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karin o
Aug. 9, 2009, 05:46 PM
Live and Deceased/ World wide

A list was started on another thread, can you all add your candidates ? If any corrections are needed, spelling etc please chime in, and I'd like to keep the choices within the CDI/International level. Maybe someone could add the Breeds.

Lingh
Idocus
Art Deco
Master
Tip Top
Leonidas
Admiral
Briar
Tiamo Trocadero
Hexagon's Louisville
Hexagon's Ollright
Jazz

cheekyhorse
Aug. 9, 2009, 06:39 PM
these ones are all Trakehner and some are deceased. (these are all the ones I could think of off the top of my head, I know there are many more I've forgotten though. )

Herzberg
Peron
Biotop
TCN Partout
Axis
Windwalzer
Enrico Caruso
Kostolany
Gribaldi
Caprimond

Surviving the Dramas
Aug. 9, 2009, 07:54 PM
From our side of the hemisphere:

Landioso and Donnerwind (CDI***) both ridden by Jody Hartstone.

Regardez Moi from Aus ridden by Heath Ryan in Vegas. Actually - I think there are a couple more Aussies as well - won't be long before Jive Magic (Jazz) is up there too

VolteVT
Aug. 9, 2009, 08:44 PM
Leonberg
Nebelhorn

Hopalong
Aug. 9, 2009, 09:30 PM
Ferro
Gribaldi

StarDoozer
Aug. 9, 2009, 11:17 PM
Olivier. :-)

Coreene
Aug. 9, 2009, 11:31 PM
Ollright is not a stallion.

Forte
Aug. 9, 2009, 11:37 PM
There's lots of them. Off the top of my head.
Blu Hors Don Schufro
Blu Hors Romanov
Vincent (By Weltmeyer)
Wie Weltmeyer
Jazz
Cocktail
Krack C
Relevant
Rohdiamant
De Niro
Donnerhall
Wild Dance

Forte
Aug. 9, 2009, 11:39 PM
Kingston
Rheirattack

Holeson
Aug. 10, 2009, 12:04 AM
Rubinstein
Ferro
Lancet

caddym
Aug. 10, 2009, 06:15 AM
Painted Black.

I think it would be interesting to included the breeding of all these guys. For instance:

that Olivier is by Idocus

That Tip Top is by Master ( as is my beloved Caddymaster)

And Ling and I believe Krak C are by Flemming (also Salinaro and Regent and Be Se)

And of course there will be a handful of Donnerhalls

DownYonder
Aug. 10, 2009, 06:53 AM
I didn't know that Romanov was already at the CDI GP level. Good for him!

Another one that may qualify is Diamond Hit (by Don Schufro). I am pretty sure he is now at GP, but am not sure if he has shown at the CDI level.

Marydell
Aug. 10, 2009, 07:03 AM
Don Principe did a CDI GP this year.
Relevant
Rohdiamont (possibly Royal Diamond as well?)
Pik L

Maryanna Haymon
www.marydellfarm.com
2007 USEF Breeder of the Year!

sid
Aug. 10, 2009, 07:27 AM
Rampal
Boleem

Both are Dutch

karin o
Aug. 10, 2009, 09:26 AM
Cut and paste this list to add info....

Lingh/ Flemmingh
Idocus
Art Deco
Master
Tip Top/Master
Kingston/ Burgraff
Leonidas
Admiral
Briar
Tiamo Trocadero/ Trapper
Hexagon's Louisville / Burgraff
Jazz
Olivier/ Idocus
Leonberg
Nebelhorn
Landioso
Donnerwind (CDI***) both ridden by Jody Hartstone.
Regardez Moi
Herzberg
Peron
Biotop
TCN Partout
Axis
Windwalzer
Enrico Caruso
Kostolany
Gribaldi
Caprimond
Ferro

Blu Hors Don Schufro
Blu Hors Romanov
Vincent / Weltmeyer
Wie Weltmeyer
Cocktail
Krack C/Flemmingh
Relevant
Rohdiamant
De Niro
Donnerhall
Wild Dance
Rheirattack
Rubinstein
Ferro
Lancet
Painted Black.

Don Principe (did a CDI GP this year)
Relevant
Rohdiamont (possibly Royal Diamond as well?)
Pik L Grand Prix?
Romanov
Rampal
Boleem

sid
Aug. 10, 2009, 10:13 AM
Boleem and Rampal are alive and still breeding. Incidentally, they are both the same age. Computer illiterate that I am, I can't cut and paste.

Coreene
Aug. 10, 2009, 10:23 AM
Caddy, Salinero is by Salieri.

StarDoozer
Aug. 10, 2009, 11:00 AM
Lingh (Flemmingh x Columbus by Lucky Boy xx) http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=27525

Krack C (Flemmingh x Beaujoulais by Lucky Boy xx) http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=1460

Idocus (Equador x Zonneglans) http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=1092
Art Deco (by Samber) http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=22956
Master
Tip Top/Master
Kingston (Voltaire x Burggraaf) http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=19162
Leonidas
Admiral
Briar
Tiamo Trocadero/ Trapper
Hexagon's Louisville (Burggraaf x Vesins xx) http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=29873

Jazz (Cocktail x Ulster) http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=1186
Olivier (Idocus x Porter) http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=7261
Leonberg
Nebelhorn
Landioso
Donnerwind (CDI***) both ridden by Jody Hartstone.
Regardez Moi
Herzberg
Peron
Biotop
TCN Partout
Axis
Windwalzer
Enrico Caruso
Kostolany
Gribaldi
Caprimond
Ferro (Ulft x Farn) http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=796

Blu Hors Don Schufro
Blu Hors Romanov
Vincent / Weltmeyer
Wie Weltmeyer
Cocktail

Relevant
Rohdiamant
De Niro
Donnerhall
Wild Dance
Rheirattack
Rubinstein
Lancet
Painted Black.

Don Principe
Relevant
Rohdiamant (possibly Royal Diamond as well?)
Pik L
Romanov
Rampal
Boleem

Eclectic Horseman
Aug. 10, 2009, 11:02 AM
Cut and paste this list to add info....

Pik L Grand Prix?


Yes, Pik L has done some Grand Prix, although very late in his career.

