TB's showing/have shown at Advanced Level?

[TrueColours]

On another board a poster is stating that Salute The Truth is the *ONLY* full TB to have ever competed at the Advanced Level in the USA

Surely to goodness that isnt correct???

I know that Rather Well is competing at Advanced out of Canada but I thought there must be a whack of them in the past and present in the States as well

Names and riders please?

many thanks! :)

[roki143]

Maybe the only full thoroughbred stallion?

Definitely not the only full TB

[TrueColours]

Okay - fair enough. Have there been any other full TB stallions competing at that level now or in the past?

[Ritazza]

Pretty sure the majority of Advanced horses are still TBs, even with the warmblood cross trend! Maybe they meant stallion... although I feel like that can't possibly be true, SURELY there are other TB stallions that have competed through Advanced.

[1ofEach]

Courageous Comet and Poggio II were both ex race horses that competed extensively, neither stallions though.

What about Epic Win? He's from the past though.

[deltawave]

Courageous Comet
Poggio
El Primero
Hollywood
That's just off the top of my head in 10 seconds--there are probably dozens more.

I think Salute the Truth's claim to fame is the fact that he's a stallion. :)

[JWB]

TONS of TBs competing at advanced - can't think of that many TBs. For that matter, there are not a ton of stallions competing at advanced, regardless of breed.

[Janet]

If you go to the Chronicle site and bring up the Eventin issue, it willgive you the information on every horse that has won at Prelim and above.

Historically, i am pretty sure denny has competed at least 1, and probably two, TB stallions.

[scubed]

Urban Sophisticate #18148
1992 bay TB Stallion
Criminal x HoF Leap of Faith
Eventing (Advanced)

and a couple others at that site http://www.ohwowcool.com/new/displayHorses.php?s=TBS
The site is hard to figure out, but it seems like they might have done advanced level eventing

[luckofthedraw]

I think the pic of Urban Sophisticate on that website is incorrect. I believe that's Shannon Ewing and Adrenaline Rush.

[mcm7780]

Don Williams and Hark are two OTTBs that went Advanced with Bunnie Sexton out in Area VI.

[piccolittle]

Can you post a link to that board/thread??

[3dazey]

I can't swear to this but am pretty sure, in the ads that used to run in the Chronicle's stallion issue, Salute the Truth was advertised as the only JC registered stallion to compete at the advanced level.

I have no idea if that is still true.

[denny]

Core Buff and Epic Win were reg tb stallions I rode at advanced.

A few other reg tbs I rode advanced;

King Oscar--Foxed Again--Chestry Oak--Odessa Contessa---Speed Axcel--

There may be one or two others that I can`t remember, but those 7 all had Jockey Club papers.

[Jaegermonster]

I can't swear to this but am pretty sure, in the ads that used to run in the Chronicle's stallion issue, Salute the Truth was advertised as the only JC registered stallion to compete at the advanced level.

I have no idea if that is still true.


I never saw anything saying he was the ONLY TB doing it, which everyone knows would be a blatent falsehood, but I did see things saying he was the only TB stallion doing it NOW.
They never said the only one ever. That may have changed in recent years.

[RubyLink]

http://www.dodonfarm.com/willy1.html

I'm assuming this is the stallion people are talking about. Don't know if this helps at all.

[bornfreenowexpensive]

http://www.dodonfarm.com/willy1.html

I'm assuming this is the stallion people are talking about. Don't know if this helps at all.


He might be the only one currently standing.....there have of course been others. There are also several TB stallions who while themselves may not have competed Adv. in eventing...they have produced ADV. eventers. And there are stallions like Aberjack who are almost full TB (7/8ths)....he also compete successfully at Advanced.

There are a couple others at levels below advanced working their way up as well right now. That said....Salute the Truth is a nice stallion and has produced some nice foals.

[RubyLink]

He might be the only one currently standing.....there have of course been others. There are also several TB stallions who while themselves may not have competed Adv. in eventing...they have produced ADV. eventers. And there are stallions like Aberjack who are almost full TB (7/8ths)....he also compete successfully at Advanced.

There are a couple others at levels below advanced working their way up as well right now. That said....Salute the Truth is a nice stallion and has produced some nice foals.

I was only curious to see if this was the horse that people were talking about as well as if what I read I understood correctly.

