ON NOW Hunter Derby Finals LIVE!

[jmvwiv]

http://equestrianlife.com/derby/#video


It's on live now! First on course at 8:20am. All 56 to go this morning. Top 25 tomorrow night followed by a Handy course.

They're going over the course design now

This is awesome.

I wont be working at all today!
:lol:

[dghunter]

well I know what I'm doing at my oil change this morning! :D:D

[GreystoneKC]

Lovin' Curtain Call. Looked like he could do it in his sleep, lol. Still waiting to see one be really brilliant, but I'm wondering if many are going to play it a little safe the first day and go all out tomorrow.

[gmv567]

Is there a posted order of go anywhere? Is anyone recording all of the scores?

[GreystoneKC]

I wasn't keeping track of the scores, but I think the order of go is listed under the live feed. Sam Adams just had a nice trip. He had a great forward trip and looked like he was having fun out there.

[gmv567]

Thanks!!!

[Renn/aissance]

Who is the commentator? I was really put off by her extensive commentary on Cabana Boy's stop at the birch oxer.

[jmvwiv]

I think the commentator is Chris Stafford.

[dghunter]

I don't really care for the commentator. I don't know why, just something about it...

[GreystoneKC]

Yes, it says that she is Chris Stafford. "Chris has been an equestrian journalist for over 30 years. Her reporting has included major events such as the Olympic Games, World Equestrian Games, World Cup Finals and European Championships for multiple international print and broadcast outlets. She is also a photographer, producer, director and voice-over artist for TV and video having produced several equestrian TV programs and videos. Chris produced daily coverage of the 2006 World Equestrian Games for HorseTV where she was VP Production and News Director. She also broadcast live radio commentary from the Sydney Olympic Games for the BBC."

I'm not really a fan... At all.

[MistyPony]

Okay I thought it was just me! She was mixing up her leads on the option at jump 1 for the first few horses and I was really confused!!

[rjg2a]

I'm pretty sure the commentator is Lysa Burke Horkan. The british woman is Chris Stafford. She's doing the interviews at the gate.

[GreystoneKC]

Ok so it wasn't ME!!! Those first few horses went and I was like, hmmm... I really thought that was the OTHER lead... But I get dyslexic sometimes about that kind of thing, so I figured *I* was wrong!

[MistyPony]

Ok so it wasn't ME!!! Those first few horses went and I was like, hmmm... I really thought that was the OTHER lead... But I get dyslexic sometimes about that kind of thing, so I figured *I* was wrong!

LOL I thought maybe the feed was somehow a mirror image or something, but then it wasn't consistent...

[dove]

The commentator is Lysa Burke Horkan...and she seems a bit out of her element. I think she usually does jumper commentary when she does it so maybe she's just a little more unfamiliar with the riders and horses.

[Romany]

Thanks for posting the link!

Oy, the commentary is painful, however. :dead:

JMO :)

[ponymom64]

I guess I should consider myself lucky that I can't get the sound this am??

[JumpingBean]

Is there a specific reason for them wearing shadebellys? I notice the men arent. Just wondering :)

[yadayada]

the commentator just said that today's scores won't count at all for tomorow, but don't they have to count for something? otherwise what's the point of the first round?

[MistyPony]

the commentator just said that today's scores won't count at all for tomorow, but don't they have to count for something? otherwise what's the point of the first round?

The top 25 today qualify for tomorrow. All the horses competing tomorrow start on a level playing field (all start with zero score).

[yadayada]

ohh ok thanks!

[Giddy-up]

anybody else having problems with the link posted above??

It didn't want to play the video before, but at least I could check the scores. Now it won't even connect the website. :(

[Renn/aissance]

Giddyup, just keep refreshing the page until you get it. Some days it loads the first time. Other days... not so much.

[GreystoneKC]

What happened to Jersey Boy? I had to go out to the barn for a little while and missed the last 13 horses or so. I had high hopes for him.

[MistyPony]

What happened to Jersey Boy? I had to go out to the barn for a little while and missed the last 13 horses or so. I had high hopes for him.

Jersey Boy hasn't gone yet, did you mean Rock Star? He had some lead change issues.

[QueenMother]

Is there a specific reason for them wearing shadebellys? I notice the men arent. Just wondering :)

Because it's a classic, the appropriate attire for women is a shadbelly. Men never wear shadbellies in hunters.

[GreystoneKC]

Jersey Boy hasn't gone yet, did you mean Roack Star? He had some lead change issues.

Hahaha FAIL! Yes, I meant Rock Star. I was talking about Jersey Boy just before I typed that and must have made a slip! Oops. That's a shame, Rock Star has the most amazing jump.

[Sparky]

Must watch with sound off. Very annoying.

[Tha Ridge]

Lots with lead change issues. That's always an issue in the bigger rings with lines that aren't super direct. It seems like a few riders who normally just rely on their horse for the changes are having issues.

[pds]

I agree with others on the course comentary. Not the best, but I will say I have listened to worse. Imo, she just does not have the right type voice (too nasally) for broadcasting.

The horses and riders are great. I love the course and it is very nice to see this type of FREE broadcast.

[GreystoneKC]

I love the fact that most of the riders are wearing some form of formal attire. I expected them to wear formal tomorrow for sure, but this really gives it a nice air of importance and respect that they are wearing it even for the first round (I have no idea if it was asked for in the PL or not).

[SSFLandon]

anyone else not getting it up? mine won't load... :(

[valencia]

Did anyone see R. Adermie 4 go? How was her round?

[Mara]

OMG, loving Gary Young's horse Colorado. He just flows over the fences.

[SSFLandon]

has Tina Judge gone, anyone know?? since it's keeps timing out...ugh!!

[Puglet]

anyone else not getting it up? mine won't load... :(

mine won't load either.... :(

[Jumperprincess]

This is sooo cool. Any-one know who the judges are?

[GreystoneKC]

AyeKaRUMBA!!!!

[Regal Grace]

mine won't load either.... :(


And I generally don't have problems with live feeds.

[valencia]

AyeKaRUMBA!!!!

