View Full Version : I want a Jack Russell! Hoping to see some at the KY Classique!
mcorbett
Aug. 27, 2009, 09:32 AM
I figure if I see a JR in person that I love, my husband won't be able to resist my, and the puppy's, puppy dog eyes. I can't spend lots of money, but I will provide a wonderful home with lots of long hacks for JR to run on with me and my pony!
QHEventr
Aug. 27, 2009, 10:11 AM
Why don't you consider going to a rescue or shelter.....I am in Lexington, and the rescue I foster for has probably 10 PUREBRED Jacks right now....
mcorbett
Aug. 27, 2009, 10:17 AM
Why don't you consider going to a rescue or shelter.....I am in Lexington, and the rescue I foster for has probably 10 PUREBRED Jacks right now....
I live in TN. I've looked at the JR rescue here and they don't have puppies right now. I know how challenging JR's can be and really want a puppy so I can raise it up with my other dogs and cats. I've never had a purebred anything, always pound puppy mutts, but I've always wanted a purebred JR puppy!
mcorbett
Aug. 27, 2009, 10:18 AM
I live in TN. I've looked at the JR rescue here and they don't have puppies right now. I know how challenging JR's can be and really want a puppy so I can raise it up with my other dogs and cats. I've never had a purebred anything, always pound puppy mutts, but I've always wanted a purebred JR puppy!
I'll look into the rescues in KY, good idea. I'm not sure if they will let someone out of state adopt!
HappyTalk
Aug. 27, 2009, 10:33 AM
There are tons of Jacks that are in rescue and need homes. I have adopted 3 JRTs and they have turned out to be wonderful dogs and get along great with the rest of my crew (including cats). Not only have they been wonderful companions, they also turned out to be stellar performers at JRTCA terrier trials in several events. Go to the JRTCA website at terrier.com and you will find a dog.
QHEventr
Aug. 27, 2009, 10:37 AM
There is also "Jacks R Wild" rescue in the Lexington area. They should be on petfinder, but may have a website as well. All of the dogs are evaluated on their sutability for living with cats, dogs, kids, etc. I volunteer for a Bourbon County dog/cat rescue, and we currently have tons of Jacks, some of which live in foster care with cats and other dogs. We get these JRT's because someone thought they were the cutest puppies, and they grew up to be more that that person could handle. Being an adult JRT is not a bad thing, and remember, that JRT puppy that you want, WILL grow up.
Also, Our rescue DOES let out of state people adopt. As long as you can provide a great, loving and sutible home.
mcorbett
Aug. 27, 2009, 10:51 AM
Just found out that my local JR rescue has a litter of older pups coming on labor day from a puppy mill. Hopefully I can get one of those! :)
allpurpose
Aug. 27, 2009, 11:01 AM
Just found out that my local JR rescue has a litter of older pups coming on labor day from a puppy mill. Hopefully I can get one of those! :)
I think you need two...just sayin' ;)
AEM74
Aug. 27, 2009, 12:13 PM
I second, third, fourth the rescue idea. No need to go to a breeder if you want a purebred anything. There are so many great dogs in shelters and rescues that need a 2nd chance.
Good luck! I hope you find a wonderful companion for you and your husband!
HoneyB
Aug. 27, 2009, 12:16 PM
QHEventr - sent you a PM. I am very interested. Thanks!
RacetrackReject
Aug. 27, 2009, 12:20 PM
Definitely get two! You will get more rest if the pup has someone else to entertain him part of the time. Trust me on this..lol.
