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HorsRdr477
Sep. 1, 2009, 03:00 PM
3L 17.5 M20 AG 10 AR 10 337 04

What does it all mean? I know it's a 17 1/2

Horselove
Sep. 1, 2009, 03:16 PM
Antares utilizes serial numbers to certify a specific saddle to the first buyer. The first few numbers 3L 17.5M is the flap position and length and a 17.5 saddle seat......The other numbers, who knows......could be the type of leather or the type of flocking.....

InTheDark
Sep. 1, 2009, 07:10 PM
I have been exhaustively searching for the code book as well... i have a little insight, but not much :cry:here is what i have learned..... yup 3 is the length, which is long (2 being the the averag length for an average height woman) but they can go up to a 5 in flap length, if that helps. L refers to the seat width - L, I believe means wide seat width (nothing to do with tree). SC is usually stamped for 1/2 deep seat or C for deep seat so don't know what it means if neither stamped. A is a forward flap and AA is very forward, but don't see that in your code either. no clue about AG. M20 has something to do with the panels and AR 10 does as well - this is where all the custom stuff comes in. 337 04 would be the serial # and 04 would also be the year it was made. I would contact the Antares rep for an exact reading and please let us know what you learn !!
Good luck in your saddle search!

SolNSweetie
Sep. 1, 2009, 07:46 PM
3L 17.5 M20 AG 10 AR 10 337 04
The previous replyer was correct about the 3L & 17.5 part.
I think the M20 is a average/wide tree (the M20 fit my wide appendex & my trainer asked the rep for an "average" tree when she ordered and he said the M20 would be it. I have put the M10 on and it was more narrow but not what I would consider a "narrow" tree if that makes sense- french saddles tend to run wider than american/england made). The AG10 and AR10 have to do with the modifications on the pannels if I am not mistaken (I think the 10 is 10millimeters extra padding but AR and AG I don't know where exactly they added it to-it is location if I am not mistaken. For example 2 letters would mean right back of tree/pannel, another 2 letters would mean the wither area of the saddle. This has to do with making the saddle fit for uphill, downhill, swaybacked, etc horses). I was told the "337 04" would mean the 337th saddle made in 2004. Hope this helps. I agree with the previous poster- if you contact antares they are more than happy to help as well as Devoucox. I have contacted both about saddles I have been looking at and both reps were very helpful.

3DayMetro
Sep. 2, 2009, 12:35 AM
Well, I see we're both eyeing the same saddle:D

I contacted two Antares reps and here's what I learned:

3 - refers to the flap size - this is an average sized flap (contrary to what another posted) and on this particular saddle it is not built overly forward. (I'm 5'7" and was told it should be a great fit)
L - refers to the seat style with emphisis on the twist and on this particular saddle it is a touch wider on each side than the average with a narrow twist.
17.5 - seat size, self explainitory
M20 - refers to the tree size - this is the average sized tree and on this particular saddle was fitted to a warmblood subtle wither & sloping shoulder.
AG 10 - refers to the panel and in this particluar saddle 10mm of padding was added to the pack of the panel near the gussett.
AR 10 - refers to the panel and in this particular saddle 10mm of padding was added to the front of the panel near the wither.
337 - refers to the place in production it was made
04 - refers to the year it was made and in this particular saddle it is considered an 05 because of the month it was manufacturered.

The leather is already posted in the saddle's ad, so you know that.

Now why I just broke down the particulars for someone who may potentially get it before I do...I'm not sure! :confused::no: (I have to do some budget crunching first but WOW it's a deal hard to pass up! especially with all the extras:yes:

I mean....no, it's overpriced and ugly:lol:

HorsRdr477
Sep. 2, 2009, 01:40 AM
Well, I see we're both eyeing the same saddle:D

I contacted two Antares reps and here's what I learned:

3 - refers to the flap size - this is an average sized flap (contrary to what another posted) and on this particular saddle it is not built overly forward. (I'm 5'7" and was told it should be a great fit)
L - refers to the seat style with emphisis on the twist and on this particular saddle it is a touch wider on each side than the average with a narrow twist.
17.5 - seat size, self explainitory
M20 - refers to the tree size - this is the average sized tree and on this particular saddle was fitted to a warmblood subtle wither & sloping shoulder.
AG 10 - refers to the panel and in this particluar saddle 10mm of padding was added to the pack of the panel near the gussett.
AR 10 - refers to the panel and in this particular saddle 10mm of padding was added to the front of the panel near the wither.
337 - refers to the place in production it was made
04 - refers to the year it was made and in this particular saddle it is considered an 05 because of the month it was manufacturered.