Oh my god it's amazing I LOVE it.

[SSFLandon]

mine won't load either.... :(

do you think it's overloaded?

[sansibar]

this lady is really starting to annoy me lol, i need to mute! :O

[pds]

John French and Rumba were flawless. Beautiful!!!!! Score 367 put him at the top thus far of the 25 call back for tomorrow.

[Horseforthecourse]

this lady is really starting to annoy me lol, i need to mute! :O

Yes, because Thoroughbreds are more antsy...lol

[beesknees]

The announcer just said that TB's are much more antsy and that's why they're race horses and not hunter derby horses...common haha!

[Puglet]

do you think it's overloaded?

I'm thinking it may be. I tried both IE and FF. I've been refreshing. At one point I got a MySQL error that there were too many connections.

Come on silly feed, work!

[SSFLandon]

I'm thinking it may be. I tried both IE and FF. I've been refreshing. At one point I got a MySQL error that there were too many connections.

Come on silly feed, work!

I'm dying here!!! guess I'll have to get on extra early tom.

[MistyPony]

has Tina Judge gone, anyone know?? since it's keeps timing out...ugh!!

Nope not yet. She's pretty close to the end.

[tenacity]

John French and Rumba were flawless. Beautiful!!!!! Score 367 put him at the top thus far of the 25 call back for tomorrow.

Yes, and as he said, too bad that score won't carry over to tomorrow!

Agree that the commentator's remarks are getting kind of weird!

Lots of lead issues. Judging seems good. This live feed is just making my day!

[SSFLandon]

is the order the same as the list online??

[MistyPony]

is the order the same as the list online??

Yup.

[Smiles]

Blah blah blah, lady, shout up!!! Tiziano round got one score with 92??? Hmmm o.k.

[GreystoneKC]

OK... I'm a huge Tiziano fan... but did anyone else have a wtf moment with that score? Rumba and Argentum (among others) were much better. Maybe it seemed more smooth in person?

[pds]

I'm dying here!!! guess I'll have to get on extra early tom.


The streaming video feed is a bit grainy which as I understand, would indicate that they are streaming in lower quality which uses less bandwidth and allows for more views on at any one time.

[GreystoneKC]

agreed. I didnt see the brilliance in that course that i saw in peters.

but did anyone elses feed freeze after chases round? he did soo well. loved that ride. hope he makes it to the final rounds! Yay for all the teenagers doing well.

Chase reminded me of a Eq round where the horse looked great too. I liked it very much. Not as brilliant and "huntery" as some of the others, but can't wait to see them go tomorrow!

[katie16]

Looks like less than a dozen to go!

[pds]

Yes, and as he said, too bad that score won't carry over to tomorrow!

Agree that the commentator's remarks are getting kind of weird!

Lots of lead issues. Judging seems good. This live feed is just making my day!

Agree, the judging seems spot on and consistent.

[MintHillFarm]

anyone else not getting it up? mine won't load... :(


It seems to be in perpetual slowmotion on my computer, but I don't have the best connection on Hughes Satellite....it stinks most of the time, and I am being kind.

[3Dogs]

Rumba wowed me. Some nice rounds from many folks. Commentary painful.

[pds]

WOW-the jump blew down just as Tina and Trust Me were approacing. How will the coaches and judges handle this?


Was allowed to start over but swaped his lead right in front of the jump that fell over prior.
Really nice horse. Such a shame.

Score 231.5

[Mel0309]

oh that was too bad for Trust Me - he was super good about it though. Does anyone else find his swinging martingale to be a distraction?

[RxCate]

that jump blowing down should most definitely not count against.

They should start the course over, IMO

[tenacity]

Looks like less than a dozen to go!

Good! I need to get some work done! ;)

That was surprising how that whole jump just blew down! Too bad for Tina Judge to have to start like that, but Trust Me handled it well.

[pwynnnorman]

Hey, folks, does anyone here know if Equestrian Life competes with Club Equestrian for attention or something? I got that "USEF Week in Review" email a moment ago and clicked on the video which I thought would link me to the streaming video Equestrian Life is showing, but I couldnt' find it anywhere--so I posted a critical comment because it just doesn't make sense! This is a GREAT development in the sport, but it's like, gee whiz, what a missed opportunity to expose it to more people than those who happen upon this thread. As I ended that comment, so I'll end this one: Aaaargghhh!

[TrotTrotPumpkn]

Is this going to be broadcast later as well? I will get fired.

[Madeline]

Because it's a classic, the appropriate attire for women is a shadbelly. Men never wear shadbellies in hunters.

Does anyone else think that the tails flapping on the shadbellies is distracting?
I don't think they ever look really nice, but all that waving around...

[superpony123]

wow, I like Trust Me :D what a perfect name! my pony would be like ... WHAT THE HECK WAS THAT I'M NOTTTT COMING NEAR THAT!!

in fact i think i wouldve even kept going after the trees blew down :P ...TECHNICALLY in the real hunt field a tree COULD blow down infront of a fence and become an obstacle ;) but that's just me.

[GreystoneKC]

Shame for Trust Me. Lovely horse. He was such a good sport about it too. I think I'm the only person in hunter-land that doesn't like the look of martingales at all, but I actually didn't catch it on the feed until you mentioned. lol Then it annoyed me.

[Paris]

does anyone know who the videographer is? I'd like to get a copy of this class.

[katie16]

Ugh! How unfortunate for Trust Me. Who knows how it would have gone without that happening.

[Sparky]

Awww Tina--what bad luck. Second jump blew down and they had to wait while it was rebuilt, then start over.

[wyldhorseb]

jersey boyyyy =]

[katie16]

Awww Tina--what bad luck. Second jump blew down and they had to wait while it was rebuilt, then start over.


Not only blew down, but right in front of him! Many of mine would have tried spin and leave!

[pwynnnorman]

Wow, this is some GREAT commentary. I'm sending the link (now) to all my friends. It is sooooo educational for folks to really understand what hunters are about.

