Neighbor troubles..sigh WWYD

[RacetrackReject]

Monday of this week, when I turned in my drive, I noticed that my neighbor's wife/gf was at my perimeter fence with 2 small children standing at the fence. One of the kids could not be more than 18 months and was holding on the fence for support. 2 of my horses were at the fence and she was trying to get my other one to come over. I parked and let my dogs out to potty and stood in my front yard giving her the death stare.

I could hear her talking to my horse, the other 2 had walked off. She was asking him if he wanted an apple (he doesnt' eat them) and she sent her husband/bf into the house to get him one. H/BF came back out and she said "hurry up and get me an apple". He said, "they aren't any good". She said "bring it anyway, it won't hurt them." At this point I bellowed across the field "DO NOT FEED MY HORSES ANYTHING!!" and she ran into the house with the kids.

The next day, I am at work, but my mother is visiting. She calls and says the neighbors are shooting in their backyard. My property borders theirs on 2 sides, right and behind. My mother walked outside to see if she could see which way they are shooting as the horses are out and she sees a female deer standing in my drive, next to my truck. Of course we start wondering if they were trying to shoot a deer in my back yard.

Yesterday, I had noticed that the night critters and barn cats had brought up some fish parts. The only pond around is mine, on my property, and I stocked it this year. I made a remark that I hoped the neighbors weren't stealing my fish.

So, I get another call today. My mother just caught 2 guys (neighbor and another) coming from my pond with a cooler and fishing poles. When they caught sight of her, they dropped the cooler and froze. When they realized that she was not going inside, they picked up their stuff and headed to the house and went inside.

What would you do if it were you?

For a little background, I have rarely spoken to the neighbors because they few times I have, they gave me the creeps. They knew way too much about where I worked, what I did, what times of day I was gone, etc. The regularly have loud drunken screaming matches at 2am complete with driving crazy, peeling out, etc.

[Luckydonkey]

I think you need a bull.... or at the very least a nasty looking steer- one with horns... or a big pasture pig... I woul suggest police too- but they sound like they feel they are "above the law"...as far as them knowing about your work, etc...be careful what you put in your garbage can as far as mail, etc is concerned...

[JohnDeere]

I would put in invis fence & get a really big dog.

Yeah they can kill it but Im sure youd hear about it!

[Chester's Mom]

Guard Geese!

[Jaegermonster]

You said your property is perimeter fenced. Are they climbing your fence?
Can you put hotwire on the sections they use?
I second the big dog thing too, and/or the bull.
If it isn't perimeter fenced over there, then fence it, post it and put a hotwire on it. And lock the gates.

See if you can get someone to watch until they trespass on your place, then quietly call the police.

[cloudyandcallie]

This depends on your state, so check with your local sheriff to see if this is the correct method for you or if you need to do something else.
Post no tresspassing/hunting/fishing/swimming/violators will be prosecuted signs every 50 ft on your property line. Put up a no climb fence, altho it costs more, it is worth the peace of mind.
Hand a "notice of criminal trespass" to the people whom your mother saw on your property. This should state that they are not to come back onto your property at any time or for any reason, and that you will prosecute them if they do so.
Build an earthen berm between you and your neighbors. Dirt, manure, anything, as then bullets wont come thru. Do so just inside your fence line. Make sure you fence is not on the property line, but is one inch inside the line. Then they shouldn't be touching your fence.
In some states you have to register your "no trespassing/hunting/fishing" at the courthouse, so ask your sheriff what the law is and he should give you a copy of it.
People do retaliate. They shoot your dogs, your cows, and might even shoot your horses. So make sure you keep your animals away from the fence until they produce enough manure to give you an 8 ft berm.

[RacetrackReject]

My entire farm perimeter is fenced. The field where the pond is was supposed to be for me to put a cow, so it is fenced in barbed wire where the rest of my farm is pipe welded fencing.

