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Fharoah
Aug. 31, 2009, 04:44 PM
What could cause a horse to start drooling? He is currently getting ace to calm him, and bute twice daily as he has just had his pastern arthrodesed. I will be asking my vet but thought I would get your experiences!
Thankyou!
BuddyRoo
Aug. 31, 2009, 04:46 PM
if your horse is out to pasture, there is a fungus that grows on clover that causes drooling.
But given other stuff with your horse, you may want to talk to your vet.
Fharoah
Aug. 31, 2009, 06:19 PM
Mentioned it to my GP he wassn't concerned. Was emailing my surgeon so asked him in email, if I don't get a responce I will call. Anyone else know what can cause druel.
Equino
Aug. 31, 2009, 07:51 PM
As BuddyRoo said, there has been a fungus on clover that seems to be affecting a lot of horses lately. we have one mare here that suddenly started drooling, clear drool, out of nowhere. She's also drinking more water thsan normal. The vet looked her over and didn't seem concerned, just said to watch for dehydration, so we'll just keep an eye on her.
JMurray
Aug. 31, 2009, 07:58 PM
yup the fungus on the white clover. I get the drool every year...no I mean my horses do :lol:
jaimebaker
Aug. 31, 2009, 08:00 PM
I would agree with slafromine poisoning (clover slobbers) as well. Most of the time it occurs when the horse has access to pasture, but I've heard it can happen from hay containing clover as well (affected clover that is).
Fharoah
Aug. 31, 2009, 08:42 PM
My gelding is on stall rest and on an orchard timothy which looks to have no clover in it. He has been getting 1.5 grams of bute twice a day as prescribed is there any chance that could cause a horse to druel? I am worried about ulcers. Acepromazine won't cause drooling will it?
jaimebaker
Aug. 31, 2009, 08:50 PM
My gelding is on stall rest and on an orchard timothy which looks to have no clover in it. He has been getting 1.5 grams of bute twice a day as prescribed is there any chance that could cause a horse to druel? I am worried about ulcers. Acepromazine won't cause drooling will it?
You need to ask your vet about it. I've not personally dealt with excessive drool outside of clover. Have not seen it occur from bute or ace but again, check with your vet, it could be a side effect.
mhtokay
Aug. 31, 2009, 09:12 PM
If it's not clover.... I did hear of a horse years ago that started it in his stall. turned out he could reach an electrical outlet or light switch and he was shocking himself? Obviously not enough to kill him.
Long Spot
Aug. 31, 2009, 09:50 PM
Ulcers can cause drooling. The Bute may be at the root of this one.
Seven-up
Aug. 31, 2009, 11:18 PM
Does it happen all the time, or just for a certain time period and then stop?
What form is the ace and bute? Injectable, powder, pills, paste?
I did know a horse who was allergic to banamine paste. Not the banamine itself, just whatever made up the paste part. The drool would pour out of her mouth, clear but very thick and gooey, and would stop in an hour or so. She could have banamine as long as it wasn't in paste form. So, not being a vet, ;) I would think it might be possible that your horse is reacting to something in one of those medicines.
Does he do it right after getting the ace or bute?
equinelaw
Aug. 31, 2009, 11:24 PM
Ulcers can cause drooling. The Bute may be at the root of this one.
This.:yes:
Fharoah
Sep. 1, 2009, 12:18 AM
Ulcers can cause drooling. The Bute may be at the root of this one.
That is what I am afraid of really. I had asked my vet but he is more of a GP and said that was fine. I emailed my surgeon will have to call him tomorrow.
I noticed him drool this morning after breakfast it stopped, he was drooling after he was sedated when his bandage was changed. He emailed my surgeon but have got no response so think I will call him tomorrow, regular bute scares me!
WorthTheWait95
Sep. 1, 2009, 09:11 AM
This is completely off topic but I have a funny story from this summer.
I was riding along with my equine vet one day and we got called to an emergency because a horse was 'vomiting'. Frequent attempts to convince the hysterical owner that horses do not vomit did nothing so we drove an hour out there to see a perfectly happy, healthy horse drooling away in the cross ties. We took a quick look at his pasture and sure enough there was tons of clover in it. :lol: She was a little red faced when we left but was a good sport about it. Tough lesson to learn with an emergency farm call fee!
LOVE*MY*NAGS
Sep. 1, 2009, 11:19 AM
Damn that is what I am afraid of really. I had asked my vet but he is more of a GP and said that was fine. I emailed my surgeon will have to call him tomorrow.