Y'know, ages and ages ago, I wrote this pretend vision story about how hunters could be presented. I suspect no one is around now who remembers that--it was almost a decade ago on COTH...but it is just awesome to me that what I wrote (I wish I could find it again) has actually come TRUE!

Kudos to all.

[SSFLandon]

Not only blew down, but right in front of him! Many of mine would have tried spin and leave!

oh shoot poor Tina! so did she start over?? I guess the weather is bad there?!?! I'm not nearby....

[Smiles]

Wow, this is some GREAT commentary.

The british lady is fine but the other lady was terrible. She didn't get leads and other stuff right.

[supershorty628]

When do we get to see some rounds? I really don't care what Bill Moroney has to say...

[farmgirl88]

yes they did have to start over. lovely round by he swapped his lead in front of that fence :(

[superpony123]

When do we get to see some rounds? I really don't care what Bill Moroney has to say...

they just finished for the day :{ you missed the last few rounds.

[supershorty628]

Man... I have terrible timing!

[Dirty Little Secret]

was great to watch the prelims and SOOO excited that i'll be there to watch the finals tomorrow!!!

[pds]

I'm excited for the Handy rounds tomorrow!

[vxf111]

Lots with lead change issues. That's always an issue in the bigger rings with lines that aren't super direct. It seems like a few riders who normally just rely on their horse for the changes are having issues.

Can't watch the live stream (work internet= s-l-o-w) but I have now seen 2 hunter derbies at Devon and overwhelmingly, if there's one problem that shows up frequently, it's leads/lead changes. Which is so ODD. Best riders, best horses-- and there's a lot of wrong lead?! At Devon, the ring's not even that big?

Rock Star sticks out as one who went around quite a lot 2 years ago on the wrong lead (still got a good score?!) and wasn't alone.

Is it just because the lines aren't simple and straightforward? I don't see nearly the same number of lead issues in handy classes and they also have less straightforward lines?! There were more lead issues in the hunter debry 2 years ago with mostly pros up than there were last year in the A/Os with ammies up. I just find it... inexplicable?!

[bizbachfan]

okay I have been away from the show world for many years and just getting back into it and was surprised to see John French's name. I used to ride against the guy back in Maryland when I was a kid, pretty sure its the same guy. He was good then, but wow.... I had no idea, I gather he comes out of CA now. I wishI had ended up where he did instead of working a regular job for a living DARN :)

[TrotTrotPumpkn]

Is this going to be broadcast later as well? I will get fired.

So does anyone know?? Will they offer the final round as a dvd or something later?

[Madison]

The live coverage was awesome! Would have loved to go in person, but since work got in the way of that, I was very glad to be able to multi-task and catch some beautiful rounds. Loved Rumba. There were some gorgeous horses, that is for sure. Makes me want to go out and shop for my next show horse, if only I had the time to ride it!

[beesknees]

they are having live feed tomorrow as well starting at 6:00 pm ET

[pds]

So does anyone know?? Will they offer the final round as a dvd or something later?

It is possible if they captured to tape (rather than just streaming the video) while they were shooting the live coverage.

We just did a Hunter Derby Clinic with Diane Carney. It will become available on www.Horsecity.com (http://www.Horsecity.com) Sept. 1
Three groups - really great training exercises and education. Also included is the course walk with Diane and the Derby rounds from the Hunter Derby at Lamplight. Great stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/user/HorseCity

[katie16]

What a nice break they have - not showing again until 6:00pm tomorrow!

I will be showing tomorrow, but hopefully home in time to catch the handy trips!

[superpony123]

I think the issue with lead changes is likely due to both the ring size (though not an excuse for other rings, like devon) and even more so due to the broken / indirect lines.

What I found interesting is that they're actually rewarding some well-taken long spots, like for tiziano's round. I guess there's 2 sides of the fence for that one, and I can't really decide what I agree with more for scoring on that. Yes, it's good that your horse is very forward, bold, brave, and willing. Even better that the horse took the long spot with style and grace.

On the other hand, it's generally kind of unsafe and a foolish when the fences get a little on the big side, and especially when jumping natural obstacles, like out in the hunt field (though here the jumps are obviously collapsible, the fences in the REAL hunt field are generally solid. you don't want to get their hind legs caught on those solid fences!) if you are continuously taking long spots, it's more effort that the horse needs to exert without necessity, thus a waste of energy.

So it's interesting to see them rewarding the long spots, as i generally see it as a bad move like most.

Can't wait for tomorrow!

[Madison]

On some of the rounds that were rewarded the way Tiziano's was, I would love to hear what people who were there in person thought -- I was left feeling like it was hard to perceive the qualities that were rewarded in the more forward rides over the live feed. Castello and Hardin Towell were another pair that appeared to be rewarded for a more forward/aggressive ride, but didn't necessarily look as smooth to me as some others, though the horse jumped well.

[TrotTrotPumpkn]

It is possible if they captured to tape (rather than just streaming the video) while they were shooting the live coverage.

We just did a Hunter Derby Clinic with Diane Carney. It will become available on www.Horsecity.com (http://www.Horsecity.com) Sept. 1
Three groups - really great training exercises and education. Also included is the course walk with Diane and the Derby rounds from the Hunter Derby at Lamplight. Great stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/user/HorseCity

Cool! Thanks for the info!!

As someone who has bred and is looking to breed again I was bummed that when you clicked on the horse for more information it just said their breed--I want to know BLOODLINES!!

[GreystoneKC]

On some of the rounds that were rewarded the way Tiziano's was, I would love to hear what people who were there in person thought -- I was left feeling like it was hard to perceive the qualities that were rewarded in the more forward rides over the live feed. Castello and Hardin Towell were another pair that appeared to be rewarded for a more forward/aggressive ride, but didn't necessarily look as smooth to me as some others, though the horse jumped well.

I didn't mind the forward/aggressive ride so much... What I didn't like about Tiziano's round was the general inconsistency. I'm not wishing I HAD kept a card while I was watching so I could quote what I saw, but I do remember thinking...deep... long... whoa long... holding...deep...ick. It just didn't flow. Like Ebony's round. I thought that horse had a great, forward, "attack" mode about it, and for the purpose of a Derby, I supported that! I was glad to see they didn't penalize her hard for the "wooba" on the inside turn and brought them back because I look forward to seeing that pair again. Can't speak on Hardin's horse, I actually missed more than half the trip unfortunately.