The leather is already posted in the saddle's ad, so you know that.

Now why I just broke down the particulars for someone who may potentially get it before I do...I'm not sure! :confused::no: (I have to do some budget crunching first but WOW it's a deal hard to pass up! especially with all the extras:yes:

I mean....no, it's overpriced and ugly:lol:

Thanks!

InTheDark
Sep. 2, 2009, 07:01 AM
3 - refers to the flap size - this is an average sized flap (contrary to what another posted) and on this particular saddle it is not built overly forward. (I'm 5'7" and was told it should be a great fit)
I must be living in a dream world, I thought I was average at 5'4"!!!:lol:

No wonder I thought a #3 flap was long!

3DayMetro
Sep. 2, 2009, 01:58 PM
"I must be living in a dream world, I thought I was average at 5'4"!!!"

:lol: I've been fooling myself, too - I thought 5'7" was tall :sigh:

HorsRdr477
Sep. 2, 2009, 04:33 PM
To buy or not to buy:confused::confused::confused: I need a new saddle so bad, but it's a ton of money to spend. What to do what to do!!

wsmoak
Oct. 8, 2009, 07:52 PM
How about decoding another one?

SC 3 N 17.5 L 05 1514

I'm looking for the tree size... "N" means narrow perhaps?

HorsRdr477
Oct. 9, 2009, 03:38 AM
I think N refers to the flap position. I believe it's a normal flap :)

rottngirl
Oct. 10, 2009, 12:56 AM
How about decoding another one?

SC 3 N 17.5 L 05 1514

I'm looking for the tree size... "N" means narrow perhaps?

SC = Semi-Deep
3 = Flap Length (a bit longer than standard, IIRC)
N = Normal Flap, not too forward
17.5 = seat size
L = twist, I thought this was "normal" but per above is wide??
05 = year of manufacture
1514 = saddle number made that year

CDM
Oct. 10, 2009, 10:18 PM
The L actually refers to the seat width, they are either 24, 26, or 28 and L means 26 seat width. At least that is what the rep explained to me last weekend.

Vesty
Oct. 27, 2009, 06:24 PM
How about decoding another one?

SC 3 N 17.5 L 05 1514

I'm looking for the tree size... "N" means narrow perhaps?

Hi, I was looking at this exact same saddle, did you buy it and if no why not? Thanks!!

wsmoak
Dec. 2, 2009, 11:53 PM
If the info starts out SC2 3AA I can decode

SC = semi deep seat

AA - very forward flap

Does the 3 with the AA mean it's a long flap?

What does the 2 with the SC mean?

Thanks!

shoponee70
Dec. 3, 2009, 10:12 AM
they really ought to post something on there website like a guide to decoding there serial numbers! lol!!!

farm house has a used 16" reg tree short flap on there consignment page for 2500 if anyones in the market, i saw it last night on the web.. looks like its in great shape too.

http://www.farmhousetack.com/servlet/the-1738/Antares-16%22-Saddle-Used/Detail

LeeB10
Dec. 3, 2009, 11:07 AM
http://www.farmhousetack.com/servlet...le-Used/Detail


I am in the market for that size but it says 3400 when I click it.. I'd much rather pay 2500

shoponee70
Dec. 3, 2009, 11:39 AM
my bad ! wrong link!
http://www.farmhousetack.com/servlet/the-1940/Antares-16%22-Calf-ODE/Detail

lol!! sorry!! heres the 2500$ one. 864-457-3557 is the number if you want to take it out on trial! =)

KnKShowmom
Jan. 21, 2010, 09:39 AM
Saw this thread when it started and thought I had figured these serial numbers out but...

DD rode in one last night that had this number:

4AABL175

So I think it is a17.5" saddle with a 4 (long) flap, very forward flap (AA), an wider (L) seat

So my question is, what is the B for - flap position or seat size or something else???

klmck63
Feb. 11, 2010, 07:20 PM
Thought I'd bump this up again...

What's the difference between an M10 saddle and M20? What about the ones with no 'M' stamped.

Is this the tree?

Whoops! The answer was already here. Never mind!

Jacqui
Dec. 27, 2010, 10:09 AM
Could someone tell me what XA means in the Antares serial #? I have a 17.5 L with 3A flaps and it is SC(half deep). Great saddle for my warmblood!

snaffle635
Jul. 19, 2011, 03:00 PM
Resurrecting this thread.