I decided to call the sheriff's department and they said to post no trespassing signs, but I don't really think that will do anything. In any event, it is on record that I called.

After thinking about it for a while, I also decided to call a friend of mine who is a game warden. He said that what they did is poaching and illegal and he is going to come out tomorrow morning. He wants to bring some GWs in training to do a full investigation so they have field experience on how to do it. He said that he can work it so I look like the good guy trying to save their ass, but get his point across enough that they will never do it again. He is also bringing me a package on how to mark my trees in a way that tells people that it is not legal to hunt on my land. I never heard of this but he said that signs do no good because the poachers tear them down and say they didn't see them, but they cant' cut down the trees, so you mark the trees and anyone who has a hunting license knows about it through the required hunter safety courses in our state.

So anyway, I guess we will see how that goes.

I do have a very large dog (GSD), but, being a responsible dog owner and having a fear that someone might shoot her, she is not allowed to roam free. I also have a JRT who is far more ferocious than the GSD =).

I do have a portable electric fence and I made a comment this morning about putting it up out there.

I went out just a few minutes ago and took photos.. They neighbors have a path worn from their house to my pond and even left their fishing rod holders stuck in the ground at the pond.....

[JanM]

Are they owners or renters? If you don't know find out. And as the sheriff and game warden said post your property according to the state law, I would make a formal complaint with the sheriff since you have evidence of continued trespass and poaching. Start keeping a log of all incidents, and names of witnesses, and take photos of all evidence and the path they've worn on your property. It's probably time for a visit from a nice deputy and a letter from your lawyer. I hope a warning and the signs make an impression and they leave you alone.

Since they apparently are renters then I would have the sheriff and lawyer contact the owner also. And I would pay the sheriff's deputy (that's who delivers summons etc here) to deliver the lawyer's letter that Cloudy talked about to the renters. Maybe if you make it hot enough for them they'll leave-my drug dealing neighbors have finally departed and abandoned their property after six years of police and other legal attention so there's hope for you too. And under no circumstances would I ever go on their property. Years ago I lived in New Mexico and we were always seeing little news stories about homeowners/renters in Texas shooting someone that came on their property-at that time it was apparently legal to shoot anyone on trespassing on your property after dark (I hope they changed that but don't take chances with angry neighbors). And I know I sound paranoid but if they come over don't let them in, or answer the door-better to be safe than sorry. You might also want to put in motion lights and fake (or real) video cameras also.

[RacetrackReject]

I think they are renters. I tried to purchase the property when I bought mine so that no one could move in since it sort of sits in my property, but the owner wanted a ridiculous amount and refused to come down. After speaking with other neighbors they said the property had been priced that for years and several of them had try to purchase it as well and were told the same. I'm guess these people didn't purchase it for that amount unless they paid cash as it would never appraise for that asking amount and, not trying to sound snotty or anything, but I don't think they could afford to do that.

[Jaegermonster]

Put up the signs like the officer told you to do.
They may disregard them but it gives the officers another enforcement tool and puts you in a better position should something happen.

[FatPalomino]

Get this sign:
http://halfbackflanker.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/tresspassers.jpg

And send your mom outside, packing some heat on her belt, in the form of one of these that she's not afraid to use:
http://www.brickhousesecurity.com/m-18.html

[fivehorses]

One of the above posters gave me an idea...what about putting up a video camera at the pond, showing them in the act.
I think they have the kind for wildlife, and it records and is set off by motion detectors.
I would post the property and say video surveillance, trespassers will be prosecuted. It was something I needed to do for my neighbor(man do I hate bad neighbor relationships).
The downside to taking the offense, is sometimes these people than take it out on you or your animals. I don't like living in fear, but its also reality.
I am sorry you are going through this. Its awful.

[ESG]

I do have a portable electric fence and I made a comment this morning about putting it up out there.