[Madison]

Greystone, yes, good point. I did feel it was hard to justify Tiziano's score even taking into account rewarding forward ride, but at least they do deserve to be in the top 25 and the slate is clean tomorrow night. And thanks for reminding me about Ebony's round - that was a gorgeous one and what a good horse to just keep rolling with it on the rocky inside turn!

[Diva98]

Sorry if I missed this, but does anyone have a list of the qualifiers for tomorrow night?

[SSFLandon]

Sorry if I missed this, but does anyone have a list of the qualifiers for tomorrow night?


hey i think if you go to the sight it shows the order they finished in...call me if you want

[ponymom64]

I didn't think Tiziano's round was particularly forward - I thought it looked a little quiet and they just missed to a few. There was a looong one that I saw and then one that looked a little chippy. It may have been my computer, however.....

Rumba's round was lovely and did something happen in Argentum's trip? What I saw looked gorgeous and I was surprised that it was scored where it was

[GreystoneKC]

I didn't think Tiziano's round was particularly forward - I thought it looked a little quiet and they just missed to a few. There was a looong one that I saw and then one that looked a little chippy. It may have been my computer, however.....

Rumba's round was lovely and did something happen in Argentum's trip? What I saw looked gorgeous and I was surprised that it was scored where it was

If I remember correctly, Argentum went to the top but then was bested by a cuople that followed him? His was my second favourite trip, to Rumba.

My broadcast also occasionally skipped here and there making it hard for me to tell if something happened in front of the jump or not. Annoying, but I won't complain given that I am getting to watch this lovely live FREE coverage!

Madison, you also had a good point - Tiziano still probably would have still made the second round... with the scores cleared, I guess it doesn't matter where the scores were. lol

[monstrpony]

Not a hunter person at all, but what I liked about Tiziano's round was that he jumped straight, and in the middle of every fence (as best I could see from the live feed); I was supprised by the absence of this in some of the other top horses (i.e., names I recognized from the Chron). So, accuracy. I also liked the adjustability that they demonstrated, though I know consistency is more valued in the hunter world. But in the spirit of the Derby, I thought the adjustability, done smoothly, was a strength. Granted, she did have variability in her spots but nothing that interfered with the flow in a glaring way. And, as a former eventer, I liked the more forward moments.

[3Dogs]

Tiziano's round was perhaps the only one where I thought the commentator made sensible observations - long, short, long, short. Very nice horse, great rider, but from the view I had on the video (which certainly could be tainted by angle) that was not the type of round I would have scored high 80s and 90 on.

Ha, it's still hunters!:lol:

Hope they change the commentator for tomorrow night :yes: (and no, not the english woman doing the interviews!)

[paint hunter]

I only got to watch the last half or so. Wonderful! However, what happened to Jennifer Alfano and Rock Star? They didn't even make the cut.

[supershorty628]

I only got to watch the last half or so. Wonderful! However, what happened to Jennifer Alfano and Rock Star? They didn't even make the cut.

They had some lead change issues.

[NMK]

Coming from eventerland (you know, the dark side) --might it be that the judges are rewarding the type of canter to the type of fence--IE the brush fence can be jumped with more pace, like our steeplechase fences? Maybe they saw the relation of the type of fence to Tiziano's canter for each one. Just a thought from the xc side of the type of different fences we deal with out there.

Nancy

[sandstar]

I missed it...hate work :(
does anyone know if replays?

[Sparky]

To the poster who asked about Argentum's round, I think I remember a very late lead change between fences 1 and 2. Otherwise a beautiful trip.

[ponymom64]

To the poster who asked about Argentum's round, I think I remember a very late lead change between fences 1 and 2. Otherwise a beautiful trip.

Thank you! What I saw looked beautiful but I was trying to work at the same time, so I wondered if I missed something ;)

[3Dogs]

exactly right about the lead change - asked for and didn't happen for several steps - several steps. Otherwise lovely - but still dumbstruck by Rumba!

[babecakes]

The comments below the video display on the live feed page say!!

"Full recording of the complete live stream should be available in the next couple of hours, right here on this page."

YEAH :)

[dogchushu]

I was in and out because of the job. Lucy me, I did get to see Rumba. What a treat that was.

(By the way, thank goodness for the mute button on my phone. It would not have been a good career move to be saying "oooo lovely" repeatedly during a conference call!)

[Bethe Mounce]

I saw the whole thing this morning. Like some posters have mentioned, very few horses had clean changes and/or challenges with their changes. Those who kept a good gallop and stayed forward and straight with riders who kept their balance did well. From the livestream camera angle it often looked like riders were either leaning left or right hence some of the lead swapping before a fence.

I am a huge John French fan. Saw him at Menlo Park not too long ago here in No. Calif.

It was a lovely forward galloping derby course....just as it should be and with a return to the way hunter fences should look like.

In defense of the commentator....she was not informed promptly of the order of go...it changed several times. When you commentate at a show such as this you always have to consider your varied audience...either those present or those watching online. You want everyone to understand what a hunter is and how it's judged. Some people have no clue what a hunter derby is much less the scoring system.

Two things I did notice...only one rider, Louise Serio, when interviewed, thanked those who put this derby together. And only one rider was less than mannerly during her interview. Perhaps she wasn't totally satisfied with her horse or she had more to ride this morning, but really....to be curt and a bit without manners....hmmmm......

[dove]

And only one rider was less than mannerly during her interview. Perhaps she wasn't totally satisfied with her horse or she had more to ride this morning, but really....to be curt and a bit without manners....hmmmm......

I can't say I remember anyone not being polite BUT I'm not sure how humored I would be talking to that lady after a sub par round and having her say "250 was your score, was that the kind of score you were aiming for today?" with a moderately clueless smile on her face. I mean the answer is clearly no, one hopes to do better than 60s from every judge.

