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Sparkling_Sunset
Sep. 4, 2009, 07:25 AM
I'm in the market for a pair of full seats. I like the Pikeur/Arista/Cavallo styling, with the front zip-slash pocket, but those are WAY out of my budget. I have tried TWO pairs of Tuff Rider Kashmere breeches, and all I have to say is NO MORE TUFF RIDERS! The fit is totally off, and they LOOK cheap when you're wearing them. My dad said so, and he's not even very involved with dressage! (And, well, yeah, he WAS the one that paid for them, not me:) )

I am now thinking of either Dover's Riding Sport Full-Seats (can't make up my mind between the regular or low-rise, though), or Ovation's Micro/Euroweave (which is better?) DX Superstick. I want white -- I know, not the most practical for schooling, but I like the look:) I am 5'2, about, uh, 97 pounds, and wear a size 4-6 in skirts and jeans. I also still fit into kid's size 16 jeans/khaki's, but not kid's breeches. (And no kid's breeches have the style I want anyhow) So, can anyone tell me which of the above is better, and perhaps know what size I'd take? I have some old Devon-Aire KP's that are a 26 and fit; I tried on a pair of Pikeur Lugana's at my local tack shop in a 24 that fit perfectly, and I originally ordered a pair of TR Kashmere's in a 28 that were ridiculously large around the waist. (And the pair I just ordered in the TR's is a 24 that I can BARELY squeeze into)

So, anyone that has the Dover Riding Sport's and/or the Ovation's, let me know how the fit is (like if they run big/small, fall apart, etc.) I am more of a fan of cotton than synthetics-- I have a pair of Kerrits kid's bootcut ribbed riding tights (which are nylon) that I absolutely hate because they are like wearing nothing at all-- every like breeze and puff of wind comes right through them, AND they make me sweat. And don't get me started on the evils of polyester! :)

Wayside
Sep. 4, 2009, 09:41 AM
I'm no help as far as sizing goes, since I have HUGE hips, and always have to order the "shapely" breeches, even back in the day when I could wear a 28 :lol:

But I can say that the Ovations I have have been very comfortable and are holding up well, and I also really like my Cotton Naturals. They're decently thick, but very breathable.

Twigster
Sep. 4, 2009, 10:46 AM
I have the Riding sport ones, and they are quite nice for the price. One thing however (since your shorter, like me) the regular rise ones I bought are very high-waisted. Like granny-panties/mom-jeans high waisted. But that only bugs me on the ground, when I am in the saddle they feel great.

HFSH
Sep. 4, 2009, 11:29 AM
I love my FITS.

scubed
Sep. 4, 2009, 04:54 PM
If you really love them, better price on the Pikeur Luganas here: http://www.amirashop.co.uk/acatalog/Pikeur_Lugana.html

TBDQ0328
Sep. 4, 2009, 05:57 PM
There is a lady on ebay who sells Pikeurs, Cavallos, etc for cheaper (usually about $100 a pair + shipping) - her ebay store is Classic Dressage Marabella and her user name is eldragonverde2003. She's very nice to deal with, usually if you send her your size, she'll give you a list of everything she has.
I also like Dover's Riding Sport Aquator breeches - they're a bit thicker then the regular riding sport breeches and hold up really well. They make both a high waistband and a regular waist band version.

Donkey
Sep. 4, 2009, 06:02 PM
I thought he neddy breeches http://www.neddys.com/ fit like pikeurs but the full seat material is slightly thicker.

InsideLeg2OutsideRein
Sep. 4, 2009, 06:07 PM
If you don't like a "cheap" look I recommend staying away from the Riding Sports. I promptly returned the pair I ordered. It also was very uncomofortable in the private region, it had a wad of frabic bunched up there.
I haven't tried the Ovations, but from reviews that I've read about other Ovation products, and I have their stirrup leathers, it's not at the highest end of quality either. But then again neither is their price.

I love my Pikeur Luganas (bought in Germany for much less $$$), and I too wear them in a size smaller than other breeches. My other nice ones are a pair of John Fields that I had gotten on sale. Those come true to size.

JLR1
Sep. 4, 2009, 10:10 PM
Calevo.com based in Germany has great prices as well!

eponacelt
Sep. 5, 2009, 08:10 AM
I love my Goode Rider breeches. Pricewise they are midway between the Riding Sport/Ovations (which I loathe) and Pikeurs.