Yeah, and put a sign on it - "Pee here." They're probably stupid enough to try it. :lol:

I went out just a few minutes ago and took photos.. They neighbors have a path worn from their house to my pond and even left their fishing rod holders stuck in the ground at the pond.....

Oh. My. God. Can you say chutzpa?!?!?!?!? :eek::mad::eek::mad::eek::mad::eek: Either that, or the most stupid people to tread the planet.

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but do they know that that is your pond that you stocked for your enjoyment, and that they're not welcome? Maybe the owner gave them the impression that you'd be okay with them fishing there? Just a thought. What a bunch of boneheads. :no:

[ReSomething]

. . . . Maybe the owner gave them the impression that you'd be okay with them fishing there? Just a thought. . . . .

This is not outside the realm of possibility you know. We lived on a private road and the road passed through our lot and the creek that bounded our lot, with a little beach and swimming hole, and an RE agent showing the house three doors down walked her clients down to our property and showed them the 'lovely little creek to enjoy in the summer'.

NOT. If these are renters I'd be giving the landlord a little grief just in case, too.

[nightsong]

Yes, desinitely contact the landlord. In some cases they are actually responsible for what goes on at their place. And they have CONTROL of these people; sadly, you don't.

[MrWinston]

Our property used to be a local site for four wheeling parties before we bought it. Beer bottles galore. That's why I fenced 19 acres in no climb and put in a front gate. Still had a problem with a neighbor's two dog aggressive boxers digging in and jumping my 3 Dobermans. Long story short, AC and police reports, over 100 ft. of privacy fence (to prevent fence fighting), barbed wire dug in under fence, and a court date later...........peace has been restored.

It is such a shame and such a daily aggravation when you have a bad neighbor. I felt like I was being invaded. The Dobes are a great deterrant of humans though, the UPS guy won't even come in the gate. Although the dogs aren't outside unsupervised, I'm sure the word is out that they are here.

I hope you get a lock on these people. Posting and gathering evidence sound like good ideas. Hopefully the GW visiting and investigating will get their attention.

[2DogsFarm]

You've already gotten some good advice here.
Getting your GW friend out sounds like a plan that may work.

I agree with ESG - these boneheads may think the pond is common property. Maybe the previous owner of your place let other people use it?

Too bad you got off on a bad foot with these morons.
Creepy or not, as my Mom used to say:
"you can catch more flies with honey than vinegar"

I have oddball neighbors too but I've made them think I am on their side so at least they ask before doing oddball things on my property.
Example: I caught weird neighborlady (I call her my Gladys Kravitz - remember Bewitched?) feeding my horses one of those little alfalfa bales used for hamsters. She told me her (grown) son's hamster had died and she thought the horses would like it.
:mad: Arrrggghhh!
I told her it is important for me to always know what my horses have eaten, so if they get sick I can trace the source.
Now she always asks if she can feed them and gets my approval before giving them a "treat".

Hope you get your weirdos under control!

[mlranchtx]

Hmmm, I hate crappy neighbors because I want to be a HUGE jerk but always have to restrain myself because I'm too scared about what they will do when I'm not home. :no:

We caught 2 adults and 2 children dove hunting on our pond last year. My hubby got mad because I made the kids cry and told them they'd probably go to jail. I. DO. NOT. CARE. about someone else's kids. They were tresspassing!!!! I work my butt off to pay for my land so I can enjoy it. Not someone else. In retrospect, I should have made them empty their bags and give me the dove they shot on my property. Not sure if that would have been legal but I had my shotgun and was acting CrAzY so I don't think they would have argued. :D:D:D:D

I think you've gotten pleny of good advise, I would for sure:
Post no trespassing signs
Put up hotwire and spend the money for a GOOD charger
Paint the trees/fence (I think it's purple that signals no trespassing/hunting)
Call the land owner every time you have a problem. They might get sick of hearing about it.
Have that GW come out and do what he can.
Call the Sheriff.... Have the Sheriff come out and issue a Criminal Trespass Warning if they will do it... It's basically a piece of paper that says "you've been warned"
Put up a game cam so if they do come back you have evidence :-)

Good luck.... Neighbors suck :mad:

[RacetrackReject]

Thanks for all of the help guys.