I dunno, it just sounded like the ground commentator had a set of questions to ask every predetermined interviewee and she wasn't actually watching...at all. I could see how that would leave me a little peeved!

[Renn/aissance]

I can't say I remember anyone not being polite BUT I'm not sure how humored I would be talking to that lady after a sub par round and having her say "250 was your score, was that the kind of score you were aiming for today?" with a moderately clueless smile on her face. I mean the answer is clearly no, one hopes to do better than 60s from every judge.

I didn't hear the answer to that, but I know I would have been inclined to be a bit sarcastic. "Yes ma'am, I came here to be mediocre and score in the 60's across the board. I love missing swaps and chipping in at big horse shows, even better if I do it at a finals event that's broadcast live over the internet. It's just my idea of fun. I'm so glad you asked, bless your heart."

I did like that Louise Serio was so quick to thank everyone who made the Derby a possibility.

[JOBEAN]

When's the replay?? Some of us have a stupid job and cant watch the stream...I hate when my job gets in the way of stuff...

[ponymom64]

I didn't hear the answer to that, but I know I would have been inclined to be a bit sarcastic. "Yes ma'am, I came here to be mediocre and score in the 60's across the board. I love missing swaps and chipping in at big horse shows, even better if I do it at a finals event that's broadcast live over the internet. It's just my idea of fun. I'm so glad you asked, bless your heart."

I did like that Louise Serio was so quick to thank everyone who made the Derby a possibility.

hahaha - Renn, you are too funny! :)

[juniormom]

This was so much fun to watch! My feed kept going in and out too and I was on early. I think they were more harsh in their scoring near the end. I am glad that they had multiple judges. Isn't it unusual to have them in different areas for the hunters? I was always told that they like to score them from the same vantage point so they "see the same thing." However, the quarter horses do it this way and I think it gives people
a "more fair score." They should have multiple judges for all finals.

If any of the top 25 are "unsound" tomorrow, will they move up any of the others? Just wondered......... a couple of those in the next few had pretty rounds and I thought had very similar rounds to some of the others. :)

[bizbachfan]

I am still amazed to find out that John French is such a big star! I know you all probably think thats funny but I have been w/o COTH for many years and just relaxing trailriding for the longest time and just getting back into hunters and showing. My sister and I showed with John 25-30 years ago when he rode a cute little roan mare that he was really too big for. He was a good rider back then but my sister used to beat him nearly every week on her quarter pony. Wow he has come a long way, will be rooting for John and Rumba tmrw night.

[CenterStage123]

Is anyone able to replay it yet? I missed the first half and would like to be able to see it. They said it would be up late last night or early this morning, and now its late morning.:mad:

[findeight]

I can't say I remember anyone not being polite BUT I'm not sure how humored I would be talking to that lady after a sub par round and having her say "250 was your score, was that the kind of score you were aiming for today?" with a moderately clueless smile on her face. I mean the answer is clearly no, one hopes to do better than 60s from every judge.

I dunno, it just sounded like the ground commentator had a set of questions to ask every predetermined interviewee and she wasn't actually watching...at all. I could see how that would leave me a little peeved!


Welcome to televised sports. You asked for it, You got it. Unfortunately it comes with post competition interviews like "how did you feel after you dropped what would have been the winning pass at the 3 yard line","will striking out one run down in the bottom of the ninth with bases loaded and the count 3-0 at one point bother you" or even one I actually heard "did falling off the high bar into the grandstand bother you"?

I will try to catch this later today...that work thing was in the way yesterday. Always remember it's pace and that trumps any kind of pre set notion of distance and even lead changes, keeping it dead on will get the highest score.

Agree with the eventer on the selection of appropriate spots too, depends on what you are jumping and what's next as well as keeping that pace. Fiddling with a lead is going to kill whatever you have pacewise, you have to keep going.

[equestrianlife.com]

www.equestrianlife.com/derby ... check out the leaderboard which shows the scores from Round 1 and the top 25 qualifiers

[equestrianlife.com]

Hi everyone, we are working to get a taped version up for you to view. Tune into the LIVE Coverage tonight of the final two rounds of the 2009 International Hunter Derby Finals from Lexington, KY. 6:00pm/ET, 3:00pm/PT at www.equestrianlife.com/derby

[Renn/aissance]

Equestrianlife, are you planning on releasing a taped version of tonight's events as well?

[Wedonit]

Didn't get to watch during work yesterday but watching tonight. Do I just keep hitting refresh until I see some video start playing?

[shmeg<33]

It's on!

[equitationlane]

It won't load!!!

[TrotTrotPumpkn]

It won't load!!!

Ditto

[3Dogs]

watching the jog. Rumba is quite a big boy - anyone know his breeding - I am betting Holsteiner but ? #32 is quite small :lol: - who is that?

[Wedonit]

I'm in -- just watching the b-roll of jogs from earlier in the day. You're not missing much if you can't get on yet.

[Ethan & Ella's Mom]

I can't get it either, and my trainer is 4th to go!! AAAHHHHH!!

ETA that I now have it but they are just showing what I guess is the soundness jog.

[GreystoneKC]

Oh no no no no no Why isn't it working??? It worked fine yesterday!!!!

[Smiles]

Commercials and g.m is up next.

[pleasedaspunch]

Have my fingers crossed for Ebony, Rachel, and Holly!! Good luck guys!!

[jewll27]

what Im watching is some terrible music and clips from the previous rounds!!

[Smiles]

Have my fingers crossed for Ebony, Rachel, and Holly!! Good luck guys!!

Yes I hope justmagic's pony rocks the handy round!!!

[shmeg<33]

I'm with you Jewll.:)


ETA: Now it's GM!

[Smiles]

g.ms on now so it won't be long.

[superpony123]

dont worry for those that can't get it up yet.

it's was just reruns of yesterday (little clips of good trips) and now theyre' talking with GM. then there's some commercials.

before it didn't load for me either but i just opened a new page and it works now.

[TrotTrotPumpkn]

dont worry for those that can't get it up yet.

it's was just reruns of yesterday (little clips of good trips) and now theyre' talking with GM. then there's some commercials.

before it didn't load for me either but i just opened a new page and it works now.

