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sobriquet
Jul. 28, 2009, 09:08 PM
I know people ask all the time but why not...

Looking to breed my mare next year. She just had her first foal this spring, he's a leggy, correct, outgoing colt, whom she clearly improved a lot of things on from the stallion even. She herself is 16'3 hh, elegant build, very leggy, hunter movement and mind. Very pretty face. She passed on the pretty face, and the height this time, as the stallion is only 15'2 hh and throws small (none usually over 16 hh mature), but the colt is 12 hh at 7 weeks old.

I'd like to improve her hip/loin area and bum, give it some more power. Would prefer more bone and solid build, and a little more loft to the gaits. Breeding for a hunter baby. Any suggestions? I'm open to ideas and have a lot of time to decide.

diva4ever
Jul. 29, 2009, 08:28 AM
Ironman or Ironrule would be good candidates for a hunter baby. Ironrule is just starting his breeding career this year but everyone is very excited to see his crop next year. Ironman's offspring are absolutely gorgeous with a great mind, great build, and excellent movement. See ironmanonline.com for more info.

avadog
Jul. 29, 2009, 09:44 AM
Did you want a smaller stallion?

sobriquet
Jul. 29, 2009, 04:25 PM
Ironman is actually one of my favourites. Looked into him two years ago with another mare and he just wasn't her ideal cross in my opinion, but I do think he'd cross well with this mare. I think Ironrule might be too much Tb in the end result.

No, not looking to take down the height. I'd be aiming for 16'2 and beyond. She doesn't seem to need much help there but preferrably something that doesn't tend to throw smaller.

EquineLVR
Jul. 29, 2009, 05:51 PM
Cunningham
Romantic Star
Redwine
Landfriese II

Sebastian
Jul. 30, 2009, 01:41 PM
You'll find lots of interesting discussion and good candidates here:

http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=179683&highlight=Hunter

My personal fav is Cunningham.
Seb :)

avadog
Jul. 30, 2009, 02:56 PM
I like Romantic Star, Redwine and Popeye K. They all seem to have a good hindend and all have a great jump.

AdAblurr02
Jul. 30, 2009, 09:44 PM
If you want to add bone, foot, great engine, and jump, PLUS a wonderful temperament, consider going with a nice Irish Draught.

Yes, we do have one, but there are many terrific RID stallions out there who produce what you are after. Our young stud's first two are out of fabulous mares, who between them have given us ten outstanding foals - and his are the best we have gotten in our breeding career. I need to get out in the summer heat and get more current pics of the girls....

avadog
Jul. 30, 2009, 10:39 PM
If you want to add bone, foot, great engine, and jump, PLUS a wonderful temperament, consider going with a nice Irish Draught.

Yes, we do have one, but there are many terrific RID stallions out there who produce what you are after. Our young stud's first two are out of fabulous mares, who between them have given us ten outstanding foals - and his are the best we have gotten in our breeding career. I need to get out in the summer heat and get more current pics of the girls....

I'm curious, have you seen many RIDs in the hunter ring? I ask because I've never seen one at a A show but it could be that I'm just not noticing them. Is a RID and a Draught the same? I'm not really up on the Irish horses.

EiRide
Jul. 31, 2009, 12:14 AM
I'm curious, have you seen many RIDs in the hunter ring? I ask because I've never seen one at a A show but it could be that I'm just not noticing them. Is a RID and a Draught the same? I'm not really up on the Irish horses.

A Registered Irish Draught has been presented to the breed society inspectors and passed the inspection. An Irish Draught without the "R" has either not been presented or failed.

There are a couple 'fly by night' alternate registeries with Irish Draught stallions which failed inspection. Now, they may or may not be nice stallions, but they were not (at least on the day presented) deemed sufficient to the breed standard to produce progeny. Sometimes it is recommended that the stallion (or mare) be given some time to develop and represented.

There are a lot of nice RID stallions who, when put to a nice mare, certainly could produce a horse which was suited to the hunter ring.
This is my Irish Draught Sport Horse filly--the sire is Huntingfield Proud Tim and the mother is Witchita Dancer, a TB. She's out with the herd, so we have some of our other horses galloping about in there as well--the dark grey is also an IDSH, and the light grey her Appendix QH mother:

CC is 8 weeks old in the most recent photos:
http://www.silverstein.com/gallery/8388508_WWFCf#606604768_ViuXC

And here is my IDSH filly on her 3rd and 8th ride this spring (she had had 40 days in the fall, then the winter off). The 3rd ride is the walking outside clip, the 8th ride is in the indoor:

http://www.youtube.com/user/eileengmorgan#play/uploads/11/jBZbrGb5AMM

I bred for eventing, not hunters, but I suspect either of my fillies would do fine in hunters as well. Rain is a little challenging, but getting more and more rideable as we go. :-)

Hope that gives you an idea about the Irish crosses!

alliekat
Jul. 31, 2009, 09:35 AM
We crossed our Tb mare with Escapade and couldn't be more pleased with the results. In fact we have bred two mares back to him this year. I think you would be happy him him as well. With the added bonus that Alisha is wonderful to deal with. Good luck.