Surviving the Dramas
Sep. 6, 2009, 06:39 AM
Equetech breeches. Have just tried mine today after an acquaintance told me that she was throwing out her Cavellos in exchange for these (at half the price!!). I was in the hunt for another pair so thought I would give them a go...

The sticky bums were tested well and truly today, and they did their job amazingly - I would have been off had I been in my non-full seats!:uhoh:

Great stretch to them, a lot more comfortable than my more expensive competition jods, and they looked amazing too! Love the high waist with the belt look - they fit under my tails beautifully, and my short coat as well.

Obviously haven't tested their durability, but aforementioned acquaintance has and said they are holding up really well

Link: http://www.equetech.com/products.asp?product=Equetech%20High%20Waist%20Bre eches&id=35&seasons=5&gender=47&collection=47&season=SPRING%20/%20SUMMER&alldetails=yes Equetech High Waisted Breeches

Bogey2
Sep. 6, 2009, 07:26 AM
Try the Goode Rider low rise...and they run a tad small. They were not for me because I need a bit more waist but overall I thought they were a nice breech.

Marieke
Sep. 7, 2009, 09:00 AM
I've always ridden in Horka, and they are pretty reasonably priced, middle of the road, with better quality.

ArenaBallerina
Sep. 7, 2009, 10:40 AM
I have a pair of Riding Sport breeches which I have ridden in about 20 times. They are the low rise cut, but they hit me at an odd spot. They look a little worn out because the color has slightly faded, and the fabric doesn't look as crisp as when I first got them. The quality isn't absolutely horrible, but certainly not the best.

HollysHobbies
Sep. 8, 2009, 03:10 PM
I just bought a pair of highline outfitters seersucker :D breeches (20% off if you are a USEF member or I saw in ad in Practical Horseman/Dressage Today for 20% off) for just under $100, full seat. They run small, so size up. Love them--lots of compliments on my new chic look.

Riding Sports--I have the granny panty full seat pair with the baggy pockets and like them, but I'm tiny and the waist is definately snug and high. They run normal in sizing, but yes, high in the waist. I liked them because they were different looking. They are reasonably priced too!

taxreturn2002
Sep. 8, 2009, 03:36 PM
I broke down and bought a pair of FITS. They are a bit strange looking, once you put them on they are quite flattering, and soooo comfortable. The segmented panels keep you from feeling like your butt cheeks are taped together!

Love them! I found no other FS comfortable.

Dramapony_misty
Sep. 8, 2009, 04:43 PM
I haven't tried the Ovations, but from reviews that I've read about other Ovation products, and I have their stirrup leathers, it's not at the highest end of quality either. But then again neither is their price.

I have the Ovations Euroweaves and they are great! The superstick material really keeps me in the saddle (better than full chaps I found out this weekend when my gelding threw a fit over laundry flapping in the breeze 50 yards away. A big leap/spook/spin combo would usually leave me in the dirt, but I was getting used to my super stick full seats for a show this weekend). I have first hand experience with the sticky seat!!(um...that's sounds wrong :lol:)

Anyway, The Euroweaves are great and the fact that they are Dri-Lex lined means you are NOT going to sweat and get all slimy in them. Microweaves are a bit heavier fabric...not hotter, but heavier. I've had them a while now and they look new despite being thrown in the washer numerous times (cuz Lord knows I can't keep white things white for nothing!)

Mardi
Sep. 8, 2009, 04:48 PM
Anyway, The Euroweaves are great and the fact that they are Dri-Lex lined means you are going to sweat and get all slimy in them.

Is that a good thing ?

Coppers mom
Sep. 8, 2009, 04:48 PM
I really love my Ovations for the price. They're not comparable at all to my Pikeurs, but they're still much better than other breeches in that price range.

Dramapony_misty
Sep. 8, 2009, 04:57 PM
Is that a good thing ?

Akk...no..you are NOT going to get slimy :-P

Invite
Sep. 8, 2009, 06:33 PM
I have determined there is no best brand of breeches. We all have different shapes, so the best breeches are relative to who is wearing them. I like Irideon and FITS. They are actually long enough for me. I have a super long rise, so the invention of low rise has created hellish breech shopping trips. In all honesty, most regular breeches fir me like low rise. Ahhhh...I could go on and on!