The neighbors moved in after I bought my place, so not sure how they would have gotten the idea that it was ok since they never asked. The house wasn't listed with a realtor or anything, just FSBO. It was a shack actually, a teardown. To be honest, I originally thought the people that moved in were squatters. They showed up right after Hurricane Ike with tons of stuff packed into 2 trucks. The didn't unpack the trucks for over 2 weeks and it was a good month and a half before they had electricity there. I could hear their generator running at night for power and also, they came over to get the number off of my meter so that they could get power turned on. I called and verified that they needed MY info to get THEIR lights turned on with the power company..lol.

I know they may try and retaliate, but I'm not one to let myself be walked on. After the GW leaves today, my mother is shutting the horses out of the pasture near their house as a precaution. At night, the horses will have to stay in the barn area or my arena so I can see them. I do have cameras on my house already and I'm moving one down to the barn this weekend. My dogs are kenneled or in the house with me and only allowed out when supervised to play and use the restroom in the area immediately around my house. I know you cant' protect them 24/7, but I will do what I can the best I can.

My GW friend has also stated that if he felt it was needed, he will impress upon them that, as he put it and I'm sorry that it's a bit crude..lol, if they so much as pass gas in my direction hard enough to ruffle the hair on anything at my house, they will, without question, immediately go to jail. It seems that GWs have far more power than cops do in some respects. He said that he already had enough evidence to be able to search their house for illegal game if he wanted to.

We will see how it goes.

When I first moved in, I had an issue with other neighbors' dogs being in the pastures. It didn't bother me so much really, but I was worried for their dogs health as one of my TBs will go after and kill in a dog in a heartbeat. Those neighbors rolled up my driveway on their gator one day to say hi. I told them that I wasnt' trying to be mean or anything, but that I was afraid that their dog might get hurt if he was in the pasture with my horses, so it might be in their best interest to keep him home. I got the eye roll *whatever* look from them, then, just at that time, as if on cue, their dog runs up to my pasture fence and my TB comes charging full force across the pasture, slams into the fence by the dog, pawing and striking. I never saw their dogs loose at my house again..lol.

I am ROFLOLing at your post mlranchtx. That was great!!

[ESG]

Sounds like you have an extremely valuable ally in the GW. Make sure asshat neighbors see you being buddy-buddy with him. They might take a notion to behave themselves. :winkgrin:

Are you sure they're not squatters? Not that I know everything, of course, but this is the first time I've heard of having to call a neighbor to get one's electricity turned on. :confused: Also, I think I'd be having a conversation with that RE agent who so graciously offered your creek and pond for public enjoyment. As you said, "NOT!!". :mad:

And the fact that they showed up right after Ike makes me suspicious, too. There were a lot of things that went pear shaped after the storm hit, and a lot of agencies too busy with cleanup to keep track of everything they should have.

Good luck. I've had bad neighbors, and they're a nightmare.

[YankeeLawyer]

The sheriff was not concerned that they discharged a firearm so close to residential property? That would be illegal where we are located.

[Cielo Azure]

Ponds...an attractive nuisance. I know, i have one. When people pull up in their trucks to BEG me to allow them to fish, I have to turn on my mean, hairy eyeball and say NO. It irritates that heck out of me that people actually have the gall to pull on to my property to fish. Even worse, people will sneak in at night to catch frogs to eat.

May I suggest, "no fishing" signs also be placed at your entrance and around the pond. See...fishing requires taking something (fish), this then becomes theft or attempted theft. It is pretty easy for the police/sheriffs to bust/ticket on fishing. They can get them for tresspassing and theft AND no having a fishing lisence (in some states).

Easier than getting them on tresspassing, which the police often like to blow off with a warning.