Don't forget the late Selle Francais stallion Galant du Serein, too.

http://horsesunlimited.us/Stallions.asp

Aaron Janicki
Aug. 10, 2009, 11:07 AM
blue hors cavan

imajicadutch
Aug. 10, 2009, 11:32 AM
Unkenruf (TK)

Rooty
Aug. 10, 2009, 02:24 PM
Roemer
Gaugin de Lully

seeing as we including deceased, although ISF is no longer selling Roemer semen, I'm not sure if there is any Gaugin de Lully left.

selah
Aug. 10, 2009, 02:29 PM
Parabol

freestyle2music
Aug. 10, 2009, 03:08 PM
Darwin
Junior
Totilas ;)

Goffert
Adel

Democraat

mbp
Aug. 10, 2009, 03:16 PM
I'm going to add from StarDoozer's post, and also start a little regrouping, by "family"

Lingh (Flemmingh x Columbus by Lucky Boy xx) http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=27525
Krack C (Flemmingh x Beaujoulais by Lucky Boy xx) http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=1460

Idocus (Equador x Zonneglans) http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=1092
Olivier (Idocus x Porter) http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=7261

Cocktail KWPN (Purioso [who had three sons go to the Olympics –jumping & dressage] x Le Val Blancxx)
Jazz (Cocktail x Ulster) http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=1186

Art Deco (by Samber) http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=22956
Kingston (Voltaire [like Purioso a Furioso II son] x Burggraaf) http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=19162
Hexagon's Louisville (Burggraaf [whose grandsire and dam's grandsire were both xx]x Vesins xx) http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=29873

Ferro (Ulft x Farn) http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=796


Master SW (Ceylon x Iran) http://www.swanaoffice.org/Stallions/stallion_Master.aspx
Tip Top SW (Master x Chagall) http://www.swanaoffice.org/Stallions/stallion_Tip%20Top.aspx
Amiral SW (Napoleon x Flamingo[Amiral and Flamingo were both Olympic horses IIRC]) http://www.swanaoffice.org/Stallions/stallion_Amiral.aspx
Briar SW (Magini x Krocket) http://www.swanaoffice.org/Stallions/stallion_Briar.aspx


Leonidas Trak (Condus x Siegbert) http://www.americantrakehner.com/stallions/Leonidas.asp


Tiamo Trocadero/ Trapper
Nebelhorn Han (Nebelwerfer x Duft) http://www.equine.vt.edu/Nebel.html
Lancet Han (Wenzel x Shogunxx) http://www.superiorequinesires.com/stallions/lancet.htm

Leonberg

Landioso
Donnerwind (CDI***) both ridden by Jody Hartstone.
Regardez Moi
Herzberg
Peron
Biotop
TCN Partout
Axis
Windwalzer
Enrico Caruso
Kostolany
Gribaldi
Caprimond

Blu Hors Don Schufro
Blu Hors Romanov
Vincent / Weltmeyer
Wie Weltmeyer


De Niro
Donnerhall
Wild Dance
Rheirattack
Rubinstein GOV (Rosenkavalier x Angelo XX) http://www.horsemagazine.com/BREEDINGBARN/GREAT_STALLIONS/RUBINSTEIN/rubinstein.html

Relevant GOV?(Rubenstein x Goldlowe) http://www.superiorequinesires.com/stallions/relevant.htm
Rohdiamant GOV? (Rubenstein x Inschallah) http://www.stallions-online.net/stallions/stallions_rubenstien_rohdiamant.shtml
(possibly Royal Diamond as well?)

Painted Black.

Don Principe

Pik L
Romanov
Rampal
Boleem
__________________

I'm giving up for now, maybe someone else can tackle all the D's and W's.

TKR
Aug. 10, 2009, 05:47 PM
Edelweiss de Bonce? I know he was GP in Europe, don't know if CDI or not.
PennyG

stolensilver
Aug. 10, 2009, 08:03 PM
More trakehner stallions who qualify for the list. :)

Fabian (Donauwind/Maharadscha)
Peron TSF (Mahagoni/Cocktail)
Partout (Arogno/Donauwind)
Biotop (Blesk/Hockey)
EH Heuriger (Herzbube/Kurfurst)
Glanzlicht (Ordensglanz/ Consul)
Latimer(? I think he got to GP) (Saint Cloud/Caprimond)
Leonidas (Condus/Siegbert)
Pepel (Pilgrim)
EH Munchhausen (Hohenstein/Konigstein)
EH Gribaldi (Kostolany/Ibikus)
EH Monteverdi (Partout/Matador)
EH Ravel (Mahagoni/Donauwind)
Kronjuwel (Matador/Mazagran)
EH Van Deyk (Patricius xx/Ibikus)
Kaiserkult and Kasierdom (EH Van Deyk/Gajus)
Schwadroneur (Arogno/Ibikus)
Solero (Hyllos/Polargeist)
Lions-Club (Ferrum/Matador)
Acartenango (Pogremok/Eskadron)
Hailo (Anduc/Thor)
Charly Chaplin (Mackensen/Neuquen)
Insterburg (Hohenstein/Giorgio Armani)
Perechlest (Hockey/Papirus)
King Arthur (Buddenbrock/Consul)

And some who are up and coming:
Axis (Sixtus/Angard)
Karolinger I (Latimer/Hohenstein)
Le Rouge (Pret a Porter/Tycoon)
Imperio (Connery/Balfour xx)

Oakstable
Aug. 10, 2009, 10:12 PM
At least for this breeder in NA, I would like to see a breakout of stallions available fresh vs. frozen.

My two Dutch girls are in their teens now.

Pommederue
Aug. 10, 2009, 10:21 PM
Contango.

Fantastic
Aug. 11, 2009, 12:37 AM
Scandic KWPN (ridden by Patrick Kittel) - Solos Carex x Amiral (who both competed in CDI's)

mandalea
Aug. 11, 2009, 04:40 AM
From the Southern Hemisphere:

Regardez Moi (Pronounce Mwah, not mwoy)

Jive Magic is at Prix St George/ Inter I at the moment, but very close to GP/Inter II. And he is actually Heaths wife, Rozzie's stallion.

Regardez is our leading GP stallion in Australia, and there is a stud called Byalee, who put most of their mares in foal to him, and they turn out very good !

http://www.auctionofthestars.com/

video of where he explains where the horses are at, bloodlines etc: http://www.auctionofthestars.com/page.php?id=19

Jive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iLXZ0rnOOM

Regardez: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxDamXW61Gc&feature=related

Gah ! I love these guys !

Want to breed some decent mares to them some day :)

Commander Cody
Aug. 11, 2009, 05:20 AM
Tantris
Owned by Jeanne McDonald (GOV Oldenburg)

I had a WONDERFUL Tantris colt this spring. Watch for him at Devon!

dressageUK
Aug. 11, 2009, 08:37 AM
welcome (just been put down)
potomac - on german euro team 09

yaya
Aug. 11, 2009, 08:54 AM
Rambo

Alpha Mare
Aug. 11, 2009, 09:53 AM
Ramiro's Bube. he is both dressage and jumping lines.

Was ridden by Christine Stuckleberger, who rode Gaugin de Lully to the bronze in 1980. Still standing in Germany.

karin o
Aug. 11, 2009, 10:09 AM
I think an alphabet listing may be easier than by family. Am looking at the individuals as individuals .....if the father didn't make it to Grand Prix, (CDI/Olympic) then don't list him. We can do that much later...... Anyone game to make a alphabet listing? Got the time? The checking to see that the stallions actually have competed in CDI/Olympic competitions would be easier. We can add the details/Horse Telex/website also.