GallantGesture
Sep. 9, 2009, 11:25 AM
I really like the Ovation Euroweave breeches, I have a pair that I wear ALL the time, they are my favorite breeches!! (Even over some Pikeurs I never wear) But, I have an identical pair in a different color that just doesn't fit the same.... and I don't like them near as much. Same breeches, same size, but they are just "ok"... so I don't know! The material is really nice though, plenty of stretch and lightweight, but still enough material to wear well and look nice.

Right now Dover has a ton of items on clearance. I was looking at it last night and there are an assortment of breeches on there, I don't know how many color/size options are still left though, but often it is the really small ones left when everything else is sold out.

akrogirl
Sep. 9, 2009, 12:33 PM
I have determined there is no best brand of breeches. We all have different shapes, so the best breeches are relative to who is wearing them. I like Irideon and FITS. They are actually long enough for me. I have a super long rise, so the invention of low rise has created hellish breech shopping trips. In all honesty, most regular breeches fir me like low rise. Ahhhh...I could go on and on!

You are not alone! Breech shopping has become almost impossible for me, also. Like you, I love my FITS and Irideon Cadence breeches, with my Kerrits HT pull-ons a favorite for more casual use in warmer weather (the regular fabric doesn't fit the same :-( )

I can't wait for the low-rise fad to end, lol.

myvanya
Sep. 9, 2009, 02:48 PM
I am so glad you posted this as I am somewhat on the lookout for just about everything (boots, breeches, stock tie....saddle...ouch)right now and was having the same question. Good to know the Ovations are worth a shot. Is the sizing pretty "normal" on them? Meaning if I wear a certain size in say, Ariats (since I do jumpers too) would I probably wear the same size in the Ovations?

Dramapony_misty
Sep. 9, 2009, 03:58 PM
I am so glad you posted this as I am somewhat on the lookout for just about everything (boots, breeches, stock tie....saddle...ouch)right now and was having the same question. Good to know the Ovations are worth a shot. Is the sizing pretty "normal" on them? Meaning if I wear a certain size in say, Ariats (since I do jumpers too) would I probably wear the same size in the Ovations?

I've found that the Ovations tend to run a bit on the small side by like half a size (if that makes sense). I'm a 28 and wear a size 28, but they are nice and snug (which is how I like my breeches). If you are a 28 but like a little more room (like in Ariats or Tailored Sportsmans...yes I know this a dressage thread but I haven't tried Pikurs yet so I can't compare), go up a size.

Caballista
Sep. 9, 2009, 05:00 PM
Equissentials are the best full-seat breeches ever. I wear the regular weight even in the hot GA summer. I've tried FITs and the rest on this thread. Did not like them at all. Equissentials aren't cheap, but they are fabulous. They wear forever, plus the deerskin recycles. But perhaps the best fact is the fit. Great for the ego. Go down a size. I normally wear a 28 and took a 26.

Pedro
Sep. 11, 2009, 11:08 PM
Read Reviews of Ju-tey Full seat Breeches on www.vrtack.com.
http://www.vrtack.com/catalog/jutey-dressage-plaid-collectionblueblackwhite-p-809.html.

Brown Horse
Sep. 12, 2009, 10:21 PM
Read Reviews of Ju-tey Full seat Breeches on www.vrtack.com.
http://www.vrtack.com/catalog/jutey-dressage-plaid-collectionblueblackwhite-p-809.html.

omg...I was looking at all the Ju-tey breeches...and the pictures sure are cracking me up! I mean, really...http://www.vrtack.com/catalog/jutey-micro-full-seat-breeches-p-812.html Can you tell a MAN took these? :lol: Not a professional photog, obviously...
Sorry, not to hijack the thread :)

OP, I reallllllly like Irideon Cadence...unfortunately they're out of my budget right now, but someday!

kkj
Sep. 13, 2009, 09:23 AM
I love Eurofit and RTS breeches.

Some less expensive breeches which have worked for me- Goode Rider but not the low rise. I got a couple of pairs on Ebay for about $15 each new and they have held up very well.

I also got a pair of Royal Highness breeches from Classic Saddlery which were under $100 very comfy and wear very well.