For inspiration, feel free to browse my JRT's photo album. http://s439.photobucket.com/albums/qq111/weltemaker/Tanner/
Yes, he is intact. He just turned 1 yesterday and could not get his papers until now, so had to stay intact.
imapepper
Aug. 27, 2009, 12:49 PM
FYI....prepare yourself for dealing with a JRT. Mine finally got to the point where I wasn't wanting to beat him (never beat him....just really wanted to) on a daily basis at the age of 10. My JRT, who is now the world's best dog at age 13, ate shoes, carpet, window sills, random articles of clothing, and several things that required surgical intervention. When I attempted to run him into being a civilized dog, the little #$%@ only got fit :eek: I could take him for a 5 mile run at 9:00 min miles and he would be quiet for ummmm....30 minutes and then he was ready for another run. He is wicked smart and figures out how to get into things on that I make every effort to dog proof in seconds flat. Also....hacking out with JRT coming along....not an option. If there was prey, my JRT would develop selective hearing when called. Since that nearly gave me heart failure when I needed him to come or at least stop running the direction he was going a few times (did I mention that he seemed to be a lucky little b@##%d too?) I never never take my JRT out without a leash. And this same JRT in the house knows how to heel, come, sit, down and the hand signals for all these requests.
Basically, it is like having a 3 year old child with an appetite for destruction that is hopped up on caffiene :lol: I adore this dog now but for the first 10 years of his life, his name was you little b@#%!d. I would definately get one that is a little older if possible to avoid the peak destruction years ;) This is my first JRT....I had owned Shelties and Border Collies before this. I thought that the JRT wouldn't be that big of a difference since BCs can be pretty high energy :rolleyes: Boy was I mistaken ;) Good luck. I hope you find the terriorist of your dreams :D
Moderator 1
Aug. 27, 2009, 05:50 PM
We moved this to ATF since it's not horse-related.
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Bluey
Aug. 27, 2009, 06:49 PM
Raising two puppies together is never a good idea, unless you have a kennel with many dogs and several people to keep the dogs separated some of the time and take the time to train each puppy individually.
Ideally, you should get one puppy raised, best with an already well trained mature dog and then add another dog, puppy or not.
When two puppies raised together mature, too many times to take that chance they end up fighting and one has to be rehomed.
A chance not worth taking, I think.
I know, I know way too many people that ended up with that problem.
I am sure some will say they did fine.
I say their dogs may not yet be older, or they were very lucky.
Get you one puppy, spend all the time you have raising that one puppy right and having fun doing it.
Find another puppy/s living with someone else for yours to play with.:yes:
2ndyrgal
Aug. 27, 2009, 09:43 PM
They will have a special adoption down at the KHP this weekend. Do what you can folks. Grant Co is not as affluent as Lexington, and there are way too many animals. This is a bit of a last minute effort as there is a large euthanasia scheduled for Monday. I normally don't post or pitch stuff like this, seems like everything is always headed for the killers in these posts, the difference is, dozens of these animals won't see the sun set Monday night. If you can foster or adopt even one dog or cat, it would be a good thing. The shelter in Grant County is run almost exclusively on donations, the county budget is pitifully small, and this area has been hard hit by the loss of factory and construction jobs, this equals more animals dropped off and less $$ donated. I'm going to try to contact one of the board members, I'd pay the adoption and neuter fees if someone gives some of them a home, I just can't personally take any of them here myself (Barn cat total at 8 permanent residents and at least 3 "drifters" that I see anywhere from dinner time to once a week or so). There are some wonderful dogs that deserve better than months in a cage with a bad end.
Do what you can. Thank you.
Budrow
Aug. 27, 2009, 11:40 PM
You do not need a JR! Please don't get a dog (or dogs) based on the "Hunter/Jumper"or "Fox Hunting" worlds....JR's are very high maintenance! Small dogs are much more hyper than large dogs...my preference! Gimme a hound-dog anyday!
RacetrackReject
Aug. 28, 2009, 09:23 AM
You know, I'm really tired of some of the bs. This isn't pointed at anyone in particular, but just at people in general.