If you have knowledge of PSG stallions, please do not add them here. There are miles to go before that first CDI.

Also, if you have access to research and are certain 100% that a stallion has competed at this CDI level and IS alive and breeding, say so. That will help quicken this list. Karin
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Lingh (Flemmingh x Columbus by Lucky Boy xx) http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=27525 www.hasslerdressage.com
Krack C (Flemmingh x Beaujoulais by Lucky Boy xx) http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=1460

Idocus (Equador x Zonneglans) http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=1092
Olivier (Idocus x Porter) http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=7261

Cocktail KWPN (Purioso [who had three sons go to the Olympics –jumping & dressage] x Le Val Blancxx)
Jazz (Cocktail x Ulster) http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=1186

Art Deco (by Samber) http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=22956
Kingston (Voltaire [like Purioso a Furioso II son] x Burggraaf) http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=19162
Hexagon's Louisville (Burggraaf [whose grandsire and dam's grandsire were both xx]x Vesins xx) ) www.hasslerdressage.com http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=29873



Ferro (Ulft x Farn)

Master SW (Ceylon x Iran) http://www.swanaoffice.org/Stallions...on_Master.aspx
Tip Top SW (Master x Chagall) http://www.swanaoffice.org/Stallions...Tip%20Top.aspx
Amiral SW (Napoleon x Flamingo[Amiral and Flamingo were both Olympic horses IIRC]) http://www.swanaoffice.org/Stallions...on_Amiral.aspx
Briar SW (Magini x Krocket) http://www.swanaoffice.org/Stallions...ion_Briar.aspx


Leonidas Trak (Condus x Siegbert) http://www.americantrakehner.com/stallions/Leonidas.asp


Tiamo Trocadero/ Trapper
Nebelhorn Han (Nebelwerfer x Duft) http://www.equine.vt.edu/Nebel.html
Lancet Han (Wenzel x Shogunxx) http://www.superiorequinesires.com/stallions/lancet.htm

Leonberg

Landioso
Donnerwind (CDI***) both ridden by Jody Hartstone.
Regardez Moi
Herzberg
Peron
Biotop
TCN Partout (see TR lisings)
Axis
Windwalzer
Enrico Caruso
Kostolany
Gribaldi (TR Listings)
Caprimond
Blu Hors Cavan
Blu Hors Don Schufro
Blu Hors Romanov
Vincent / Weltmeyer
Wie Weltmeyer


De Niro
Donnerhall
Wild Dance
Rheirattack
Rubinstein GOV (Rosenkavalier x Angelo XX) http://www.horsemagazine.com/BREEDIN...ubinstein.html

Relevant GOV?(Rubenstein x Goldlowe) http://www.superiorequinesires.com/s...s/relevant.htm
Rohdiamant GOV? (Rubenstein x Inschallah) http://www.stallions-online.net/stal...hdiamant.shtml
(possibly Royal Diamond as well?)

Painted Black.
Rubique
Don Principe
Blue Hors
Galant du Serein
Pik L http://horsesunlimited.us/Stallions.asp
Romanov
Rampal
Boleem



trakehner stallions__________________
Fabian (Donauwind/Maharadscha)
Peron TSF (Mahagoni/Cocktail)
Partout (Arogno/Donauwind) SEE TR listings
Biotop (Blesk/Hockey)
EH Heuriger (Herzbube/Kurfurst)
Glanzlicht (Ordensglanz/ Consul)
Latimer(? I think he got to GP) (Saint Cloud/Caprimond)
Leonidas (Condus/Siegbert)
Pepel (Pilgrim)
EH Munchhausen (Hohenstein/Konigstein)
EH Gribaldi (Kostolany/Ibikus)
EH Monteverdi (Partout/Matador)
EH Ravel (Mahagoni/Donauwind)
Kronjuwel (Matador/Mazagran)
EH Van Deyk (Patricius xx/Ibikus)
Kaiserkult and Kasierdom (EH Van Deyk/Gajus)
Schwadroneur (Arogno/Ibikus)
Solero (Hyllos/Polargeist)
Lions-Club (Ferrum/Matador)
Acartenango (Pogremok/Eskadron)


Hailo (Anduc/Thor)
Charly Chaplin (Mackensen/Neuquen)
Insterburg (Hohenstein/Giorgio Armani)
Perechlest (Hockey/Papirus)
King Arthur (Buddenbrock/Consul)

Unkenuf

Penny G
Contango.
Scandic
Tantric
Welcome
Potomac
Rambo
Democrate
Parabol
Gaugin de Lully
Darwin
Junior


Goffert
Adel
Solos Carex
Admiral

dressageUK
Aug. 11, 2009, 10:14 AM
great topic by the way Karin :)

canyonoak
Aug. 11, 2009, 11:05 AM
Weyden
Aktion
Pik Bube (and the whole Pik As xx line)
Silvano N

sid
Aug. 11, 2009, 11:13 AM
Still don't know how to edit, but here's the scoop on Boleem if someone more computer literate can add it. ;):

Naturel (keur son of Lucky Boy xx) x Heidelberg by Ladykiller xx
http://www.paardenfokken.nl/pedigree.php?horseid=379978
CDI -GP
Competed by Sharon Poulin
Alive and breeding

Rival
Aug. 11, 2009, 11:25 AM
Contender, his offspring and his offsprings offspring have produced numerous GP horses.

Marydell
Aug. 11, 2009, 04:44 PM
Donnerhall &sons

De Niro (Donnrhall/Akzent II)
Blue Hors Don Schufro (Donnerhall/Pik Bube)
Don Principe (Donnerhall/Prince Thatch xx)
Donatelli (Donnerhall/Pik Bube)
Don Gregory- not sure if CDI but definitley CDN (Donnrhall/Graphit)


Maryanna Haymon
www.marydellfarm.com
2007 USEF Breeder of the Year!

mbp
Aug. 11, 2009, 08:17 PM
@30 - Scandic is lovely - here's a clip from a GP kur with Scandic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYXt4R0pGiI

I'll add a Holsteiner -

Carabas (Hol) Carnaby x Roberto (an Andreas Helgstrand GP horse)
http://www.helgstranddressage.com/uk/nyheder_wiesbaden_uk.html

and another Holsteiner -

Silvano N (Hol) Silvester x Latino. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA--xWuPRkc

canyonoak
Aug. 11, 2009, 09:22 PM
I hope someone is keeping a master list--there are an awful lot of (lovely) stallions double/triple posted.