Stay away from the Riding Sport breeches. They fade very quickly and look old after a couple of washings.

cmdrcltr
Sep. 13, 2009, 10:45 AM
I'll say sorry upfront for hijacking, but while we're talking about breeches, does anyone know where I can find white breeches in petite (either knee patch or full seat)? Dover carries one brand that offers petite in tan, but I've been unable to find white. I'm only 5'1", and regular breeches go down to my ankles leaving wrinkles in the thighs. Can't go to junior sizes because I need a 30 waist.

Schneiders saddlery has just added a new line called "Stickyseat Tights". I don't know anything about them, but the price is great for schoolers IF they hold up. The summerweight only comes in taupe and the winterweight in black. The sticky patches look similar to FITS.

Velvet
Sep. 13, 2009, 05:17 PM
No clarino, only a real leather full seat that goes down the ENTIRE leg (not just under the knee since everyone's knee hits at a different spot). I also still prefer pleated and looser on the leg so your thigh lays flatter. Doesn't matter if you're skinny or not, there's a much better reason for a thigh that is NOT wrapped in spandex (I know it's not spandex, I'm just making a point ;) ).

Robyn
Sep. 13, 2009, 06:14 PM
Good to know that people who love their Irideons also like FITS. They are next on my list. BTW, I have Equissentials and do NOT like them. The fabric reminds me of sweat pants...although I love the deerskin. For those of you who mentioned the Irideons, how does the sizing compare in the FITS??

sid
Sep. 13, 2009, 06:26 PM
Haven't read all the replies...but the only thing I can add is that, like well made tack, you get what you pay for in durability.

I have Kentucky and Pikeur's that are over 10 years old (some even older) have held up well and still look great (and like with tack, with good care).

Find them on sale if you can if budget is a consideration.

mimiwenk
Sep. 13, 2009, 06:52 PM
FITS all the way. That's all I wear anymore.

Surviving the Dramas
Sep. 13, 2009, 07:20 PM
omg...I was looking at all the Ju-tey breeches...and the pictures sure are cracking me up! I mean, really...http://www.vrtack.com/catalog/jutey-micro-full-seat-breeches-p-812.html Can you tell a MAN took these? :lol: Not a professional photog, obviously...
Sorry, not to hijack the thread :)


OMG! looks like the photographer was someone more used to taking photos for Playboy and Hustler from those pics!!

Forte
Sep. 14, 2009, 12:22 AM
I would suck it up and by the Pikeur Luganas if that's what you like. They last forever and they don't fade much. I also like my Kentucky Melbourne Breeches. Very similar styling and sizing as the Luganas, but a bit cheaper.

Ambrey
Sep. 14, 2009, 12:43 AM
Tropical Riders are really great! And if you wait for their sales, they are quite reasonable :)

caddym
Sep. 14, 2009, 09:21 AM
another vote for Horka's and the jean style are really sassy looking :)

easyklc
Sep. 17, 2009, 04:08 PM
Tropical riders have been the best so far. I wait for sales and buy them when they're cheap. However, over the years I have discovered the extended leg breeches and prefer them over full seats now. You still have some grip in the seat bone/crouch area where you need it and I like less bulk under me. Nothing beats deer skin. They wash up great in Leather Therapy and still look new after my not-so-nice care.

FITS is now making an extended leg version and man oh man they are comfortable. Perfect for summer riding! I highly recommend them! And no strange pattern on your ass...:lol:

And as an aside I do like my old synthetic seated Eurostars. Cotton blend and stretchy, wash up well and affordable.

PaddyUK
Sep. 18, 2009, 10:18 AM
FITS all the way. That's all I wear anymore.

Me too. But you can't buy them in the UK.

I'll have to wait for a while for the £/$ exchange rate to be in the £ favour, but I have a couple of pairs left to keep me going.

Paddy

caddym
Sep. 18, 2009, 11:57 AM
I've always ridden in Horka, and they are pretty reasonably priced, middle of the road, with better quality.

another vote for Horka. And the equine fashion and tack is great to work with

veezee
Sep. 18, 2009, 12:28 PM
http://www.equissentials.net/

Equissentials!!!

I have several of these and absolutely love them!
I have full seat and the extended leg. Both styles are wonderful and best of all these breeches are ALWAYS comfortable and last and last. They also will recycle the deerskin if you need to have another pair made but so far I haven't had to do that. Just love these breeches!!!