[bornfreenowexpensive]

I was only curious to see if this was the horse that people were talking about as well as if what I read I understood correctly.


Sorry...I only quoted you because I thought that you were correct and that was where people were getting the idea.....but yes, that is the stallion.

[RubyLink]

Sorry...I only quoted you because I thought that you were correct and that was where people were getting the idea.....but yes, that is the stallion.

No problem because it was my mistake since I ASSumed it was for me:) I just wanted to make sure I hadn't stepped on anyone's toes.

[Late]

Urban Sophisticate #18148
1992 bay TB Stallion
Criminal x HoF Leap of Faith
Eventing (Advanced)

and a couple others at that site http://www.ohwowcool.com/new/displayHorses.php?s=TBS
The site is hard to figure out, but it seems like they might have done advanced level eventing

I scrolled down to the bottom of that page: "This site is part of a Game and is not real." so there's your answer on that one :winkgrin:

[vineyridge]

Has Orujo de la Galerna made it to Advanced yet? I know he is a stallion and that he is competing this year under his owner.

His page is on Phyllis Dawson's website. He's a full TB.

[QHEventr]

Northlight! He is JC registered as Diamondham. I ran him Advanced, and he is absolutly full TB. Most of the advanced horses are TB"s

[EiRide]

From being on other lists with him, I would say Steuart has always said Willy is the only TB stallion *currently* standing who has competed Advanced. I don't think he has made any historical claims, and certainly not about TB mares and geldings.

The point is, and has been, that the stallion is the only TB currently available who has gone to Advanced in eventing, and if you want a sport bred eventing horse, Salute the Truth is your man for TBs or Warmblood mares.

[TrueColours]

Rather Well up here in Canada is a full TB, is a stallion, and is currently competing at the Advanced Level

And again - not to take ANYTHING away from Salute The Truth who is a phenomenal stallion by all accounts, but anytime you state that something is "the only" of anything, you need to check literally daily to make sure your claims are still valid ... :)

[Ajierene]

Rather Well up here in Canada is a full TB, is a stallion, and is currently competing at the Advanced Level

And again - not to take ANYTHING away from Salute The Truth who is a phenomenal stallion by all accounts, but anytime you state that something is "the only" of anything, you need to check literally daily to make sure your claims are still valid ... :)

The website does say "America's Only". so they may be talking about just in the US. In which case, Rather Well does not make their claim invalid.

[Ishi]

My husband's horse is an OTTB that he got straight off the track and is currently running Advanced on him. He is a gelding.

We have a 4 year old OTTB stallion who is just starting his event training. IF he can go up the levels, he gets to remain a stallion. The hopes are that he will be able to run Advanced. If not, he'll be one gorgeous and fancy gelding :D

This is his pedigree (http://www.pedigreequery.com/ky+brew). We are really excited about him and hopeful, so who knows, maybe in another few years down the road there will be another OTTB stallion going Advanced.

[clivers]

From being on other lists with him, I would say Steuart has always said Willy is the only TB stallion *currently* standing who has competed Advanced. I don't think he has made any historical claims, and certainly not about TB mares and geldings.

The point is, and has been, that the stallion is the only TB currently available who has gone to Advanced in eventing, and if you want a sport bred eventing horse, Salute the Truth is your man for TBs or Warmblood mares.

Exactly!
This quote is from Salute the Truth's website:
"That event made him the first Thoroughbred stallion in America to compete advanced since Denny Emerson's deceased Epic Win. "

Nice stallion, BTW!

[nappingonthejob]

Yeah, but what's easier, looking on someone's website to find the actual quote, or coming on a BB and trying to start shit? :rolleyes:

[horsecents]

The sire of the stallion vineyridge mentioned in her post jumped around Rolex in 1988 or 89. I remember watching him go around in this lovely rhythm and jumping all those big fence out of stride in wonderful form. They had mega time penalties but I think they were going for the safe trip.

[Erin Pittman]

Wow...I hadn't seen this one. As several have mentioned, Steuart advertises Salute the Truth as the only *American* stallion currently standing to have competed at the Advanced level. That will certainly change when another American TB stallion reaches that level - maybe it will be yours, Ishi? Good luck with him!

[sisu27]

Courageous Comet
Poggio
El Primero
Hollywood
That's just off the top of my head in 10 seconds--there are probably dozens more.

