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Plumcreek
Sep. 22, 2009, 11:53 PM
For those who rent their living quarters, and would like to be near your horse, what would you think of this situation if it were located in your area and was affordable:

Rental apartments or townhouses (ones you would like, I assume). Behind each building is a center aisle barn. One side of aisle has 12' X 14' stalls with 30' runs off each. Other side of aisle has 12' X 26' individual garage spaces with door to aisle, tack closet and area for your shavings bales that you can purchase on site. You could park your vehicle inside the garage or outside elsewhere. You rent the whole slice - stall/run, aisle area and garage in addition to apartment/townhome rent.

You clean/bed your own stall and feed your own grain, stall has auto water. Manager feeds hay to all horses at same time morning and evening to your specifications on stall chart (choice of hay). Leaves an extra flake at night for bed check snack.

You do all else including turn out to larger pens, have use of outdoor and indoor arena, no pasture. Pretty much like a boarding barn except you live there on a rental basis (you can move out if unhappy).

This concept has generated some interest, and I would like to hear if it would appeal to you? For these purposes, assume all involved are competent and prices are fair. Thanks!

GoForAGallop
Sep. 23, 2009, 07:34 AM
Things that popped up to me:

1) Is the location near jobs?
2) What happens if I have TWO horses? Are there x amount of stalls more than apartments? (Ten stalls, eight apartments) so that that's an option?
3) What happens if my horse dies? Or moves away for a few months for training? Is there an option to "save" the stall space at a discounted rate? Will I have to keep paying full rate? Will I "lose" it to another renter with two horses, and not be able to get it back? That then defeats the purpose of the whole apartment setup...
4) Is the manager a "supreme" power who's going to be able to set down some rules/tell someone to get their flippin' horse's feet done already/etc?
5) Is there an on-site trainer? Am I allowed to bring in an outside trainer? What sort of insurance is that going to require, for any of the three parties?
6) What happens if I go on vacation? Can I pay the manager to cover for me? What if I'm just lazy and pay the manager to cover for me all the time, making it a full board situation? Is that allowed or even an option?

Thoughts:
1) Might want to have the manager feed grain too, which is provided by the owner. That way everyone is on a schedule/monitered/you don't have to worry about someone sleeping in or just not deciding to feed their horse that day.

Plumcreek
Sep. 23, 2009, 12:26 PM
Thanks for thoutful reply. This is a concept that presented itself and seems doable to me. I know there is (was?) apartments with stalls near Los Angeles Eq Center and Griffith Park, but I had heard that they had no runs/turnout of any kind, and too near Disney, so average horse owner priced out.

Things that popped up to me:

1) Is the location near jobs?
Yes, in suburban metro areas as part of larger housing development, in areas next to riding trails (otherwise there would be pastures).

2) What happens if I have TWO horses? Are there x amount of stalls more than apartments? (Ten stalls, eight apartments) so that that's an option?
Sure, there could be extra stalls.

3) What happens if my horse dies? Or moves away for a few months for training? Is there an option to "save" the stall space at a discounted rate? Will I have to keep paying full rate? Will I "lose" it to another renter with two horses, and not be able to get it back? That then defeats the purpose of the whole apartment setup...
In my thinking, you could sub-lease it out or pay reduced rate to hold stall.

4) Is the manager a "supreme" power who's going to be able to set down some rules/tell someone to get their flippin' horse's feet done already/etc?
This is something that is a draw-back of this situation. Manager could strongly suggest farrier attention, but cannot evict someone out of their apartment for moderate horse hoof neglect, neglect would have to be extreme. There would be written contract requiring signature re standards of horse care/health. That is why auto waterers and hay fed by mgmt - assured minimum level of horse care. Other residents would have to MYOB a lot. Personally, I would have a hard time with that, but I would have to weigh the advantages of having my horse 'at home' with me. Reason why wome of us work ourselves into the ground to have out own farmette.

5) Is there an on-site trainer? Am I allowed to bring in an outside trainer? What sort of insurance is that going to require, for any of the three parties?
Outside trainers could come as a boarding barn w/o trainer, I would think. No onsite trainer. Actually, the situation that sparked this thread dis within riding distance to several types of trainer barns.

6) What happens if I go on vacation? Can I pay the manager to cover for me? What if I'm just lazy and pay the manager to cover for me all the time, making it a full board situation? Is that allowed or even an option?
Yes.

Thoughts:
1) Might want to have the manager feed grain too, which is provided by the owner. That way everyone is on a schedule/monitered/you don't have to worry about someone sleeping in or just not deciding to feed their horse that day.
That would cost more in labor. Horses are fed hay at same time to prevent the un-fed horse watching other horses eat situation.