HCF
Sep. 18, 2009, 02:16 PM
Good to know that people who love their Irideons also like FITS. They are next on my list. BTW, I have Equissentials and do NOT like them. The fabric reminds me of sweat pants...although I love the deerskin. For those of you who mentioned the Irideons, how does the sizing compare in the FITS??



I love my FITS! I have been slowly replacing all my breeches with FITS. They are pricey, but deals can be found if you keep your eyes open. I've gotten most of mine on eBay, new for a fraction of the regular price.

As for the size, I wear a Medium in Irideon and FITS.

lorilu
Sep. 21, 2009, 10:11 AM
I have Kerrits that I love, old ones with the suede full seat (when they first came out). They fit my fluffy thighs. The ribbed material hides various.... unevenness. What I especially like is that they are NOT cotton. I find cotton unbearable here in Florida's humidity.
But the Kerrits are a *bit* too see through for me.....

ANy suggestions for another brand of full seats that are NOT cotton? (that fit fluffy thighs and calves and that come in white for shows.... )??

Thanks

Spyder
Sep. 21, 2009, 02:13 PM
Whatever the breeches, they have to have pockets. I have a couple of Tropical Riders and other pull-ons but I prefer my old Riding Sports and Kentuckys (which BTW wear like iron) over the TR w/o pockets.

JAD
Sep. 21, 2009, 04:52 PM
Just picked up a pair of Kerrits....they are sort of a polyester material with pockets on each leg and the full seat is rubbery....you certainly do STICK!

Cobes
Sep. 24, 2009, 02:32 AM
Try the new Kerrits Breathe Tight II, they are my current favorite to ride in everyday. They have just enough tackiness!!

http://www.kerrits.com/product_BreatheTight_w09.asp

vali
Sep. 24, 2009, 04:15 AM
I'm similar height but weigh about 10 lb more. My favorites are the microfiber Eurostars, although you usually need to order from Germany, and more recently the Tropical Rider X2's. Very flattering and breathable. I have a pair of Kerrits that are fine but are not so durable.

WBLover
Sep. 24, 2009, 09:46 AM
I just ordered some Ovation Euroweave's with the SuperStick seats....Can't wait to get them! I'd love to get some FITS but it's just not in the budget.

Hey, is the Ovation SuperStick seat more like a "pleather" type fabric, or more of a rubberized bumps gripper type? I saw a few different pictures and just couldn't tell. Either way, I wanted something with a little more "schtick" than Clarino!! ;)

Dressage.For.Life.
Sep. 24, 2009, 12:21 PM
All my breeches are Irideon. I tried FITS but non of them fit me (tack shop only had the pull-ons in the store). I'm 5'6" and quite average (wear a small tall or medium Irideon). In the size I should have been able to wear, I couldn't get over my -small- hips and they were too short. Next size up was too baggy in the seat area, and from the knee down. FITS recommend trying their others but I've never been able to do non-pull-ons (never fit me right) and I wasn't going to order two pairs and then have to return at least one.

thatmoody
Sep. 24, 2009, 02:04 PM
Does anyone know if you can have the FITS re-seated as well? I know you can the equissentials but I've literally ridden the butt off both my FITS and my Tropical riders. I am thinking I might have to have a seamstress just put a doeskin patch on there :(. I still love them, but the leather has just worn to nothing on the inner thigh. They are 3 years old, btw.

Ambrey
Sep. 24, 2009, 02:12 PM
Does anyone know if you can have the FITS re-seated as well? I know you can the equissentials but I've literally ridden the butt off both my FITS and my Tropical riders. I am thinking I might have to have a seamstress just put a doeskin patch on there :(. I still love them, but the leather has just worn to nothing on the inner thigh. They are 3 years old, btw.

I've heard of having the seats put on new fabric, for about half the price of new breeches, but never having new seats put on old fabric. I think most of the cost is in the seats for the leather/deerskin.

Just wait until Tropical Rider has a 50% off sale and get some new ones!

thatmoody
Sep. 24, 2009, 02:26 PM
But they're only 3 years old! And especially the FITS - since they're segmented, and it's only a ocuple of the segments that are worn, I think that perhaps I could get a couple of new ones slapped on there :). I am, apparently, hard on breeches.