When I decided that I wanted a JRT, everyone I know told me not to get one, that they were horrible dogs, that I would end up hating it, that my life would miserable with a JRT, etc. I had done my research and I knew that was what I wanted. I was looking to downsize from a large dog into something with a large dog feel to it that would be comfortable on the farm and could possibly do agility or another dog sport. I knew the amount of time I had to devote to the dog and how active my life was and I thought a JRT was a good fit. Well guess what. He was exactly what I thought he would be and now I want another one..lol. And all of those people who told me how horrible JRTs are LOVE my JRT and ask me if I could train theirs for them.
I think that typically people who have trouble with dogs of a certain breed picked a breed that is not suited to their lifestyle or experience. High enery dogs need high energy playing and releases for the energy. If you dont' give them that, they can turn into monsters. So, please don't make broad generalizations about breeds just because you or someone you knew had a bad experience. Take the time to see if you were doing right by the dog before condemning a while breed.
/steps off of soapbox
Sleepy
Aug. 28, 2009, 09:55 AM
I would never tell anyone not to get a JR. But I do have one word of warning that I wish someone had pointed out to me 25 years ago. It would have saved me a world of trouble.
If you get 2, be sure NOT to get 2 females from the same litter. There is a strong tendency to be fratricidal (should that be sister-cidal? ) In any case, female littermates will frequently try to kill each other as they get past puppyhood. And they will not age out of it. My 2 lived into their late teens and had to be kept separated the entire time. I'm not saying all female littermates will do this but the tendency is there and well documented.
Bluey
Aug. 28, 2009, 10:06 AM
I would never tell anyone not to get a JR. But I do have one word of warning that I wish someone had pointed out to me 25 years ago. It would have saved me a world of trouble.
If you get 2, be sure NOT to get 2 females from the same litter. There is a strong tendency to be fratricidal (should that be sister-cidal? ) In any case, female littermates will frequently try to kill each other as they get past puppyhood. And they will not age out of it. My 2 lived into their late teens and had to be kept separated the entire time. I'm not saying all female littermates will do this but the tendency is there and well documented.
That can happen with any mix of sexes, as one family here found out, when their male and female puppies they raised together started fighting seriously.
They rehomed the female, a very hard decision, but better than expecting two dogs that want to kill each other to relax living in the same family.
The last fight she almost killed the male dog, so they were rehabbing him and let her go right then.
I think that those that are warning about getting a dog just because it looks cute running around really mean to say, not that the OP doesn't get any one breed, but that it doesn't do it on impulse or because of the cute factor, but research the breed first well, to be sure it fits in their household.
Over 20 years ago, when JRT started to become popular, one of our horse vets started raising them and sold many for several years.
Eventually he had to start giving them away, as too many people fell in love with the breed, but just could not handle or live with them and people were not wanting one of those any more.
Many of them really are not a quiet lap dog, which is the idea most have of small dogs, but an energizer bunny and that can get old for some families that like their down time.
TheRedFox
Aug. 28, 2009, 10:14 AM
oh the joys of Jack's. Some of the funniest horse stories usually have a jack russell in them at some point. They are damn cute but crazy as absolute hell. I bet you can find someone who would be absolutely willing to give one away at the KY Classique. Seriously though, I hope you find a great little puppy. I would get two if I were you, so they can keep each other entertained. Jack's need to stay busy or its Trouble City.
Sleepy
Aug. 28, 2009, 10:15 AM
Bluey, I totally agree that you shouldn't get any dog just because it looks cute. Although in my 25+ years of JR ownership, I often said it was a good thing they were so cute and funny, otherwise the breed would be extinct!
I now have something less high energy - a BC. :lol:
Renae
Aug. 28, 2009, 10:19 AM
I echo those who are telling you that if you get a Jack be ready to be a drill sargeant of a dog trainer. You can not let anything slip or you will have a horrible dog. If you are a VERY firm, VERY consistent dog trainer you will have a wonderful dog. But if you are not ready to give a cute little puppy some tough love pick a different breed.