Cool. i actually had to go find my laptop. PC must be too old to do streaming video or something.

I see GM!

[Bethe Mounce]

George is just plain good in front of the camera....he is always the consummate gentleman. The way he delivers his thoughts always amazes me. I hope he lives forever!!!!

[TrotTrotPumpkn]

who is the woman interviewing GM?

Is that Chris Stafford?

[Smiles]

The british lady from yesturday. Chris stafford

[dogchushu]

Didn't load for me either the first time. Closed out my browser and tried again. Then it worked.

All ready with drink in hand and my new 22" screen! Yippee!

[3Dogs]

Disagree with GM right now - my mother was best child rider at Devon in the 30's on a horse she fox hunted in the winter - and not "hill topping"
harumph

[superpony123]

who is the woman interviewing GM?

Is that Chris Stafford?

nope, lysa burke

[dove]

Is the camera very nice to Bobby Murphy or is he actually quite attractive? It's just such an anomaly - I'm having a hard time trusting my eyes haha

[Bethe Mounce]

I believe so, it's not Lisa Burke. Lisa is American.

[superpony123]

Is the camera very nice to Bobby Murphy or is he actually quite attractive? It's just such an anomaly - I'm having a hard time trusting my eyes haha

:D glad i'm not the only one thinking that! ;)

[3Dogs]

no, that is Chris Stafford interviewing. Lysa Burke Hogan was doing the commentary during the actual rounds.

[Bethe Mounce]

Is the camera very nice to Bobby Murphy or is he actually quite attractive? It's just such an anomaly - I'm having a hard time trusting my eyes haha

He is "easy" on the eyes! That hair!!!!!!!!!! :-)

[TrotTrotPumpkn]

The tree jump is awesome.

[Ethan & Ella's Mom]

Did anyone else lock up during the interview?

Nevermind, got it back.

[jewll27]

who is louise serio showing? I dont see her name on the bottom list?

[Horseforthecourse]

AHHHH, the video came up fine yesterday on the computer I'm on now, but won't come up today. Very frustrating...

[superpony123]

I believe so, it's not Lisa Burke. Lisa is American.

oh, oops. i was just reading below, lysa burke is doing the comentating. This is the other lady. I don't know who that is :) my bad!

[shmeg<33]

Louise Serio is showing Concerto

[Bethe Mounce]

Louise Serio has lost a serious amount of weight from the last time I saw her. I look for her or John French to finish 1 and 2. I have always loved how Louise rides...I so remember that horse, Red Panda....he never went with that standing martingale and was allowed to jump his style.....I am just a fan of the horse going to the jump with less "stuff" on him. And I am more enamored of the American Thoroughbred than the warmbloods in the jumping arenas. This hunter thing is tough.....it's an art and my hat is off to those who do this. I cannot imagine 8-12 jumping efforts in perfect cadence, rhythum and style! I'd never make it! :-)

[Smiles]

Would they just start this already... :dead:

[BlueBobRadar]

I can't get it to come up! :(

[Tha Ridge]

Is the camera very nice to Bobby Murphy or is he actually quite attractive? It's just such an anomaly - I'm having a hard time trusting my eyes haha

He's even better in person, believe me. :yes:

[superpony123]

NOOO! i just had to switch computers and it's taking forever to load on this computer :cry: and i think it's about to start! crap! it says there's a server overload! CRAP!!!!!! i shouldve left it on my laptop and brought it down here...

[pwynnnorman]

Is that why the server isn't being found? They just haven't started yet? But then why can't I get to the EquestrianLife homepage either?

I hope my friends don't give up trying to see it, thinking I sent them a bad link.

[Bethe Mounce]

I am delighted to see that the course provides options and they are all jumps from back in the day. Sure it's technical to a certain extent but the rider gets to choose which fences will show off their horse to its best. A huge thanks to Equestrian Life for allowing this to be online....couldn't get away from Calif to see this in person! And a huge thanks to all the sponsors who gave their time and finances to see this come to fruition! Perhaps next year ya'll would like to have this in Calif????????? I can pretty much guarantee beautiful weather!

[Diva98]

I am so bummed out...I keep getting error messages every time I try to bring the site up. Is anyone else having trouble?

[superpony123]

Is that why the server isn't being found? They just haven't started yet? But then why can't I get to the EquestrianLife homepage either?

I hope my friends don't give up trying to see it, thinking I sent them a bad link.

no, i had it playing before. i switched computers, and now i cant get it to run! it says too many people are on. >:[

[Bella'sMom]

I can't get to the site either.....

[Smiles]

Jacks round was nice.

[paint hunter]

Does it look there is an absence of spectators in the grandstands? I'd love to be there!

[superpony123]

WAIT JUST GOT IT ! YES

[hj0519]

Is that why the server isn't being found? They just haven't started yet? But then why can't I get to the EquestrianLife homepage either?

I hope my friends don't give up trying to see it, thinking I sent them a bad link.

They have started...the first rider just went.

[valencia]

I feel like this many people should have been anticipated and I'm really bummed that the server isn't big enough.

[BlueBobRadar]

This is so frustrating; I had really wanted to see this! Is anyone able to see it? Is there any live scoring?

[TrotTrotPumpkn]

So no crowd noise or hoof beats--all commentary in a silent room :-(

[beesknees]

okayyyyy I'm so glad the commentator is counting strides for us AND doesn't remember the course at all lol! uggg, *muted*

[hasahorse]

I can't get the live scoring or the video. Very frustrated as I am stuck in Northern California and I've been away from horses for 2 weeks.

[BlueBobRadar]

IT'S WORKING!!! :)

[TrotTrotPumpkn]

This is so frustrating; I had really wanted to see this! Is anyone able to see it? Is there any live scoring?

Costello 344 points

Dobbs on Accord? 344 oooh wait 328 announcer wrong not me

[superpony123]

it works! go to the main site for equestrianlife and try from there. that worked for me

[BlueBobRadar]

Agreed about the commentary...