Did we say Linsenhoff's great Piaff, the Swedish stallion ?

karin o
Aug. 11, 2009, 09:44 PM
Lets just keep adding names of individual breeding stallions, live or deceased that have made it to CDI Grand Prix/Olympic competition. Perhaps someone will do the alpha list, or I will in a week from now. I 'll find checkers who will be able to confirm CDI participation, the older horses are more difficult to know of - can anyone say when the CDI competitions began ? k

sid
Aug. 11, 2009, 10:04 PM
Karin O - Boleem is aged. I have his USDF records. He did his first CDI in 1994 at Saratoga (I1), but CDI at GP in 95 and 96. Maybe that timeline helps?

canyonoak
Aug. 11, 2009, 10:54 PM
This is the list so far alphabetized (I think it is complete; if not, sorry):

Acartenango
Adel
Aktion
Amiral
Art Deco

Berkeley W
Biotop
Boleem
Breitling W
Briar

Caprimond
Carabas
Cavan (Blue Hors)
Chrysos
Cocktail
Contango

Darwin
Democraat
De Niro
Donnerhall
Don Principe (CDI?)
Don Schufro
Donnerwind

Enrico Caruso

Ferro

Galant du Serein
Gauguin de Lully
Goffert
Granadero
Gribaldi
Grundstein
Guizo
Herzberg
Heuriger (EH)

Idocus
Insterburg
Invasor III

Jazz
Junior

Kingston
King Arthur
Kostolany
Krack C


Lancet
Landioso (?)
Leonberg
Leonidas
Lingh
Louisville (Hexagon’s)
Monteverdi
Munchausen

Nebelhorn

Olivier
Orpheus
Painted Black
Parabol
Partout
Pepel
Peron
Piaff
Pik Bube
Pik L
Potomac
Prestige
Rambo
Rampal
Regardez Moi
Relevant
Rheirattack (?)
Rubinstein
Rohdiamant
Roemer
Royal Diamond
Romanov (Blue Hors)
Rubique(?)

Scandic
Silvano N
Solero
Solos Carex

Tiamo Trocadero
Tip Top
Totilas

Unkenruf
Vincent
Welcome
Weyden
Wie Weltmeyer
Windwalzer
Wistar

Zorn

I added a few names <g> BUT left out the long list of Trakehners (sorry stolensilver) because the well-known CDI ones were already named and I am hoping someone else (cough) will go check to see if all named have shown in CDI's.

trakehner stallions__________________
Fabian (Donauwind/Maharadscha)
Peron TSF (Mahagoni/Cocktail)
Partout (Arogno/Donauwind) SEE TR listings
Biotop (Blesk/Hockey)
EH Heuriger (Herzbube/Kurfurst)
Glanzlicht (Ordensglanz/ Consul)
Latimer(? I think he got to GP) (Saint Cloud/Caprimond)
Leonidas (Condus/Siegbert)
Pepel (Pilgrim)
EH Munchhausen (Hohenstein/Konigstein)
EH Gribaldi (Kostolany/Ibikus)
EH Monteverdi (Partout/Matador)
EH Ravel (Mahagoni/Donauwind)
Kronjuwel (Matador/Mazagran)
EH Van Deyk (Patricius xx/Ibikus)
Kaiserkult and Kasierdom (EH Van Deyk/Gajus)
Schwadroneur (Arogno/Ibikus)
Solero (Hyllos/Polargeist)
Lions-Club (Ferrum/Matador)
Acartenango (Pogremok/Eskadron)


Hailo (Anduc/Thor)
Charly Chaplin (Mackensen/Neuquen)
Insterburg (Hohenstein/Giorgio Armani)
Perechlest (Hockey/Papirus)
King Arthur (Buddenbrock/Consul)


What a great list! What a great idea for a list! I hope someone else will add back in the breeding info and at some point we'll have a master list and it can join the Holy Threads of COTH.

Forte
Aug. 12, 2009, 12:20 AM
I was wrong about Wild Dance. He only competed PSG I believe (but he is a stallion, not a gelding)
Rheirattack is a Canadian Sport Horse stallion, approved for breeding with GOV. He has definitely competed at CDI level, as I remember he showed up on the WBFSH rankings. Here is some more info on him. It mentions him placing second in a CDI Grand Prix Special. http://www.oldenburghorse.com/book/rheirattack.pdf

Forte
Aug. 12, 2009, 12:30 AM
I don't think that Weltmeyer should be on that list. I 'm pretty sure he never competed.
Breitling W should definitely be added though.

canyonoak
Aug. 12, 2009, 12:52 AM
OK, I removed Weltmeyer and added Breitling W...and his son, Berkeley W

Dressage Art
Aug. 12, 2009, 01:09 AM
Zorn - SWB by Chagall. Short listed for the Olympic Team GP with rider Dennis Callin
http://www.dressageart.com/Zena/html/zorn.htm
also
http://www.horsesdaily.com/news/breeding/sire.html

Dressage_Diva333
Aug. 12, 2009, 01:22 AM
Rubino Bellissimo (by Rubinstein I), GP competitor standing at stud in California.

Marydell
Aug. 12, 2009, 06:13 AM
Don Principe- CDI- 2009 Gold Coast Opener
Donatelli- CDI- dressage at Devon 2007 or 8?

Maryanna Haymon
www.marydellfarm.com
2007 USEF Breeder of the Year!

stolensilver
Aug. 12, 2009, 07:16 AM
Oakie you heathen!!! Seriously, I'm actually pretty upset that you have dismissed the Trakehners out of hand. Each and every one of them deserves to be on this list. Many have competed at the World Cup, World Championships and at the Olympics. Many of them are far more qualified to be on an elite list of dressage stallions than the better known names that have bigger marketing machines behind them.

Since so many people have little knowledge of Trakehners here's more information about their achievements. If I were to include in this list stallions registered by other studbooks that are by Trakehner stallions (such as Totilas (Gribaldi) and Blue Hors Matine (Silvermoon)) or out of Trakehner mares it would go on for pages. Don't dismiss the Trakehner sires. Look carefully, there are many that are outstanding and they mix well with the blood from other studbooks.



Fabian (Donauwind/Maharadscha)
Reiner Klimke's mount. Competed international GP. Also happens to be 3/4 brother to Olympic GOLD medal winning showjumper Abdullah.

Peron TSF (Mahagoni/Cocktail)
Ridden by Michele Gibson. Won team BRONZE medal at the Olympics.

Partout (Arogno/Donauwind)
SEE TR listings Ridden by Anky and winner of World Cup.

Biotop (Blesk/Hockey)
Another of Reiner Klimke's horses. Won several World Cup qualifiers.

EH Heuriger (Herzbube/Kurfurst)
Proclaimed "World Dressage Sire" in 1994 and won team SILVER medal at the World Games finishing 4th individually.

Glanzlicht (Ordensglanz/ Consul) Winning at Grand Prix level with scores of 70% plus.

