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TXnGA
Sep. 1, 2009, 11:19 AM
HI All,
Does anyone have any reputable JRT breeders that they can recommend? Specifically around SC?
Thanks,
Sparky Boy
Sep. 1, 2009, 11:57 AM
www.russellrescue.com ?
Nezzy
Sep. 1, 2009, 12:59 PM
http://www.terrier.com
JWB
Sep. 1, 2009, 01:07 PM
What sort of JRTs are you looking for? Racing lines, show lines, performance (agility/flyball) lines, earth-dog lines?
What do you want to do with your JRT?
I'd start with the AKC breed referral contact.
Parent Club: Parson Russell Terrier Association of America
Breeder Referral: Jeanette Pinker; EST (610) 593-6185
RacetrackReject
Sep. 1, 2009, 04:36 PM
Just wanted to say that Jack Russell Terrier is not an AKC breed. You posted links to the Parson Russell breed information, different animals.
Terrier.com is the registry for Jack Russell Terriers (JRTCA).
Go Fish
Sep. 1, 2009, 04:50 PM
Just wanted to say that Jack Russell Terrier is not an AKC breed. You posted links to the Parson Russell breed information, different animals.
Terrier.com is the registry for Jack Russell Terriers (JRTCA).
Really? I didn't know that...:confused:
Daydream Believer
Sep. 1, 2009, 05:24 PM
Yes, some years ago the JRTCA fought to keep the JRT's out of the AKC. They were "assimilated" against the wishes of the majority of JRT breeders. At that time I was an active JRTCA breeder also, and we were concerned that the puppy mills would pick up on the breed and eventually the true working characteristics of the dogs bred out to fit some artificial show ring standard. One only has to look at many pedigreed breeds of show dogs to see what a mess they are...full of genetic problems and highly inbred. That is what the JRTCA was trying to prevent...to maintain the JRT's as a working terrier breed and not just a show ring pooch.
I heard that the JRTCA sued the AKC over the use of the name "Jack Russell terrier" so the AKC had to use a different name...aka the Parson Russell terrier.
Go Fish
Sep. 1, 2009, 09:20 PM
Yes, some years ago the JRTCA fought to keep the JRT's out of the AKC. They were "assimilated" against the wishes of the majority of JRT breeders. At that time I was an active JRTCA breeder also, and we were concerned that the puppy mills would pick up on the breed and eventually the true working characteristics of the dogs bred out to fit some artificial show ring standard. One only has to look at many pedigreed breeds of show dogs to see what a mess they are...full of genetic problems and highly inbred. That is what the JRTCA was trying to prevent...to maintain the JRT's as a working terrier breed and not just a show ring pooch.
I heard that the JRTCA sued the AKC over the use of the name "Jack Russell terrier" so the AKC had to use a different name...aka the Parson Russell terrier.
So are they two separate breeds with different physical charateristics? The ones I saw shown at Westminster looked like JRTs to me.
Lincoln
Sep. 1, 2009, 09:30 PM
I have two Jacks from Trinity Farms Jacks in Aiken. www.easyjacks.com She breeds very nice dogs and also retires her breeding stock to pet homes at young ages -which is how I got mine - she seems to be quite selective about where her dogs go, notwithstanding having a good sized program. Mine are both adorable: one is Irish - so a stocky "shorty" and the other American with English lines behind her. Both have lovely characters and are beautiful dogs.
Bluey
Sep. 1, 2009, 09:33 PM
So are they two separate breeds with different physical charateristics? The ones I saw shown at Westminster looked like JRTs to me.
AKC thinks they are the same, JRTCA don't, evidently.;)
The same happened with other breeds, aussies, border collies and such.
There was much infighting in the breeds and some went on to follow the specifications to become an AKC breed.
The AKC is a registry and each dog breed has it's own club, that if they want to become AKC elegible, they have to form the club under those regulations to run the breed club and participate in all AKC activities.
Since they are a big organization, those breeds that were independent, if some members want to belong to the AKC, some fight against it.
The talk of the dogs in AKC then becoming bad dogs is just that, talk.
There are bad dogs in any one registry, as there are very good ones.
Many breeders just register with both, so the puppy buyers have a choice if they want to show their dogs.
There really is enough dog business to go around and, honestly, to close a breed book too much may eventually not leave enough genes in there to be as thrifty as if it was accepting of more dogs of that breed, no matter what kennel club we are talking about.
Daydream Believer
Sep. 2, 2009, 09:06 AM
So are they two separate breeds with different physical charateristics? The ones I saw shown at Westminster looked like JRTs to me.
For now they are pretty much the same but as time goes on and breeding is done for two different standards...one for show ring standard and one for a working standard...you will see a difference.
Case in point...the Fox terrier and Jack Russell used to be the same breed. The same thing happened in the early 1900's in the UK...some breeders went to the kennel club and started to show the dogs and the hunt kennels continued to breed working dogs. Eventually they diverged into two very distinct types or breeds with two separate names. The Fox Terrier has a much deeper chest now and is not functional as a working terrier any longer nor does anyone use them that way. The JRT is still bred to hunt below ground and still can fit it's small chest into an earth.
RacetrackReject
Sep. 2, 2009, 09:29 AM
Sorry if I left any confusion by my post. I didnt' mean that the JRT and Parson were literally 2 different animals (not yet), but that the 2 organizations that register them are 2 different entities.