I think Salute the Truth's claim to fame is the fact that he's a stallion. :)

Wonderful Will and Madison Park....

Geldings though.

[JWB]

America's only Thoroughbred Eventing Stallion Proven at the Advanced Level


America's is a big qualifying statement there. I know there have been some really nice ones in GB and I'd imagine in NZ too. Also, he may be the only one currently but as Denny said, he's had a few of his own in the past....

[Carol Ames]

Jam and Bruce

[Carol Ames]

Might Tango

[Carol Ames]

How far back do you want to go?

[Carol Ames]

Better and better
Dr. Peaches
Quality Scope
Finvarra
JJ Babu

[Carol Ames]

Bally Cor!

[Carol Ames]

Furtive; must they be US breds?

[Carol Ames]

What was the name of the other :confused:grey horse of Bruces?; not a stallion but, dedfinitely an American tb. also Molokai"

[tbeventer]

Woodstock was is also a TB... placed 5th-- I believe at Rolex a few years back.
Lindsey Pozaryki's gelding she was short listed on in 2004--- Holy Gallant-- is TB
Jennifer Wooten's mare, The Good Witch is also a TB, albeit Irish bloodlines
I believe Sarah Hansel's gelding was also a TB...

I think it's like asking if there are International snowboarders from the US. Ofcourse, because we have been pretty much dominating the sport for the last few years!


I ride a Storm Cat grandson (by Delineator) and he's VERY successful at Intermediate, moving up to Advanced in the spring. The horse thinks that Intermediate is play time, rather than something to be taken seriously! There are numerous other half siblings to him (also by Delineator) that are also successful Intermediate/Advanced horses.

[Outyougo]

The better question is what NON TB's are eventing at the Advanced level
Of is the OP question regarding STALLIONS?

See the Movie Milrago Beanfield WAR about a horses gender causing disputes

[Carol Ames]

Have we decided it is American Tbs of any gender:confused:?Doesn't or didn't Phillip have a couple?

[EiRide]

Have we decided it is American Tbs of any gender:confused:?Doesn't or didn't Phillip have a couple?

Steurt's adverts for Salute the Truth indicate he is the only American TB currently standing who has competed Advanced.

This is not negating the competitive records of all the great TB mares and geldings, nor does it touch on TB stallions of the past. It also makes no claims for Canada, Mexico, Europe, etc.

[takethestage]

What was the name of the other :confused:grey horse of Bruces?; not a stallion but, dedfinitely an American tb. also Molokai"
Are you thinking of Cruise Lion?

Buck has L.A. Albert and Titanium, Boyd has Neville Bardos and Ying Yang Yo (though they are Aussies, but same thing), Jane Sleeper's UN, Tara Ziegler's Buckingham Place, Leyland's doing well... plenty of great examples from the last year or so.

[Fred]

The better question is what NON TB's are eventing at the Advanced level
Of is the OP question regarding STALLIONS?




I'm still not clear what the original question is. Thoroughbreds?? or Thoroughbred STALLIONS?

Perhaps the OP could clarify??

Certainly there are many, many TBs competing and who have competed at Advanced.
TBs continue to dominate the higher levels.
One of my homebreds, My Romance, (A Fine Romance x Macassa) competed at Advanced, and went on to be a winning GP Jumper.

[Carol Ames]

Are you thinking of Cruise Lion? Nope:no:, this horse did very well for Bruce and was definitely TB, rather narrow chested:winkgrin:, not at all substantial looking:no: I saw him for the first time at Middleburg H. T. as I recall he went on to do very:yes: well for Bruce, this would have been in the 1980ies; Bruce had just gotten Dr. peaches at the time also had Donauschimmer,;) and JJ:); I recall vividly standing at the SJ withe Coulters , who owned Dutch, and thinking WHOA!:lol: How fortunate can one man be:confused:?

[Carol Ames]

The one I was trying to remember, I think was Pilot:yes: Kid!

[Carol Ames]

also, Mystic High, Heyday!:yes:

[Carol Ames]

Dr. Peaches,
Irish Cap, Plain Sailing

[Lori T]

My daughter's mare, Impulsive, (now retired) evented Advanced with her previous owner, Jane Brownlow. She is full TB.