Question about *C* line horses and rideability...

[Underdog]

of course I am refering to *Corde*.

Do they tend to be over achievers? More of a professional ride?
Very happy to work and go and forward?
This one trys to guess at what I want ahead of my delivery and she's only 4! She can get strong in her guessing game and I remind her to be patient. Too forward at times. Never EVER nasty. Never. especially for a mare!!!
She is a very very smooth ride and my god.....she LOVES to jump and actually tries to guess at that when we are working on lateral work.....she will actually drift toward the jumps!

It would be nice to hear from someone that has put some mileage on this lineage...more than one to get a baseline of course.

I know the mare of course is 50%....but when a stallion is very prepotent and very little of the mare is present.....it's all daddy this time, and in this case. I got what I asked for. ;)
I bred her mom, then I bred her. wow.

[avezan]

of course I am refering to *Corde*.
It would be nice to hear from someone that has put some mileage on this lineage...more than one to get a baseline of course.


I don't meet this criteria, but thought I would answer since noone else has yet. I have a Corde great-granddaughter. Corde/Condino/Createur She is very easy to ride. A little forward, if anything. You can give her months off, then hop on and continue as if she never had any time off. She can jump the moon. She is very perceptive, and will sometimes try to guess what we are doing next. The only stop we had on XC was when she made the decision herself what was the next fence on course, and we blew by the fence on our course. (That was a riding style error on my part, and we have since fixed it). Clinicians and instructors tell me what a good rapport we have and how well we communicate with each other (me and the mare!) I am a total amateur, so she is definitely not a professional ride.

I don't know if this helped at all, but maybe others will chime in. What is your mare's breeding?

[Mythology]

We use alot of Corde in our program, and my husband has quiet a few Corde rides, including his Grand Prix jumper. We love the Cordes- they have BIG jump (obviously), and are smart and usually a bit catty. We've found they have a tendancy to rear when pissed, versus my G-lines that stop and plant their feet. We've had some that are an ammy ride, most (8 out of 12 or more) that are very much a pro ride. They are usually light and sleek, depending on the other bloodlines of course, quick thinking, quick acting, and did I mention smart? We love them, they're my hubby's favorite ride! And you can line breed to him w/o doubling up on bad faults!

[Underdog]

I appreciate the feedback.
This is the first time I have used a C-line stallion. She is by Corlando (Calypso 11)
http://triadfarminc.com/id9.html, out of my Dutch (Argus) TB mare.

She looks absolutely NOTHIING like her mother, totally like her father. She does not ride like her mother either.
I am also an amateur and I am wondering about the ridability becasue she is exactly like what you both have described. She is very very light...you must be very still, and she is very forward.
She's only 4 and still has to learn how to carry herself and a rider, and is probably still growing.
My only complaint is how strong she gets.
Others keep suggesting a stronger bit, but I don't want to go there with a young horse.
This is my ONLY complaint. I will pick up dressage lessons for some *whoa* and balance...
but holy crap, this mare is SMART. I hope we can get past this is all....I totally LOVE HER!!

I just wondered where this came from as her mother needed spurs. ;-)

[Mythology]

that sounds about right- the C-line is very prepotent. I have a G-line mare
(old style, heavy, big, slow, but man can she JUMP) I bred to a C-line stallion- Foal is all C-line in personality and I'm sure will be quick and catty to ride- However I have a C-Line broodmare that is very catty and quick with a big brave jump that I bred to Voltaire- the colt is S L O W doing everything- Walking him down to the pasture takes 4ever. He's sweet and smart, but he's gonna need a cowboy rowel spur like no one's buisness! So there is always an exception to the rule, maybe he'll grow out of it?:D

[TKR]

I am hardly an authority on the "C" line, having one I bred/started (by Coromino) and a 2 year old Corlando. They both share a similar damline (TB - approved GOV MMB) - the Coromino out of the dam of the Corlando. That said, I see alot of similarity -- very sensitive, which is fine, because I love the Thoroughbreds' sensitivity. Corvette (x Coromino) broke out fine, he could be a bit stubborn, as can the Corlando, but nothing that you can't resolve without too much fuss. Once started, a delight to ride, very much the same from day to day and extremely trainable, very, very light to the aids -- he had a very soft mouth and responded to the slightest touch, so I didn't have any pulling problems. He was like a slinky -- bendable in every direction, dependent on the rider and easy to get round. Didn't do much jumping, but the talent was certainly there. Had an amazing canter from birth as does the Corlando, very elastic in every way with great cadence and rhythm. He is currently doing dressage in Virginia and his new ammie owner adores him -- very talented rider and attuned to her horse. He really needed a soft, understanding ride that gave him confidence. The Corlando seems to be alot like that, although more substantial. I think they respond well to a kind, gentle hand that stays very calm and confident. Try a KK bit and teach him what the word "whoa" means and use your seat and legs. Corvette was as light as a feather to the aids.
PennyG

[Maryanne Nicpon]

I'm not sure you can generalize, except perhaps with direct offspring of Corde. He had so many licensed sons that went on to perform and also produce more licensed sons. I think once you get a couple of generations away, the offspring may not be that similar. I have had two older mares, one of which was a direct Corde daughter and one is a Calando I daughter (making her a Corde grand-daughter). I did not know the Corde mare at all before she came to me in her old age, but she was an absolute sweetheart when I knew her. The Calando I mare is fine to handle as a broodmare and is a good mom. She jumped to Level 7 in her career, and was described as a "tenacious" competitor. I think she was not an easy ride. I then had a Cicero son (Cicero was a Corde son). This gelding was trhe absolute smartest horse I have ever been around. He was being trained in dressage, and you only had to show him something ONCE, and he knew it. We introduced a flying change kind of early on, and for weeks after, every time he crossed the center line he changed. In the process of selling him, I had a h/j person work with him a little. He went from trotting his first cavaletti to jumping a small course within a couple of days. Everything was so easy for him. I would take a whole barn full of them. I have had lots of others who had Corde a couple of generations back, but the stallions Contefino, Contester, Camiros, Conteur, Cunningham, Concerto Grosso and Cheenook. The majority have had very good, easy going temperaments for the most part.