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faraway46
Sep. 18, 2009, 04:51 PM
This year I started a young jumper prospect called Quantas. This is her pedigree:
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/adc+quantas+lv+z

I have posted about her here before and showed her first show:
http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=206531

Here are her four latest pics from the last show of the Argentine Young Jumper Championships:
http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2912914130049866518YwEwna
http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2840987270049866518OTBuIM
http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2701144910049866518UEyTkw
http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2670021320049866518karHwW


She's turning 5 soon, has a 10mo training on her and here are her last shows:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhZSLu9hPlY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoFODwybFuQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb25m-prfkY

Opinions and critique on progress wanted! Thanks!
Viv

JinxyFish313
Sep. 18, 2009, 05:24 PM
Don't have time to watch the videos right now, but your photos are nice. Seems as if you're hitting her in the mouth pretty hard despite your release.

tidy rabbit
Sep. 18, 2009, 05:34 PM
Seems as if you're hitting her in the mouth pretty hard despite your release.


Bahhhhhahhahaaa. Humbug. I whole heartedly disagree.

Nice horse. Nice smooth trips. Nice rider.

Good luck with this one, she looks like a nice straightforward ride. :)

faraway46
Sep. 18, 2009, 05:44 PM
Bahhhhhahhahaaa. Humbug. I whole heartedly disagree.

Nice horse. Nice smooth trips. Nice rider.

Good luck with this one, she looks like a nice straightforward ride. :)

Thanks and congrats on your paint warmblood. I saw him in your recent post and he is eyecandy!!! Nice jumping form too!
I've always wanted a colorful warmblood, but not much of that here in Argentina. I still have hopes that one day I will find a diamond in the rough in some field with a gaucho riding him and complaining about how tall his horse is and his canter is too long...come to momma! ;)

faraway46
Sep. 18, 2009, 05:45 PM
Don't have time to watch the videos right now, but your photos are nice. Seems as if you're hitting her in the mouth pretty hard despite your release.

Thanks for the output. I will see if I can catch what you see in the videos. If you get a chance to see them, post your opinions.

imapepper
Sep. 18, 2009, 05:51 PM
Bahhhhhahhahaaa. Humbug. I whole heartedly disagree.

Nice horse. Nice smooth trips. Nice rider.

Good luck with this one, she looks like a nice straightforward ride. :)

Agree that she is not hitting the mare in the mouth :)

And agree with nice horse/nice rider. Straightforward?....well definately forward ;)

I think she is coming along great.....and when she learns to be a little more efficient ;) she will be fabulous. It looks like she is jumping the bejesus out of a couple of those and isn't quite sure where all her parts are going :eek: as long as they don't touch the jump :winkgrin: It also looks like she wants to get a bit quick. Nice tactful ride on a greenie that looks like she wants to be a big overachiever. Good job on her :)

JinxyFish313
Sep. 18, 2009, 05:55 PM
In 2nd and 4th photos the jaw looks clenched, thats usually a sign that you're pulling on the mouth. In the last photo you can see the bit pulled hard enough to the left that its sticking out the side of the horse's mouth. That's why I mentioned it, not trying to be scroogish :dunno:

Holyhorseshoes
Sep. 18, 2009, 05:59 PM
I love her! She looks like she just needs more time/experience jumping, which is completely understandable as a 4 year old!

Hauwse
Sep. 18, 2009, 06:20 PM
He looks like a very capable, honest mare with tons of potential for the jumpers.

I would make only one suggestion, and please don't take it as a negative, as I think you are a very capable riders as well with lots of potential.

Now if she were my horse I would try to ride her a little less like a jumper right now. By that I mean focus on her balance, pace and impulsion exclusively, don't worry so much about finding the spot let her figure it a little more on her own. Check less, get her balanced, find the right pace and impulsion for the course, and let her hunt around the course with as little intervention from you as possible.

Now I say this because clearly the mare has absolutely no problem with the courses she is jumping now, but what I do see is that she is very occupied listening to what you are asking her and in the one video she got a little confused about what you wanted coming off the corner, her ears were bouncing from channel to channel trying to lock in on what you wanted, and in front of the fence I do not see her completely locked in she is constantly looking for an answer from you.

Her being engaged in the conversation is a great thing, but it has to be a two way street, and as the courses get more challenging to her she will need to think for herself, and you will have to trust her as well.

This going to do a couple things it is going to increase her confidence, and it is going to help her to learn about impulsion on her own.

She is a nice mare and you are doinga great job with her, keep up the good work!

zahena
Sep. 18, 2009, 06:35 PM
I think she's very adorable. Super careful. She does seem to want to be quick but listens enough to you to come back to you. I think that as she gets some mileage she's going to make an even nicer mount and move up well through the levels!

faraway46
Sep. 18, 2009, 06:45 PM
He looks like a very capable, honest mare with tons of potential for the jumpers.

I would make only one suggestion, and please don't take it as a negative, as I think you are a very capable riders as well with lots of potential.

Now if she were my horse I would try to ride her a little less like a jumper right now. By that I mean focus on her balance, pace and impulsion exclusively, don't worry so much about finding the spot let her figure it a little more on her own. Check less, get her balanced, find the right pace and impulsion for the course, and let her hunt around the course with as little intervention from you as possible.

Now I say this because clearly the mare has absolutely no problem with the courses she is jumping now, but what I do see is that she is very occupied listening to what you are asking her and in the one video she got a little confused about what you wanted coming off the corner, her ears were bouncing from channel to channel trying to lock in on what you wanted, and in front of the fence I do not see her completely locked in she is constantly looking for an answer from you.

Her being engaged in the conversation is a great thing, but it has to be a two way street, and as the courses get more challenging to her she will need to think for herself, and you will have to trust her as well.

This going to do a couple things it is going to increase her confidence, and it is going to help her to learn about impulsion on her own.

She is a nice mare and you are doinga great job with her, keep up the good work!

I agree. She is a whirlwind type, likes speed over pace. I have to tone her anxiety down (not that its a bad anxiety, but the curious "what's next?" type). I was guessing that with more shows on her, the questioning will tone down and my faith will grow to let her pace through. The last video is her 5th show out. The photos are from her 6th show (I am uploading the video). She is in a Young Jumper Championship where you have to get 8 clears out of 11 shows to reach the finals (we have 6 so far...and four more shows to go). Sometimes one gets so focused on getting a clear to reach the finals that you try to do everything...;) . I must move out of her way at times and let her do her job. You are absolutely right.
I have been working on what you said for the past month and as soon as I upload the last show, I will PM it to you so you can give me your opinion.
Thanks.

Gry2Yng
Sep. 18, 2009, 07:07 PM
What a lovely post hauwse.

jumpingmaya
Sep. 18, 2009, 08:26 PM
What a lovely post hauwse.

Agreed 100%... definitely the kind of response I'd want posting on here for advice :yes:
Very well said and explained!!!

I like the mare a lot! She is green (obviously) but definitely shows some wonderful talent- she's got a lot of heart also... and the rider is doing a great job with the horse! :D

spmoonie
Sep. 18, 2009, 09:44 PM
What a lovely post hauwse.

ditto. Very informative post. :yes::)

I think the mare is lovely! She is coming along nicely! She is quite scopey.

faraway46
Sep. 20, 2009, 07:54 PM
...in th Young Jumper Championships.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwhMokJQX6Y

Tell me what you think.
Thanks.
Viv