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JackSprats Mom
Aug. 5, 2009, 10:46 PM
Looking at hay ads and one reads it has 'kick out bales'?

Anyone know what it means:confused:

TIA

hank
Aug. 5, 2009, 11:02 PM
It means the bales were made by a machine that ties the strings then "kicks" the bale into a wagon pulled behind....means bales are SMALL, usually around 35lbs or so and should be priced accordingly. ON the plus side, they are easier for women and children to handle when you get them home.:D

Bluey
Aug. 5, 2009, 11:08 PM
You can also haul and store more hay in those stacks with very small bales.:)

goodhors
Aug. 5, 2009, 11:48 PM
Locally they call them "kicker" bales. Again small, but usually the leftovers from finishing the rows and cleaning out the baler itself. Farmer may pile these small bales together and sell for less money each. No one I know sets the baler for small bales of 35 pounds.

Hay guys around here have balers that toss the bales into wagons, still weigh in heavy if they set the baler that way. All our hay is done with those throwing balers, so weight can be 50 to 75 pounds, depending on what kind of hay and how tight the set the string. Wagons have high sides to catch the flying bales, saves on needed people to get hay to the barn. Just need the tractor driver instead of a driver, bale catcher/thrower and stacker on the wagon.

pines4equines
Aug. 6, 2009, 10:28 AM
I'm from NY and that's all this is sold around here are the kicker bales. They are much lighter (35 or so lbs) and definitely convenient to handle especially if you have to take a bale out to the fields.

goeslikestink
Aug. 6, 2009, 01:22 PM
Looking at hay ads and one reads it has 'kick out bales'?

Anyone know what it means:confused:

TIA

convential bales -- of hay price accordly of about 3- quid

Auventera Two
Aug. 6, 2009, 02:18 PM
Kick balers throw the bales up into the air like a catapult and they land in a wagon that has 4 tall sides on it. Like a box. The wagon fills up with the bales, and they get wedged in there pretty tight sometimes.

Regular balers (don't know what those are technically called), sort of poop the bale out of a chute, and it just drops on the ground as the baler drives along. Someone has to come through and pick them up, then stack them on a flat hay wagon.

I buy hay from both types of balers, and there is no real difference in size or quality of the bales. The only difference was that the kick baled bales were wedged in tight in the trailer with the tall sides, and the others are stacked neatly on a flat trailer. Maybe the size of the bales depends on the individual baler and the farmer?

greysandbays
Aug. 6, 2009, 04:21 PM
When I was a kid, we got one load of those "kick out" bales. My dad was thoroughly disgusted with them. When they are machine-tossed into the wagon, they land every-which-way and a lot of them crumple and then don't stack/haul worth a crap.

Haven't seen any around here for a long, long time. Everybody that was trying to make do with less labor went to big round bales.

My hay guy is pressed for time and pressed for help, and even he won't put up this kind of hay. He has some kind of thingamajig on his tractor that lets him pick up and stack almost a dozen small square bales at a time and stack them on the wagon. I think he uses the same machine to load semis when he sells out of state.

Auventera Two
Aug. 6, 2009, 04:56 PM
We have bought lots of kick baled hay over the years, and yes, there are a few bales in every wagon that crumpled and broke, but I think the biggest factor in determining that was how tight they were baled, and how secure the strings were. If the strings are loose, then you don't stand a chance. Nice tight strings with tight packed bales, no problem.

Gosh, we've been on this farm for 13 years, the first 10 my parents owned it. We bought about 500 bales of alfalfa from the same farmer every year. He'd drive the wagon to us and we'd unload it here. All he has ever used was a kick baler. A few broken bales per wagon, but we'd just scoop that into a wheelbarrow and feed it up right away. We never had much problem. It is a pain though when the bales are crammed in there so tight.

JackSprats Mom
Aug. 7, 2009, 08:22 PM
Thanks all that was news to me, never heard the term before!

katarine
Aug. 7, 2009, 08:49 PM
in AL, never seen them here-