Latimer (Saint Cloud/Caprimond)
Won the Budeschampionat with the higest score ever given. Although I think he may not have competed above Inter 1 as he was sold to a young rider.

Leonidas (Condus/Siegbert)
Bred and ridden by Hilda Gurney and was USDF All Breeds Champion in 2002.

Pepel (Pilgrim/Creon)
Got a SILVER MEDAL at the Olympics in the individual competition.

EH Munchhausen (Hohenstein/Konigstein)
Second in the 6yo World Young Horse Dressage championships before competeing with Fie Skarsoe on the Danish team.


EH Gribaldi (Kostolany/Ibikus)
Ridden by Edward Gal at many World Cups and European championships. For many years the most popular sire in Holland covering over 400 mares a season. Sire of Painted Black, grandsire of Hotline and of course the new wonderhorse Totilas. How could you leave him out Oakie????!!!!!

EH Monteverdi (Partout/Matador)
Another stallion ridden by Fie Skarsoe. Won his first International Grand Prix at the tender age of 9 after having a year off due to colic surgery.

EH Ravel (Mahagoni/Donauwind)
Competed to GP by Kathrin Poll.

Kronjuwel (Matador/Mazagran)
Individual SILVER and TEAM GOLD medal winner at the Pan-Am games.

EH Van Deyk (Patricius xx/Ibikus)
Many placings and wins at GP in Germany. He is also the sire of Kaiserdom and Kaiserkult, Bundeschampionat winners yet he was only covering 5-10 mares a year!!! He is also the sire of Polarion, another approved Trakehner sire who himself competed up to Grand Prix with Laura Bechtolsteiner. AND Polarion is the sire of Grafenstolz, approved Trakehner sire and the ONLY HORSE EVER TO QUALIFY FOR THE FINALS OF DRESSAGE,SHOWJUMPING AND EVENTING AT THE BUNDESCHAMPIONAT IN A SINGLE YEAR. He won the Eventing final with a score of 96%!!!!! and went on to compete at **** eventing. Grafenstolz was considered a certainty for the German eventing team for the 2008 Olympics before he had to take time out due to injury. This amazing stallion is currently being retrained as a dressage horse.

Kaiserkult and Kasierdom (EH Van Deyk/Gajus)
Both winners of the 6yo Bundeschampionat in successive years and Kaiserkult is currently competeing at places like Verden at GP.

Schwadroneur (Arogno/Ibikus)
GP dressage stallion and one of the most popular sires in Denmark. He has at least 4 offspring competing at international Grand Prix.

Solero (Hyllos/Polargeist)
Won the Grand Prix Freestyle at Aachen and the world cup qualifier at Frankfurt.

Lions-Club (Ferrum/Matador)
Trained and shown up to Grand Prix in Germany by his amateur owner Karin Leissing.

Acartenango (Pogremok/Eskadron)
Competed at the 2000 OLYMPICS and 2002 WORLD EQUESTRIAN GAMES.

Hailo (Anduc/Thor)
Stationed in the US, competed at GP level and given ATA HOY at GP level.

Charly Chaplin (Mackensen/Neuquen)
Elite stallion, winner at GP level.

Insterburg (Hohenstein/Giorgio Armani)
Recently started at GP with good wins and placings including last week at Verden. http://www.eurodressage.com/news/breeding/trakehner/2008/bundesturnier.html

Perechlest (Hockey/Papirus)
One of the most successful stallions ever at Grand Prix level with 71 WINS at International Big Tour level and 8 SUCCESSIVE WINS AT GRAND PRIX. Just because you may not have heard of a stallion does not mean he isn't outstanding. I've always believed that the best stallions in the world are not the same as the most famous stallions in the world. And to show the versatility of this stallion's bloodlines his full brother is a very successful international SHOWJUMPER.

King Arthur (Buddenbrock/Consul)
Ridden by Petra Wilm he has placings and wins at Grand Prix all over Europe. I expect this stallion to become a big name in the next couple of years.

Shawnda N
Aug. 12, 2009, 07:31 AM
Excellent Post Stolen Silver. And just a small fact to go along with your statistics, There are more Trakehner Stallions competting in Grand Prix Dressage in Europe, than stallions of any other breed. Thats very impressive when you consider that the Trakehner studbook is very small compared to all the other Warmblood breeds out there.

stolensilver
Aug. 12, 2009, 07:42 AM
Thankyou Shawnda. I didn't know that there were more Trakehner stallions at GP than any other studbook but I'm not surprised. There are a LOT of them out there competing. The more I look into Trakehners the more impressed I become.

canyonoak
Aug. 12, 2009, 09:38 AM
I love Trakehners in the same way I love all horses and especially love the athletes.

But as I said--many of the Trakehners in the 'Trakehner list' were double-listed.

And everyone is free to add to the list!!!!

DownYonder
Aug. 12, 2009, 10:07 AM
Are we just including stallions that competed at the CDI level? Or any stallion that has competed in a local GP?

YankeeLawyer
Aug. 12, 2009, 11:30 AM
Stolensilver - what about Caprimond? I know he showed GP (and did so with a young rider) until he was 19, but I am not sure if he ever competed in CDIs.

merrygoround
Aug. 12, 2009, 11:38 AM
Orpheus, Jessica Ransehousen's 1988 Olympic mount.

cheekyhorse
Aug. 12, 2009, 12:28 PM
thank you stolensilver for your great post about all of the Trakehner stallions. It is a shame that they would be left off that list entirely, I cannot believe that that happened. :no:
People need to take into consideration that the Trakehner is STILL the most popular breed for dressage in Europe and that most of their favorite grand prix mounts of this time are full or part Trakehner!! If I got into all of the competing Grand prix horses that were of full or had some Trakehner blood the list would go on forever....

canyonoak
Aug. 12, 2009, 12:48 PM
Trakehners are one of the most highly respected genetic components of any sport horse breeding program. But a lot of the stallions in that list EITHER are already in the list OR did not show at Olympic/ big CDI level.

Please--everyone should add to the info on the list, both breeding and biggest event stallion showed at (like saying Orpheus,(Persian Path x Apollo) Olympics 1988

mbp
Aug. 12, 2009, 01:00 PM
I don't think anyone was trying to exclude Trakehners, but the longer list duplicated several names already there, so guys like Biotop and Peron and Leonidas etc. were already on the list.

And the OP is looking for something pretty specific, CDI and Olympic level GP participation. Not great stallions who won young horse competitions or produced out the wazoo, but very specifically GP competition themselves. So I think several from the Trak list do need to go on, but a few don't. And a few that were there from other breeds don't need to stay on the list.

Tiligsmom
Aug. 12, 2009, 01:38 PM
I believe Jennifer Schrader-Williams debuted Wistar at CDI GP this year.