I have an Antares and it feels rather flat/low at the twist. It's difficult to grip with my inner thigh. I rode in my trainer's Antares this weekend and hers did not feel like that at all...it was much more comfortable and felt like I could grab onto something.

Mine is: SC 2 N 17 L M10.

What does that mean?

Does anyone know if it's possible to change the elevation at the front of the saddle...or would I need a new saddle?

Thanks!

KateKat
Jul. 19, 2011, 03:26 PM
you could potentially have Antares repanel the saddle, to the tune of about $400 (that is what I was quoted). However, is the saddle you have now made for a specific horse you ride?

What is the serial of your trainer's saddle? Its possible she has the M20, whereas you have the M10. M20 I think has a slightly wider twist, as this is their "regular" tree. Looking back at the thread it also appears that the "L" indicates you have a slightly more narrow twist.

Also, if your Antares is in good shape they are always willing to appraise it for a trade in, which you can then apply to a new saddle. Just a thought.

snaffle635
Jul. 19, 2011, 04:49 PM
Thanks, Kate. Yes, I had this saddle custom built for my horse. It fits him nicely. We swapped out the panels when it arrived and put on the gusseted panels so the saddle fits nicely over his back.

I'll check my trainer's serial number. I tried to find it today, but the saddle was on a horse on the cross ties and it was hard to see the numbers. :-)

alto
May. 22, 2013, 06:56 PM
A bump for 2013 as the Search Beast has been ... well, beastly of late

;)

DR
Jun. 12, 2013, 06:56 PM
This thread was very helpful. So I believe I have a 3 length flap with a normal position, a wide, deep seat and I have some additional padding ( I believe it was the front panels) but I don't know what the Q stands for. Does anyone know what the Q stands for on my Antares saddle? This is what was listed on my original invoice:

17.5 Q3N - L C Antares Saddle - Chocolate - Calfskin Leather - RAG+15 Panels - With Blocks

:confused:

MILOUTE55
Jun. 13, 2013, 07:56 AM
SC = Semi-Deep
3 = Flap Length (a bit longer than standard, IIRC)
N = Normal Flap, not too forward
17.5 = seat size
L = twist, I thought this was "normal" but per above is wide??
05 = year of manufacture
1514 = saddle number made that year

yup, and as CDM said, L is for the seat width.
Not sure where you all are looking at these Antares, but I always advise buying a saddle from its manufacturer, even if you're going for a used.
It will ensure a better after sale service and you will be able to turn to the manufacturer if you have an issue with the saddle, since most will stand by their products even the ones they sell used (well at least I do).
Also, people at Antares are great to deal with, so give them a call and be put on their watch-list for your dream saddle!

DR
Jun. 26, 2013, 01:52 PM
yup, and as CDM said, L is for the seat width.
Not sure where you all are looking at these Antares, but I always advise buying a saddle from its manufacturer, even if you're going for a used.
It will ensure a better after sale service and you will be able to turn to the manufacturer if you have an issue with the saddle, since most will stand by their products even the ones they sell used (well at least I do).
Also, people at Antares are great to deal with, so give them a call and be put on their watch-list for your dream saddle!

Thanks very much. I actually got my saddle new from Antares years ago. It is a beauty. Gorgeous chocolate calfskin. I love it. Very balanced and comfortable-it's not going anywhere. I will never part with it. But it was made for my thoroughbred hunter gelding. I have a second horse, a TB/WB cross mare and the saddle does not fit her. So I was just trying to figure out exactly what I have before I start looking for something new for her. I just can't figure out what the "Q" stands for. Would you happen to know? I've never seen that notated for the flap type on anyone else's Antares saddle. I could certainly call them. They are, as you say, extremely helpful. Good customer service with this company for sure.

mercedesva
Jun. 26, 2013, 03:26 PM
Ignore the Q. It doesn't mean anything. Just a place holder on the invoice. Check out the Antares used website www.frenchusedsaddles.com and email me (info@frenchusedsaddles.com)! We would love to help you find another saddle for your mare :)

DR
Jul. 2, 2013, 03:30 PM
Ignore the Q. It doesn't mean anything. Just a place holder on the invoice. Check out the Antares used website www.frenchusedsaddles.com and email me (info@frenchusedsaddles.com)! We would love to help you find another saddle for your mare :)

Thank you! I will. :)

anyanicholson
Nov. 6, 2013, 08:38 PM
Hi! My Antares is:
2 E 17
M 15
279 06
Can anybody tell me what all of this means?!