[RacetrackReject]

So the GWs are over at the neighbor's house as I type. They said they will stop back by and let me know what went on and the general vibe they got from the guys. They are writing the people warnings as well.

Also, I may have stumbled into something bigger by accident. It appears that there is a ring of guys selling catfish and deer meat (2 commodities disappearing from my land) for drugs in the town where I live. The GWs think it may be MY fish and deer they are selling. They said they have been working on trying to bust the guys for weeks now.

As to the Sherriff's dept., I called them, they said to put up signs, but they would have an officer call me. No one ever called back. I have lived in this area, not the same town, but same area for about 7 years now. I have had the occassion to call the police 4 times now and not once has anyone ever showed up. Not even when I was in my car with a large man beating on my window trying to get me to let him in, all while sitting in my driveway.

[mlranchtx]

I hope it goes well! The GW has much more power than police or sheriffs in TX, I promise. :yes:

I can relate to having a worthless Sheriff Dept. I am a cop. In town. But I live 45 NE of civilization and the Sheriff's Dept out here is a JOKE. 911 is probably the last number I'd call. It's pathetic. But, where I live they pay the sheriff's deputies $26K/year, what can you expect? I wouldn't work in law enforcement for that kind of money.

Yes, sometimes trespassing is not taken seriously. I have taken people to jail for trespassing here in town but I bet if I called the sheriff where I live, they wouldn't even show up. It's sad really.

I'm glad you have a go-getter GW to help you. Next time I catch someone poaching/fishing on my property I know who I'm going to call.

Keep us posted!! You might have busted up a does-for-dope ring :D

[RacetrackReject]

I heard back from the GW so I thought I would update. He said that the neighbors were very apologetic about taking our fish. They said they didn't know we had paid to stock the pond (because that makes it better??) and they offered to come over and apologize in person. My friend told them that they needed to not even think about coming onto my property for anything. Then, they searched the house. While they did not find any deer from property, what they did find was illegally caught alligator, so ended up having to fine them for that and seize the goods. The neighbors were NOT happy about that but my friend told them that the alligator had nothing to do with me. He also told them that I had his cell phone number and if I had any problems with them, all I had to do was call him and he would come back to their house and he would be nowhere near as nice as he was this time.

[trubandloki]

So, in their eyes it is OK to take the fish if you did not pay for them, but not OK if you did?

I am glad the GW took care of it.

[CatOnLap]

Holy cow...err..alligator!

I just caught my neighbour pouring fresh lawn clippings onto the verge that I own beside my fenced horse field. She does it to keep the weeds down- and she clips the weeds. She forgot that last year I asked her not to do that because the little beggars will poke their heads through and eat them. I reminded her nicely. She not only stopped, she raked up the ones she had already put down.

That's about as much neighbourly drama as I want nowadays!

[RougeEmpire]

WOW sounds like your neighbors are not the kind of people anyone wants to live next to. Honestly with the whole DRUGS thing coming up I would be very careful and not let your guard down. These people are POACHING, coming on your property and appear to be related to the illegal drug industry. If these people really are trading wild game for drugs you really truly have stumbled onto a very nasty situation that unknowingly put you in the middle of it. Keep your doors locked, listen up when your dogs bark and if you don't have a NASTY guard animal in your pastures I suggest you get one. People involved in the drug trade rarely stop, even those under investigation by the police. If your neighbors are infact a part of this 'game meat for drugs' industry in your area then its unlikely they will stop coming on your property or poaching your animals.

[equineartworks]

This is not outside the realm of possibility you know. We lived on a private road and the road passed through our lot and the creek that bounded our lot, with a little beach and swimming hole, and an RE agent showing the house three doors down walked her clients down to our property and showed them the 'lovely little creek to enjoy in the summer'.

NOT. If these are renters I'd be giving the landlord a little grief just in case, too.