Wistar - Hungarian by Wishes and Dreams (Weltmeyer)

selah
Aug. 13, 2009, 09:13 AM
Damon Hill

Just an aside...I looked up Damon Hill's website to verify GP...and the "translation" listed this
award:
"Damon Hill NRW wins enema examination of the Nuremberg Castle Cup with 71.7% in the strongest competition."

O my:eek:

clint
Aug. 13, 2009, 12:14 PM
I believe Winterprinz has competed at GP level, but I'm not sure about CDI. Taxateur competed at GP, probably CDI.

Lgd1
Aug. 14, 2009, 08:36 AM
Mooiman (Flemmingh x Roemer)
Lorenzo (Ferro)
Kasjmir
Millenium

karin o
Aug. 14, 2009, 01:40 PM
Hoping that you all can do the research and background checks on these remarkable horses that you are including in the posts. Where the horses are standing or where they bred before they died is helpful, their fatherlines or motherlines so further research can be done by others, at what CDI they were competing to earn this title will steer the list in the quickest right direction. Worker bees will categorize etc, (cut and paste ) but we need back-up. Hope you all will keep helping and detective this list. Thanks, Karin

Maren
Aug. 14, 2009, 07:44 PM
Here is an attempt to clarify some of the Trakehner entries. If only CDI and above is requested, then some drop off, other come into play. I have now left out those that "only" showed Grand Prix (and I still have to find a backyard GP in Germany where you would discredit a stallion's performance just because it's not a CDI. I'll take a Heroldsberg GP winner over many CDIs any day of the week- just my two cents).

From the original list:

Acartenango
EH Biotop
EH Caprimond (showed CDI with Nicole Uphoff - showed backyard GP at age 8 with Dolf-Dietram Keller ;-)
Enrico Caruso *Ps*E*
EH Gribaldi
Herzberg *Pg*
EH Heuriger
Insterburg TSF
EH King Arthur TSF
Kostolany (did not show at Grand Prix level, so has to drop out)
Leonidas *Pg*
EH Monteverdi TSF
EH Münchausen TSF
EH Partout
Pepel
Peron *Pg*
EH Solero TSF
Unkenruf *Pg*E*
Vincent
Windwalzer *Pg*


From the "deleted" Trakehner list:

Fabian (Donauwind *E*/Maharadscha)
Glanzlicht (Ordensglanz/ EH Consul)
EH Ravel (Mahagoni/Donauwind *E*) ---- not at CDI
Kronjuwel (Matador/Mazagran)
EH Van Deyk (Patricius xx/Ibikus)
Kaiserkult TSF and Kaiserdom TSF (EH Van Deyk/Gajus) - Kaiserdom TSF has not shown GP yet, but has shown at CDIs
Schwadroneur (EH Arogno/Ibikus)
Lions-Club (Ferrum/Matador) ---- not at CDI

Hailo *Pg*E* (Anduc/Thor)
EH Charly Chaplin (Mackensen/Neuquen xx)
Perechlest (Hockey/Papirus)

And in addition:

EH Friedensfürst (Rondo/Gelria)
Kaiser Wilhelm (Schwadroneur/Mahagoni)
Kapriolan F (Exclusiv/Karon)
Payano (EH Herzruf/EH Arogno)
EH Showmaster (Kostolany/Ibikus)
Blue Hors Hertug (Schwadroneur/Donauwind *E*)

sid
Aug. 14, 2009, 08:25 PM
Boleem records from going through old USDF printouts (GP only):

1995 Southern Comfort CDI,1995 Snowbird's Paradise (Olympic Qualifier),1996 Southern Comfort CDI,1996 Snowbird's Paradise (Olympic Qualifier),1996 Royal Dressage Festival (Olympic Qualifier).

I already posted his breeding. Stands in Virginia, though semen is qualified for the EU, Australia and NZ.

Sorry, I can't cut and paste this info...

Tiligsmom
Aug. 14, 2009, 09:12 PM
Hoping that you all can do the research and background checks on these remarkable horses that you are including in the posts. Where the horses are standing or where they bred before they died is helpful, their fatherlines or motherlines so further research can be done by others, at what CDI they were competing to earn this title will steer the list in the quickest right direction. Worker bees will categorize etc, (cut and paste ) but we need back-up. Hope you all will keep helping and detective this list. Thanks, Karin


HS Wistar - Hungarian Stallion by Wishes and Dreams (Weltmeyer) out of H. Marado

Standing at Summervale Farm, Roy, WA - http://www.summervalefarm.com/wistar_info.htm

GP - CDI Results:

The Dressage Affaire - Del Mar, CA, 2009


2nd Place Grand Prix - 62.979% (open test held in front of CDI panel of 5 judges)
2nd Place Grand Prix - 62.766% (open test held in front of CDI panel of 5 judges)


Golden State Dressage CDI- Sacramento, CA, 2009


5th Place CDI Grand Prix - 60.7%

karin o
Aug. 19, 2009, 08:03 AM
The last few posts is the detective work that is helpful to confirm some of the horses competition career that we have not heard of. I would like to get this list with the living/deceased designation - we can cut and paste the findings.... all help is appreciated, so if you have time....and if you just tackle small sections it will go quickly. We could break the list into sections of 5-10 names. (we will need a master alphabetical list again ) That way we won't duplicate. Anyone interested in helping could take a section.

Maybe this way we can can 'er done !! Thanks in advance ! Karin

Tiligsmom
Aug. 19, 2009, 12:00 PM
HS Wistar - Hungarian Stallion by Wishes and Dreams (Weltmeyer) out of H. Marado

Standing at Summervale Farm, Roy, WA - http://www.summervalefarm.com/wistar_info.htm

GP - CDI Results:

The Dressage Affaire - Del Mar, CA, 2009


2nd Place Grand Prix - 62.979% (open test held in front of CDI panel of 5 judges)
2nd Place Grand Prix - 62.766% (open test held in front of CDI panel of 5 judges)


Golden State Dressage CDI- Sacramento, CA, 2009


5th Place CDI Grand Prix - 60.7%



HS Wistar is alive, competing, and breeding

SueL
Aug. 19, 2009, 12:16 PM
More trakehner stallions who qualify for the list. :)

Ya gotta have some love for Falke when discussing Trak stallions. Dunno if he ever did a CDI, heck he was old fifteen years ago, but he did get to GP. His value seems to lie on the mareline side, he was the maternal grandsire of Kostolany.

I knew Falke pretty well - he was an ultra-sweet stallion and very personable. *Very* attractive and a wonderful mover. He is pretty much forgotten I guess - but he contributed greatly to Kostolany's ability to transmit the ability to "sit." MHO.

Very cool horse. I miss our Falke daughter, lost to a pasture accident, just about every day.

Sue
svleopold@earthlink.net

punky
Aug. 19, 2009, 10:32 PM
Thank you so much for your post about Falke. I have a 3 month old Kostolany daughter and it's nice to hear about her family.