Bluey
Aug. 28, 2009, 10:20 AM
Bluey, I totally agree that you shouldn't get any dog just because it looks cute. Although in my 25+ years of JR ownership, I often said it was a good thing they were so cute and funny, otherwise the breed would be extinct!
I now have something less high energy - a BC. :lol:
We trained BCs for working cattle and trialing.
TheBC's energizer bunny working intensity traits are very different than the JRT, that are more spastic and just being busy being busy, not exactly with goals.
The BCs would work like maniacs outside, but once inside, would go to the crate, turn around and plump down, paws on the edge and head on paws, looking sad until someone again went out to work.
Many JRT don't have down time very often, if you are not doing something, they will be doing something on their own and you may not always like what they choose to be involved with.;)
Sleepy
Aug. 28, 2009, 10:28 AM
Many JRT don't have down time very often, if you are not doing something, they will be doing something on their own and you may not always like what they choose to be involved with.;)
That's now my cats' job. I almost prefer them to be helping me knit :eek: because at least I know where they are and what they're doing.
The thought of a Jack with goals (other than killing each other or the cat) just cracks me up. I loffed my Jacks but I was ready for a break. I was actively looking for a Corgi when my Border found me - literally.
appaloosalady
Aug. 28, 2009, 10:43 AM
Before you even think of getting a JRT, please ask the JRT association for their booklet "Why you do NOT want a JRT". It is loaded with unbiased information that will echo quite a lot of what people here have already told you.
I have a neutered male and I love him, but ... he is definitely not the dog for everyone. Being raised with a kitten or puppy does not mean that your darling puppy isn't going to rip it to shreds one day when he/she grows up. It is instinct, as is chasing prey. My JRT ran down a skunk hole to try killing the skunk while out doing chores with my DH one evening. Luckily all he got was a shot of spray in the face. As others have said, my JRT is the best house dog imaginable - he is well trained, well mannered, good with kids and strangers, but get him outside and look out. He will take off in the blink of an eye with no warning and nothing will get him to turn around. All of these things and more are traits that the JRT association will warn you about. Thay don't want more dogs in rescues. Good luck with whatever you decide.
HuntJumpSC
Aug. 28, 2009, 11:13 AM
Try having your JRT manage to get loose from the stall area, and run pell-mell into the arena bouncing right up to GM himself, while you are auditing his clinic. I thought I would die of embarassment, but GM simply said "Poochie! Someone's lost their poochie!" :uhoh:
imapepper
Aug. 28, 2009, 12:23 PM
Try having your JRT manage to get loose from the stall area, and run pell-mell into the arena bouncing right up to GM himself, while you are auditing his clinic. I thought I would die of embarassment, but GM simply said "Poochie! Someone's lost their poochie!" :uhoh:
Now that's funny :lol:
And totally right about how different BCs and JRTs can be even though both are considered very high energy. I have had no problems training or dealing with any of the herding breed dogs that I have owned. My BC and my Sheltie were the worlds best dogs. They are high energy and very focused. My JRT was a whirlwind in his younger years. It's truly like living with a Tasmanian devil :lol: Again....he is cute and I love him to bits....but I like him much better as a wise old dog :D
Mariesonny
Sep. 3, 2009, 08:48 PM
There are plenty of Jack Russels at rescues and shelters. We got our JR/Rat terrier from a local shelter. She was basicly ours for the price of spaying her. When we got her home we found out why someone dumped her. She is A LOT of dog! I swear that dog didn't sleep for the first 2 weeks we had her. I never saw her close her eyes. She is over that now but I still have to spend time tossing balls for her each morning.
Here is a hint we use for easy dog ownership....find a 5 or 6 month old female dog. At that age they are ready to housebreak and can do it in a week or two. Also being female they are less likely to run off. Our Taffy dog was 4 months when we got her and it took her about 2 weeks to housebreak. She still had an accident or two for a few months but she learned very quickly that she needed to do that stuff outside.
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