I still live with this after 10 years of being here and making it VERY clear that our property is not for the towns recreational use. I kid you not, these are some of the things we have had over the years:

Neighbor woman walks through three yards to walk her dog in my then vacant pasture. When asked what she was doing she said "Well my yard is so small and you have all this space all nice and mowed we thought we we walk here" Yeah...she really did think it was ok to just walk into someones back yard and walk her dog there.

Then there was the guy who set up the tree stand in my back field to hunt deer. He said "I know the guy who owns this land and he gave me permission to hunt here". When I politely told him that the last man who lived here prior to my husband had died in 1962 (and this yodel was all of 30) he proceeded to get belligerent with me and told me I didn't know what I was talking about. I went and grabbed a chain saw and set him straight :D Haven't seen him again...

Then there were the other neighbors who decided that they would take a "nature walk" through our yard with pruning scissors and cut branches for a science project.

Then there were the people who rode their 4-wheeler with the little kid on his lap and beer can in hand (and no helmets) in my back yard.

Then there was the family that decided to "camp" up the hill from the back pasture. Complete with BONFIRE and fireworks.

The Sheriff, fire dept and DEC have been called so many times they have an access road just for their use :lol:

So these days I start and end each day with the thorough walking trip around the entire property to check fencing, signage and look for damages. It has been fairly quiet in the past two-three years but that can change overnight and I am not going to take any chances.

[HuntJumpSC]

equineartworks~ you're sure you don't live down here in SC??? Or did a bunch of Horry County's finest move up your way? :winkgrin:

[YankeeLawyer]

Also, I may have stumbled into something bigger by accident. It appears that there is a ring of guys selling catfish and deer meat (2 commodities disappearing from my land) for drugs in the town where I live. The GWs think it may be MY fish and deer they are selling. They said they have been working on trying to bust the guys for weeks now.
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I would be very careful. There may be a reason why the local police are unresponsive to your calls.

[JanM]

It sounds as if you're going to have to pay the sheriff's deputies or constable (it varies from place to place) to serve a no trespassing order on the losers since they don't want to come out for anything else no matter what apparently (of course, they are probably so shorthanded that I can almost understand them not showing up-here there is only one deputy on patrol for the entire county because of personnel shortfalls). Has anyone contacted the actual owner of record to find out if they did lease to these people? Or are they squatters that they decided to lease to because it was too hard to evict them? I wonder if the owner may be liable once he knows about the tenant's activities? I love that the GW is so proactive about this. Maybe if they get enough attention to their activities it will persuade them to move somewhere more private.

Equineartworks--that's truly bad when they have to make an access road. My sympathies on your troubles. I certainly know what living with bad neighbors is like, and I love the chain saw story.

[RacetrackReject]

It just keeps getting better...

After the GWs left, the only vehicle at the neighbor's house left. Not too terribly long after that an ambulance showed up and the paramedics went into the house. Then the cops showed up and the ambulance took a guy from the house away with the cops following.

Equineworks- I truly feel for your situation. I would be known as the crazy lady that screams at and brandishes a gun at anyone who gets on her property if I lived there.

[chai]

My condolences. I had neighbors similar to yours when I lived in ME and it was Hell on Earth to the point where we sold the farm of my dreams.

My advice to you is:
1. Sit down with the Chief of Police and lay out the scenario. If your town is like the little town where I lived, the Chief will do nothing but you will be on record with your complaints and concerns in case someone is injured or they threaten you.
2. Document. Get a cam corder and videotape the fishing expeditions onto your property, the shooting and any other behavior that invades your space.
3. Hot wire can be your friend. Line your fence.
4. This may sound extreme, but after the Chief in our town refused to do anything about 24/7 parties, atvs, and even a male empowerment cult my skeezy neighbor brought in on weekends as a money making venture, we hired a private investigator. The man next door, whom the Police Chief told us 'was harmless' turned out to have a criminal record a mile long including drug arrests, b & e with a weapon, escape from jail, felon with a firearm, etc.
Sadly, after one Saturday afternoon where our neighbor brought his friends over for a beer/automatic weapons picnic, we made the decision to move. The people who bought our property invited his whole gang over and they all became friends, so there is the right home for anyone, I guess.
Good luck to you. Be careful and stay safe.