For the AKC, every puppy that is born to registered parents can be registered. With the JRTCA, the parents have to be registered and the puppies have to wait until 1 year old then be inspected by a veterinarian against the breed standard and pass to receive papers. If they do not pass, they must be spayed/neutered to receive any sort of COP. Also, if you alter your pup before they are inspected, they can only receive a COP. This is as per my understanding of the rules. My JRT pup just turned 1 yr old and goes for his inspection next week.
threedogpack
Sep. 2, 2009, 05:34 PM
http://www.sowsearfarm.com/
a couple of things I like about her dogs.
1. they are raised as a group...in the house....with adult dogs. The puppies learn dog/dog skills very quickly.
2. they are used. She hunts AND shows her dogs.
3. she's been breeding for years and has extensive experience with this breed.
4. her dogs are incredibly consistent with their looks and their ability. You cannot beat that with a stick.
If I was ever in a million years going to get a Jack, this is where I'd go (OR someone Karen recommended).
Perfect Pony
Sep. 2, 2009, 05:37 PM
http://www.sowsearfarm.com/
a couple of things I like about her dogs.
1. they are raised as a group...in the house....with adult dogs. The puppies learn dog/dog skills very quickly.
2. they are used. She hunts AND shows her dogs.
3. she's been breeding for years and has extensive experience with this breed.
4. her dogs are incredibly consistent with their looks and their ability. You cannot beat that with a stick.
If I was ever in a million years going to get a Jack, this is where I'd go (OR someone Karen recommended).
I have a daughter of Sow's Ear Stetson, who now lives here in California. I absolutely love her. They are beautiful dogs.
threedogpack
Sep. 2, 2009, 07:55 PM
I have a daughter of Sow's Ear Stetson, who now lives here in California. I absolutely love her. They are beautiful dogs.
and I bet she's got a stable personality doesn't she?
spookhorse
Sep. 2, 2009, 08:59 PM
My boy's great grand dad on both sides is Sow's Ear Gunner and he has definitely got the most stable personality in a JRT that I've ever seen.
His breeder was one of the real responsible types and went for not only good looks, but smarts and trainability, like the Sow's Ear people.
Putter
Sep. 3, 2009, 09:27 AM
My sister got 2 puppies from Trinity Farms Kennels, Aiken, SC (easyjacks.com) in March and they have turned out to be really good dogs. The breeder was recommended to her by a friend who also has 2 dogs from there.
LostAcres
Sep. 3, 2009, 09:46 AM
http://www.sowsearfarm.com/
a couple of things I like about her dogs.
1. they are raised as a group...in the house....with adult dogs. The puppies learn dog/dog skills very quickly.
2. they are used. She hunts AND shows her dogs.
3. she's been breeding for years and has extensive experience with this breed.
4. her dogs are incredibly consistent with their looks and their ability. You cannot beat that with a stick.
If I was ever in a million years going to get a Jack, this is where I'd go (OR someone Karen recommended).
I can certainly vouch for Sow's Ear. :D
kellyb
Sep. 3, 2009, 09:51 AM
Mine came from Old Drum which is also in SC, he is by a Hart Farms stud. Unfortunately my breeder doesn't breed anymore, which is a shame because I really love my dog and wouldn't mind another from the same line.
http://keliente.com/Dogs/Indy%20Sept/indy4.jpg
threedogpack
Sep. 3, 2009, 05:52 PM
I can certainly vouch for Sow's Ear. :D
Are you Iris?
LostAcres
Sep. 3, 2009, 05:59 PM
Are you Iris?
Yep, that would be me
threedogpack
Sep. 3, 2009, 06:54 PM
Hey folks, we have us a rock star in our midst.
This is THE woman who started the line of JRT's that I always recommend!
Perfect Pony
Sep. 4, 2009, 12:28 AM
Sophie is a little different kind of JRT. Funny thing, all 3 of my JRTs I have have been radically different, but all good. Sophie is smart, quiet, does not dig, and is friendly but very stand-offish with new people. But has never been aggressive. They call her "Stet-girl" because she looks so much like her daddy. She looks so much like a Sow's Ear dog though, I was shocked when I saw all her siblings.
See if you can spot the Sow's Ear dog
http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/21957/2408354470104500765S600x600Q85.jpg
and I bet she's got a stable personality doesn't she?
Foxtrot's
Sep. 4, 2009, 01:57 PM
Good thread. As usuall there are so many "lines" of these JRT's that get developed with popularity of a breed. Poor breeding has led to the JRT earning a reputation as a yappy, bad mannered dog, and the opposite is true. There is only one JRT - but numerous offshoots. I bred them for years from a prominent breeder in Dorset. They were from the Portman Hunt and my original dog came over in l977.
All of her descendants had stellar temperaments, lively and funny, good with kids, biddable, etc. energy levels through the roof, though.
SSS4
Sep. 7, 2009, 04:18 PM
I know you are looking for a breeder but I have to say that I have gotten all 4 of my JRT's from the spca in Aiken. 2 broken coats, 1 "Irish" and 1 black and white smooth and they are all wonderful dogs! We seem to have an over abundance of unwanted JRT's in the area...would be worth a try!
joyful
Sep. 9, 2009, 11:51 PM
check out star valley russells in AZ and WY. Very nice dogs, great guarantees. I've had many dogs from their bloodlines - all great dogs. Very quiet for a JRT.
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