I noticed him drool this morning after breakfast it stopped, he was drooling after he was sedated when his bandage was changed. He emailed my surgeon but have got no response so think I will call him tomorrow, regular bute scares me!
If your horse is onlyl drooling after the ace ~ its probably the ace. I have watched my horse (after being sedated) his lips hang, eyelids droops, head hangs, and he drools. If thats the only time he does it, its probably the ace. How much ace is he getting? How big of a horse? I have never had a reaction from bute.
Fharoah
Sep. 1, 2009, 11:46 AM
If your horse is onlyl drooling after the ace ~ its probably the ace. I have watched my horse (after being sedated) his lips hang, eyelids droops, head hangs, and he drools. If thats the only time he does it, its probably the ace. How much ace is he getting? How big of a horse? I have never had a reaction from bute.
I am not sure really. He has been on acepromazine since the day I brought him home. When he was at the hospital post surgery he was tripple kicking the brick walls, running circles in his stall, rearing, bucking they sedated him with acepromazine during those episodes. He is a real challenge to rest and it is imparative he stay quiet for the next. I would have him on a long term sedative but my surgeon does not use long term sedatives. My GP prescribed reserpine last year while he was resting for his collateral ligament injury but it did nothing for him, we even tried a larger dose both IM and orally it did not do anything. Niether my GP nor my surgeon use fluphenazine so I am trying to keep him calm with acepromazine until he becomes to used to it. If ace stops working I will likely beg my vet to try a low dose of fluphenazine.
The drooling is new, it happened twice yesterday, once before he was sedated and once after he was sedated. I haven't seen him do it since but want to be dilgent in catching any clinical changes as he has been through so much and getting allot of bute I really don't want to miss anything.
LOVE*MY*NAGS
Sep. 1, 2009, 12:11 PM
OK ~ I would be sure discuss with Vet.
The only other thing that comes to my mind is choke. Is he swallowing normally when he is drooling? Are you giving the ace and then having him eat?
Fharoah
Sep. 1, 2009, 03:46 PM
My surgeon says drooling is of no concern
LOVE*MY*NAGS
Sep. 1, 2009, 03:51 PM
Were you given any explanation as to what is causing your horse to do this?
Fharoah
Sep. 1, 2009, 03:57 PM
no explanation was given. My personal reading seggests that drooling can be a clinical sign of ulcers and is usually an indication of pain and can be from ulcers developing in the mouth as well as the stomach? But I must be wrong, because my surgeon says it is of no concern? He also says we should be able to give bute long term with no problems, I trust him but bute does scare me he is currently getting 1 gram morning and night and has been getting 1.5 grams since August 5th.
rcloisonne
Sep. 1, 2009, 06:07 PM
When are you going to put this horse on Ulcergard? You don't need a prescription for it.
Fharoah
Sep. 1, 2009, 06:56 PM
I think it may need a prescription here in Canada as I can't find it anywhere. Does anyone know where you can get ulcerguard in Canada?
I think I should have put him on it like a month ago.
Fharoah
Sep. 1, 2009, 07:54 PM
Yes I am really worried about ulcers. My GP and surgeon have no concern. I think I will buy 30 tubes of ulcerguard.
Long Spot
Sep. 2, 2009, 12:23 PM
Glad to hear it, Fharoah. I think it's a smart move, even though it is a spendy one.
At the end of the day, your horse has obviously been through a stressful situation, and continues to feel stress with the stall rest etc. For some horses, that is enough to cause ulcers. Add to that daily bute and the matter is aggrivated. You know your horse best. If your gut was telling you the drooling is of concern, you are likely right.
I totally feel for you. I've got one in the barn right now who is on stall rest and we are also doing the daily ace routine to avoid the kicking, rearing, and general unhappiness. It's a tough balancing act to keep them happy enough to heal. I'm sorry you and your horse are having to go through that.
Hope you have the best possible outcome with his procedure and confinement!
Fharoah
Sep. 2, 2009, 12:37 PM
I had emailed a specialist who did a big study on ulcers. Just another opinion but what she said said drooling can be a clinical sign of gastic ulceration or it could be irrelevent. I hope my horse does not have ulcers, it is just not something I am not willing to be gamble with. When my horse was at the hospital he was really unhappy as he ended up being the only horse there and sometimes no people. He would have explosive episodes where I couldn't even groom him because he was kicking and wearing, he would stop and be totally quiet. I requested scoping and or gastroguard,my surgeon felt there was no need. I really hope he doesn't have ulcers and some horses handle bute well, others don't. It is just not a risk I can continue to take!
also I was given not given a reason why my horse who has never drooled a day in the four years I have owned him would suddenly start to drool?
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