SueL
Aug. 20, 2009, 12:42 AM
Thank you so much for your post about Falke. I have a 3 month old Kostolany daughter and it's nice to hear about her family.

Pictures please? I'd love to see her. You can pm me if you do not want to post publicly.

Sue

cheekyhorse
Aug. 20, 2009, 02:32 AM
You have piles of choices if you're looking to breed. It's almost overwhelming. I'm a frozen semen importer and it makes even my head spin at the quality of horses available today. The breeding programs and the horses are getting better all the time.

Basically, if you are looking for an A grade stallion, you're safe to work with Caprimond and sons, Weltmeyer and sons, Sandro Hit and sons, Rubinstein and sons, Donnerhall and sons, although Donnerhall sons are better if they are out of the Pik mare line.

Europe is crossing some interesting matches right now, using a Rubinstein daughter or granddaughter and matching with a stallion with Donnerhall and Sandro Hit, such as Sir Donnerhall. The results of this have been extraordinarily impressive as long as the Rubinstein daughter is very good to begin with.

Sir Donnerhall's offspring have been ultra impressive. I'm watching one his son's right now, just turned 5 this spring - Sarkozy - that boy has the moves. I watched him do a performance as a young 4-yo and it showed an undeveloped boy-horse whose movement was as pure and natural as they come - amazing lift, freedom through the shoulder, impressive forward motion of his hips. Wow! He impressed the crowd and he got a standing ovation. I can hardly wait to see how much he improves with development and training!

Briar has several offspring who are already competing at the FEI levels, his most impressive son is Okeanos who was under training also with Jan Brink, but I heard that Jan retired? (need that confirmed). Briar very consistently throws chrome, chrome, chrome and very tall. Briar has one of the highest breeding indexes in Europe that he has held consistently at the top for the most number of years.

My PSG mare has a Briar daughter and she is drop-dead gorgeous, currently 3 years of age.

Rainbow Equus' new stallion, Rubignon, is also a Grand Prix elite stallion. He was on the Swedish Dressage Team until Edgar and Susan brought him home to CA.

Canada has an extremely impressive Rubinstein son, called Royal Senna, who throws amazing temperament, dark colour, and movement. Senna won his performance test and is out of an elite mare, Argentina, who was sired Airport (who was, in turn, sired by the most phenomenal, gold medal winning stallion, Argentan). His approved son, Royal T, is even more flamboyant and extravagant. He is 7 this year and already showing at Intermediare I. He adds Westminster and Figaro to the mix.

I have a Senna daughter who I am most in love with - she's 2 and I can hardly wait to put a saddle on her, oh-la-la. I have a colt this year sired by Royal T out of my PSG mare who makes my tongue and spine tingle. I have him up for sale, but it would have to be a pretty penny to make me budge because he's already showing the moves...

Yes, but these are all the same overused tired bloodlines. This list we are making up here is great, because it is unearthing different bloodlines for everyone to consider. Personally, I won't breed to a Sandro Hit or a Weltmeyer, or a Rubenstein anything, because the market is already flooded with those. Need to mix up the bloodlines more than that. Not everyone wants to ride the same horses as everyone else ;)

Parador
Aug. 20, 2009, 02:42 AM
Donnerschlag (Donnerhall)

Marydell
Aug. 20, 2009, 05:36 AM
I really like this list- it is pointing out two important issues-

1) That there are only a few stallions(based on the total numbers of horses that compete CDI GP) that have had successful international GP careers.
2) That certain bloodlines rise to the top consistantly

I do not know if this list was for breeding purposes but if the goal is GP, then I think any breeder would chose those lines and not care about "riding the same horses as everyone else".
The proven lines that I am aware of are:
Donnerhall
Rubinstein
Weltmeyer, especially on the dam side with the "D" and "R" lines
In Trakhener-
Ibikus
Caprimond
Mahagoni
Donauwind
Consul

I do not know Dutch lines but I am sure there would be a few there as well that show up more than once.

Interesting tidbit for breeders: in the Atlanta Olympics, Grande shows up in the first three generations of pedigree of 18 out of the top 20 place horses in both dressage and jumping. somewhat similar numbers for Athens. When I saw this statistic, I went looking for a Grande daughter or direct granddaughter. At the time, I think there were only 5 or 6 still alive in their late 20s. I bought, in utero, a DeNiro/Grande filly.

The Hanoverian Verband has seen the near loss of this line and is now encouraging their breeders to go back to it and are offering incentives to do so. Breeders fell away from using Grande lines because of the lack of beauty and buyer interest .(we all need to sell out young stock to pay the bills after all). Hence the rise of Sandro Hit. BUT-you would be highly challenged to find any SH offspring doing CDI at any level other than Young Horse.

Just a point to help highlight the above. Today, we are seeing a rebirth of the "B" line of Bolero. The proven nick there was a TB (Bolero) on top of Grande mares. Brentano II, Brentina, etc. NOT your average beauty queens!

Maryanna Haymon
www.marydellfarm.com
2007 USEF Breeder of the Year!

Surviving the Dramas
Aug. 20, 2009, 05:55 AM
Sorry - the 3 that I gave from this side of the globe I didn't put pedigrees with.

Landioso is Landgraf (Holstein) x Up to Date (Calvados II).

Donnerwind is Donnerschlag x Furinde (Voltaire)

Regardez Moi is Rubinstein x Chlotilda (Consul)

DownYonder
Aug. 20, 2009, 06:13 AM
Very good points by Maryanna, esp. regarding the very proven contribution of Donnerhall and Rubinstein I.

I would like to point out, however, that Sandro Hit is quite a bit younger than the other stallions listed, so it is maybe a bit too early to dismiss him as a sire capable of producing CDI offspring.
Sandro Hit - 1993
Donnerhall - 1985
Rubinstein - 1986
Ibikus - 1967
Caprimond - 1985
Mahagoni - 1974
Donauwind - 1965
Consul - 1980

Also - I have said this on another thread a while back, but will repeat it here. Sandro Hit's first foal crop is now 12 y/o, and my understanding is that a fair number of those early foals were from jumper breeding programs. He did not begin to be heavily utilized by dressage breeders until he won the Young Dressage Horse World Championships in 1999. The first very large foal crops bred for dressage started arriving in 2000, so are just now approaching the age for GP competition. Time will tell if he will be worthy to be put on a "top CDI sire" list.