[Wedonit]

okayyyyy I'm so glad the commentator is counting strides for us AND doesn't remember the course at all lol! uggg, *muted*

She can't see the ring from where she is. She's watching it on monitors. Live broadcasting is harder than you might imagine. I think she's a good commentator. I remember her from ESPN Grands Prix for years and years. She's also a very accomplished rider from a family of horse show royalty. I vote for being a little more respectful about the job she's trying to do under difficult circumstances.

[TweedADeedle]

Is driving me nuts!!!

[BlueBobRadar]

It would be cool if the had rider/horse bios. I don't know if they did yesterday, but just an idea...

**Oops now they have some. Cool!**

[Smiles]

Mute button is on. She can't even get the riders and horses right. Another nice round.

[Diva98]

Argh! I still can't get on. So frustrated!!!!

[SpiritInTheSkye]

Foreign Encounter - 346 beautiful trip & nice ride by Laura Pfeiffer

[beesknees]

She can't see the ring from where she is. She's watching it on monitors. Live broadcasting is harder than you might imagine. I think she's a good commentator. I remember her from ESPN Grands Prix for years and years. She's also a very accomplished rider from a family of horse show royalty. I vote for being a little more respectful about the job she's trying to do under difficult circumstances.


that's fine, but she doesnt need to count each horse's strides for me and I'm also watching it from a monitor, but after the first ride *I* knew that the squirrel tales weren't until later

[Tha Ridge]

Absolutely loved Ebony's round... Bummer about that last fence.

[Smiles]

Ebony looked nice... :yes:

[LH]

is it stuck? did we crash the server?

[beesknees]

I did like the horse pooping comment haha!

[superpony123]

ah thats too bad about argentum!!!

i really like him. he had a great round yesterday

[BlueBobRadar]

Oh no Argentum! Spooky to jump 8 and took the 4' options but knocked the first rail...

[3Dogs]

commentary driving me nuts

Foreign Affair had a really lovely round. Peter pulled a rail - yikes

[SpiritInTheSkye]

Rachel Kennedy & Ebony 329
Peter Pletcher & Argentum.....a little spook & rail down 209

[HorsesinHaiti]

I get the impression that the commentator is trying to explain things specifically for a non-hunter, maybe even non-horse riding, audience.

If you're waiting for a connection, the power swap in a few minutes will throw me off an a spot will open up ;)

[TrotTrotPumpkn]

I LOVE this horse....Falcon? I'd love to know his breeding. Beautiful ride.

[GreystoneKC]

So sad about Argentum. He was one of my faves! Ebony seemed a little rough, but I'm rooting for them to make the cut!

Jen W. OWNS. IMHO *that* is what this class is all about!!! Come on pros, don't let the junior show you up! ;-)

[3Dogs]

but here's the problem with the commentary - LBH misses that Falcon was too long to the oxer, rough on his changes, and got a 315 - although she thought he would go to the top.

Nice horse with a kid

[superpony123]

did i hear a 381 or 391? either way.. WOW!

[3Dogs]

Jersey Boy - 391 - wowowowoowoowowow

[bf1]

I just lost it - is anyone else having problems?

[Tha Ridge]

but here's the problem with the commentary - LBH misses that Falcon was too long to the oxer, rough on his changes, and got a 315 - although she thought he would go to the top.

Nice horse with a kid

Yep. I thought the changes were way overridden although the horse is obviously a great character.

[Arado*TB]

WOW.....Jersey Boy

[GreystoneKC]

but here's the problem with the commentary - LBH misses that Falcon was too long to the oxer, rough on his changes, and got a 315

I gotta say though.. in defense of that trip... So Tiziano can be all over the place and get great scores, but this one, not so much? I didn't catch a long oxer that wasn't off a good gallop, so maybe I missed that, but the change didn't bother me so much. Especially here. That's not what this is all about. It's about a forward gallop, keeping pace, and going for it. The horse jumped brilliantly, had a HUGE open gallop, and was super handy. If that's not what this class is about, then I guess I just have it wrong.

I don't like the commentator AT ALL, but I still think J.W. got ripped.

[Wedonit]

but here's the problem with the commentary - LBH misses that Falcon was too long to the oxer, rough on his changes, and got a 315 - although she thought he would go to the top.

I'm sure you would do so much better!

[Arado*TB]

She is going to wear out her teeth;)

[superpony123]

maui is GORGEOUS!!!! i want i want i want

then again, i want pretty much all these horses :D

[BlueBobRadar]

381 for Jersey Boy = Wow! That was beautiful! I loved that last jump!

[graciegrey]

arrgh..why do I only see a black box where the video should be??? Is this the correct address when the video is running? http://equestrianlife.com/derby/555/

[3Dogs]

I don't have no intent nor desire to be a commentator - but there are many folks who just might do a better job - this is the FIRST final - no offense meant but the errors have been huge and it bothers me. Sorry!

Give it meaning - pick up what separates a great round from a not so great - I watched other derbies with live feed and whoever did those - and I can't remember - commented on how the horses jump, etc. with some degree of expertise. I know this person has expertise riding - and very well too - but dang -

nevermind, I will stop kvetching -

[fxhillfarm]

should be
http://equestrianlife.com/derby/#video

[GreystoneKC]

Props to K. K. She handled that interview very well.

[superpony123]

howcome some riders are wearing white pants?? is it okay for men or something? it looked like peter was wearing them :eek: i think chase is too. isn't that inappropriate for hunter classics on women, though?

[To the MAX]

I really wish she would stop counting strides!

[valencia]

It still isn't working for me. I am very sad haha.

[supershorty628]

Lovely round by Chase...

Edit: White breeches are formal attire for men in hunter classics, as they do not wear shadbellies.

[pleasedaspunch]

I loooovvveedd Graphiq:yes:

[dove]

howcome some riders are wearing white pants?? is it okay for men or something? it looked like peter was wearing them :eek: isn't that inappropriate for hunter classics on women?

It's fine for men and considering Peter is a man, it's perfectly appropriate.

[BlueBobRadar]

Lovely round by Chase...