[JanM]

Racetrack-I hope you live where they list the ambulance calls in the paper, or where they do stories on minor incidents. It certainly would be interesting to find out what happened.

In addition to the trespassing, and poaching it must be a horrible feeling to wonder if the horses are safely away from them-the legal liability of some fool bringing her little kids over to play with the horses makes me want to scream. Hopefully this latest incident combined with the housecalls from the GW will persuade them to leave for (pardon the expression) greener pastures.

[ESG]

The whole "does for dope" and "catfish for crack" thing would scare the crap out of me. I'm delighted that GW is keeping a close eye on your neighbors. But alligator?!?!? It's legal to hunt them in some places (LA and FL come to mind), but if the neighbors are already poaching on a federal level (and yes, it is, with the 'gators), then you need to get them out of there ASAP.

Did you ever discern whether they were owners, or just renters?

[avezan]

It just keeps getting better...

After the GWs left, the only vehicle at the neighbor's house left. Not too terribly long after that an ambulance showed up and the paramedics went into the house. Then the cops showed up and the ambulance took a guy from the house away with the cops following.


Please keep us posted. This is better than a soap opera.

[tweeter]

Bumping for an update! Pleeeeeeeeeze:yes:

[MintHillFarm]

#1 posted on Mar. 30, 2009, 06:19 PM

Boundary Line Dispute - Vindictive Neighbor

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I will make a long story short...I had the boundary line surveyed after my non-horsey neighbor and I both noticed on-line, that the county had it all wrong in their ariel photo. The line the county had indicated as the boundary, was going through my top paddock, through my outdoor arena and large pond; all these improvements I paid to have put in years ago. My neighbor, thinking (wishing is more like it) that he owned more then he thought, approached me about it. I agreed to split the cost of the survey ($2300 each) and sent in my deposit. He agreed, though not in writing. Fast forward to today and the suvery is done, (the county had it wrong, he lost land and now has 19 acres not 25 and I have 45 instead of 40) AND he refuses to pay his share, has threatened to have anyone he deems is on his property (they are not) arrested and the kicker to it all is HE MOVED THE SURVEYORS MARKERS to where it suited him in the woods. The surveyors and I walked the property line today and they were very quick to point that out and where the markers were originally placed.
He denied it (of course), when after I called the police and the Trooper went up there. Now I have to pay to put the markers back (Not going too, he will only move them again) and take him to court if I want to press charges. What a pathetic person; to live lies like that! I am trying to look on the positive - the arena is mine and I have 5 more acres than I thought. I am really trying too, not to dwell (this is hard!) on this horrible person. I hope that his heart was beating a little faster when he answered the door and saw the police...
I also pray that he does not harm my horses, that has been my biggest concern. He has hunting rifles and a very bad temper, which I have seen. NOT a good combination...

[tweeter]

That's so scarey! Can you get those concrete corner markers? A lot of places use them, they'd be hell to move. In my next life, I'm gonna buy 1000 acres, put up a 20 ft. fence, and live smack dab in the middle of it.

[MintHillFarm]

The surveyors and I are going to re set the pins and flags as we get closer to hunting season. We will go in my woods from the state land side so he can't see us. I may also get video survaillance signs and post them along the correct line.

My neighbor is such a jerk, I have more than just one 4 letter word for him.

I have also given permission to two people to go ahead and hunt in my woods. I know my neighbor is all over my property during deer season and if that is the case, I want others back there that know the story. Apparently it is well known this guy is nuts. I am not a hunter nor do I want hunting on my property but this year I have to allow some imposing guys back there to keep an eye out, and they know the story.