Tiligsmom
Aug. 20, 2009, 01:34 PM
Karin O - Are you getting the info you need? Will this list be made available to the public?

karin o
Aug. 21, 2009, 07:29 AM
hello all - if we can organize all this and complete an accurate and honest listing by September mid month, I would be happy. I do not want to encourage turning this thread into a discussion of stallions, only facts now....once we get the background work done then we can discuss - without all this gathered we cannot see the whole picture...choose your groups of stallions and confirm away. can someone provide us with the alphabet list again ? hint hint.......:-)))))) great comments however..... and many thanks for helping !!! KO

Party Doll
Aug. 21, 2009, 10:22 AM
How about the Friesian stallions Tinus and Jorrit of Proud Meadows? They both competed at Grand Prix and on the California/Florida circuits so there may have been some CDIs in there. Both are still living I believe.

Also did the Trakehner stallion Pregelstrand compete in a CDI? He may be deceased but they still list him for frozen.

Did you get Olympic medalist Weyden, grandson of Wenzel? I think he just died this year.

Lgd1
Aug. 23, 2009, 01:39 PM
Mooiman (Flemmingh x Roemer)
Lorenzo (Ferro)
Kasjmir
Millenium


Mooiman, KWPN, born 1994, stands in the UK at Holdenfold Stud. Competed by Angela Crane for Ireland. Second one down on the link. Placed 6th at Zwolle CDI3* and placed at Pompadour CDI3* both in 2008

http://www.holdenfolddressage.co.uk/stallions.html

Lorenzo, 1993, KWPN. By Clavecimbel. Owned and ridden by Wayne Channon, numerous CDI starts, several world cup wins, was short-listed for Athens 2004. Done quite a few CDIOs

Kasjmir, 1994, Dutch-bred, several CDI starts and placings.

Both based in Belgium.

Millenium - all the info is here:

http://www.hobgoblins-stud.com/millenium.htm

Lgd1
Aug. 23, 2009, 01:49 PM
Diamond Hit

http://www.brookhousestud.com/2007/_html/main.php?id=8&&taal=en&&page=hengst

Wie Weltmeyer

http://www.brookhousestud.com/2007/_html/main.php?taal=en&&page=hengst&&id=14

Lancet

http://www.brookhousestud.com/2007/_html/main.php?taal=en&&page=hengst&&id=11

Don SChufro

http://www.bluehors.net/cms/index.php?idcat=18&changelang=2

Parador
Aug. 23, 2009, 03:53 PM
ARGUS (Pion x Jasper)

http://www.malouin.net/Argus.html
(here it says: Argus is the only horse in the world that was simultaneously successful in BOTH Grand Prix jumping and International dressage competitions.)

Hilltop Farm Inc
Aug. 23, 2009, 04:09 PM
Both Cabaret (Cor de la Bryere-Landgraf) and Parabol (Paradox I-Waldschuetz) were Grand Prix competitors at the CDI level.

drsg4me
Aug. 24, 2009, 05:18 PM
What about Uniform the dutch stallion?
I know he did alot at GP, anyone know if he did any CDIs?

Piaffing
Aug. 24, 2009, 09:02 PM
I would like to add Reipo, Swedish warmblood. Won bronze with Ashley Holzer in 1988 for Canada.

imajicadutch
Aug. 24, 2009, 09:40 PM
Argus never competed at GP dressage, although he did do GP jumping.

karin o
Aug. 27, 2009, 06:09 PM
Maybe over the weekend someone could combine the list again....though there is soooo much to view at the Championships ! Thanks for your all help !

Arathita
Aug. 27, 2009, 11:21 PM
Karin,

What is this list for? Perhaps you can help organize and edit the numerous stallions people have done research on and listed here? You likely know more about your question than others on the list, having purchased, bred and competed some top stallions at the top levels.

A.

TouchstoneAcres
Aug. 28, 2009, 11:02 AM
580 Maestoso Monteaura, 1984 Olympics for Yugoslavia, Lipizzan

torontodressage
Aug. 28, 2009, 11:08 AM
Maybe already mentioned :


Kigali (WorldChampion Jumping and now member of the Dutch A-dressage team under Marlies van Baalen)

Florianus II Sold by Karin Rehbein to Iron Spring Farm and now very succesfull under Belinda Nairn Wertmann

caddym
Aug. 28, 2009, 12:25 PM
what about Bordeaux ridden by kathy priest?

karin o
Aug. 29, 2009, 09:02 AM
and I know it would take me all day. I may be able to buy great stallions, but use a computer .....not so great. I cannot type very well, I used all my brain cells to learn to sit the trot ! Haha ha.

As explained, we are looking for backup info on our "stallion list" listings, alphabetized, to confirm if they were internationally shown in the Olympic/CDI Arenas . That's the help needed now.

Actually, I do have a plan. For some background, it was encouraging to read REED ON BREEDING, in Horse International Magazine where he says "if we are to achieve our goal of breeding world class athletes...then we must use world class stallions and mares in our breeding program and make informed, creative, and bold choices about which genetic endowments to combine each year to produce a foal."

One year ago at the Global Dressage Forum ( not to be missed in 2009, , held at end of October in the Netherlands) colleague Laurens van Lieren (former Dutch young rider, previous rider for Hexagon's Louisville) suggested to the Forum that a Club for the top stallions, the stallions that have made it all the way up the ladder to Grand Prix CDI and Olympics be formed.

This list then calls the stallions to attention that genetically, environmentally, physically and by their training make them stand apart. They are special, and we can create a Club in their honor. They survived the test of time and now can be recognized. With the benefits that social networking provides we have so many folks out there that can do the research - and we can credit COTHers and the hard work that goes into creating a list of this size and depth.

I think its a fascinating subject and worthy of our computer time. Hope you can help. Karin Offield

karin o
Sep. 3, 2009, 04:41 PM
From what I have learned through this, it sounds like it is best to put the list onto an excel spread sheet. I have tried and it was a disaster. Yikes !! Does anyone have time over the long weekend to do this ? PM me and we can work on the columns and the order. The thread is running on empty now and it is time to organize it before going any further. Thanks, KO

slc2
Sep. 3, 2009, 06:36 PM
I can do an excel spread sheet.

Pretend I have Asperger's Syndrome, and explain to me very specifically what you want done. :D

DownYonder
Sep. 3, 2009, 07:48 PM
From what I have learned through this, it sounds like it is best to put the list onto an excel spread sheet. I have tried and it was a disaster. Yikes !! Does anyone have time over the long weekend to do this ? PM me and we can work on the columns and the order. The thread is running on empty now and it is time to organize it before going any further. Thanks, KO

Karin, I have already started an Excel spread sheet for this but had to put it aside to work on something else. I hope to get back to it this weekend. So far, I have columns for registry, YOB, sire, dam, and damsire (if known), also some specific CDI info. I will PM you regarding what other data you want captured.

karin o
Sep. 7, 2009, 10:28 PM
Great news Down Yonder ;-) hopefully it will be easy formatting to add new candidates.

I wonder how many stallions, available today for breeding will be on the list. ??

It will be a great tool for the mare owners considering their choices for this next season ! k