Ditto!

[SpiritInTheSkye]

uh oh Westview cross cantering

[Bella'sMom]

Love watching.....but had to turn the sound off.

[GreystoneKC]

Chase's round was beautiful but I'd love to see that horse go forward. It looked like slow motion! Not really my idea for a Derby Final. lol

Who cares if the riders are wearing white pants? White is formal attire. What better excuse is there for hunter riders to wear white? Why should jumpers have all the fun?

[Smiles]

Peter's night is not going well at all.

[monalisa]

Is anyone else having trouble? I can't get on to the site at all, even just the equestrianlife.com site. Sigh! I wanted to see at least part of it...

[beesknees]

poor Peter tonight!

[BlueBobRadar]

Westview crosscantered the corner... and a hard rub w/ another late change...

[superpony123]

poor peter! he's not having as good of a day today so far. i hope his next 2 have awesome rounds!

not that i'd do a fabulous job of commentating but i wish she would stop counting the strides for everything!! ahh! and shes being a little too obvious sometimes. "this is a gelding. a boy" .. NO, REALLY? not for nothing, but i doubt any non horse people are watching this

[GreystoneKC]

Peter's night is not going well at all.

No... :(

:::keeps fingers crossed for Rumba:::

[Wedonit]

I just think that our sport is decades behind other sports for marketing and media savvy on the whole. It's got a lot of catching up to do. And in the hunters? Who would have ever thought that anyone would ever even want to watch them for 2 seconds let alone a whole special broadcast?

I hate when I see bandwagons form and I feel like one is forming against this commentator (I read this whole thread since yesterday). Can you ride better than Lisa Burke? I sure can't. Have you seen the things/sat on the horses she has? I haven't. Could you (the universal you -- not picking on anyone personally) eloquently explain why a swap off is going to take points off? Probably not. Go ahead and try to explain hunters to your average person. It's not easy. Sure you can point and laugh and harshly critique a commentator who isn't even looking at the ring live. But I think that's just way too easy.

I would like to see more people challenge themselves to be supportive. It might get more of these kinds of broadcasts -- which I am betting everyone would like.

[Smiles]

How many are left to go?

[BlueBobRadar]

Forbes took the 4' option and pulled a rail...

[paint hunter]

Do the top 12 come back with a clean slate or do their round two scores carry over?

[dove]

Wedonit, I don't think anyone is commenting on Lysa Burke's skills outside the room she's commentating in right now.

I think she's doing a lot better commentating today as opposed to yesterday. I think the main issue yesterday was that sometimes she seemed to not entirely be paying attention. She seems to be a little more attentive and therefore commentating better today.

[superpony123]

ahh! jenny's helmet strap definitely just came off on-course! :eek: haha that would distract me so much if that happened to me. major props to all these riders!

i love those squirrel jumps!!

[supershorty628]

Crossing my fingers for Rumba!!!

That was GORGEOUS!

[LH]

I think Lysa is getting into the groove as the class goes on - it's tough and somewhat unfair that she's not ringside with the monitors there. She knows as much if not more than any other commentator.

[BlueBobRadar]

Rumbas on course!

[monalisa]

For those of us who can't get on the site, how many are left, and who is definitely making the second round? Please?

[dauphine2]

Suprising number of 'not perfect' rounds. I mean this in a good way if thay makes any sense. I'm just really glad to see some real proof that they really are making these courses hard! I've never had a chance to watch an entire derby before.

At this point I would just take the coop option instead of the 4'.



Woah - Rumba's round is amazing so far.

Who's your favorite to win?

[Arado*TB]

Lovely .....What a nice horse

[Smiles]

Rumba looked very lovely. Just a little head shaking here and there.

[superpony123]

i hope rumba just got a winning score! what a PERFECT horse! jersey boy had an awesome round too. can't wait for the score

the cheering sounds assuring!

ETA! 400!

congrats john :D i love his silver collars on the jacket. classy!

[Tha Ridge]

Rumba. :eek: :yes:

[SpiritInTheSkye]

Rumba jumped stellar! a little bit of head shake freshness but boy was it great.... 400!!!

[shmeg<33]

I WANT RUMBA.
400!!!!

That's amazing!!

[GreystoneKC]

I hate when I see bandwagons form and I feel like one is forming against this commentator (I read this whole thread since yesterday). Can you ride better than Lisa Burke? I sure can't. Have you seen the things/sat on the horses she has? I haven't. Could you (the universal you -- not picking on anyone personally) eloquently explain why a swap off is going to take points off? Probably not. Go ahead and try to explain hunters to your average person. It's not easy. Sure you can point and laugh and harshly critique a commentator who isn't even looking at the ring live. But I think that's just way too easy.

I would like to see more people challenge themselves to be supportive. It might get more of these kinds of broadcasts -- which I am betting everyone would like.

I don't know much of this woman, so I won't say which one of us rides better, though I'm quite sure she has more experience. Can I explain a swap and why it's a fault, yes. Can I explain hunters to the average person, yes. It's what I do. As someone who very much wants to be a judge, I could probably write a book explaining all of this. I take my students to Devon every year and try to teach them judging. Personally, I DO think I could do a better job commentating, and would welcome the chance. At least I would know WHICH lead a horse was on! lol No bandwagon hopping here for me, nothing personal to her, but I just don't think she's doing a great job.

OMG RUMBA BLOWS MY MIND!!!!!!

[beesknees]

400!!!!!!!

[ChampionMercedes]

WOW Rumba is amazing. What a horse. So nice and consistent both days.

[BlueBobRadar]

12 left, Jersey Boy, Foreign Encounter, Castello, Ebony, Accord, and Graphiq are definitely making the second round.


**Rumba got a 400!**

[Tha Ridge]

100, 99, 102, and 99 for Rumba! Sheesh.

[3Dogs]

RUMBA!!!! A Danish Warmblood - wish they would give us breeding!

[Sunny Side Up]

RUMBA
:o :o :o
400?! JEEZ.
John French is just SOO amazing!! He's such a beautiful rider! He's from my area too :D YAY
That was awesome!