dam line is just fantastic at producing sport horses.
I have His Highness half sister, (her sire Fabriano) feel very blessed, can't wait to see what she produces.

Fred
Sep. 28, 2009, 12:01 PM
If money were no object, as others have said, there are quite a few I'd buy.

But for now, I'll just pick three:

Headley Brittania
Sapphire
Rachel Alexandra

All of them would fit very nicely into my breeding program, and their stalls are ready! ;)

Barb Gualco
Oct. 3, 2009, 03:53 PM
This is a great question and one I asked myself every time I either bought a broodmare OR committed one of my showmares to the breeding program....the first mare I ever bred was the best Thoroughbred mare I ever owned... a kennedy road xx daughter...and thank goodness we have several of her daughters that are also in the program...but for warmblood broodmare stock, the best mare I ever bought was Susie, Spartan's full blooded sister...and as all the jumper breeders and riders know, Spartan is the sire of Stakkato, the 2007 Stallion of the Year in Germany...Susie has produced phenomenal offspring and she gave us another super foal this year with Sir Caletto...and we have 3 of her daughters in the program too...that bloodline has never dissappointed us, ever...beyond Susie it would have to be an elite Diamont mothterline and that line was crossed with Pointmaker (Pik Bube) and then an elite Singular Joter mare....we started the breeding program with big jumping bloodlines and then when Sir Caletto was offered for sale, he was pedigree and confirmation wise, a perfect fit...and then of course we saw the temperament of him and what we passed along...superior dispositions and great personalities coupled with athleticism...mares matter and I can only continue to promote that to our US competitors when they go to buy American!

broughton_sporthorses
Oct. 3, 2009, 11:56 PM
Ratina Z
Sapphire
Pialotta
Castle Forbes Libertina

vineyridge
Oct. 4, 2009, 10:16 AM
Famm--dam of Shutterfly and other jumpers.
If the TB mare can be dead, I'd want Rose Leaves and Bonne Cause and Winter Rose. Object is to bring back the fantastic TB jumpers of the USET glory days.
Opaline des Pins who may or may not be dead but is definitely too old to breed at this point.
Welton Gazelle

But this is all fantasy, right? So in my heart these great mares are still out there to be had and to be bred.