Do I really need to take him to inspection???

[Piaffe~Passage]

Ok, I know I really should, but I do not plan on selling him. He will be a gelding, amd the closest inspection to me is in Southern Michigan. I am in Northern MN. If I were to bring him to inspection it would be to a KWPN-NA inspection. He is by Schroeder out of a TB mare. What are the pro's and con's of not bringing him verses bringing him?? TIA :)

[tuckawayfarm]

I would not take a young foal that far unless it was really necessary. Fortunately, the NAWPN offers registration by mail.

I'm not saying it would be a wasted trip. I enjoy inspections and have found them to be very educational, but that's further than I would be comfortable with for a ten minute critique.

Congrats on your foal! :)

[Tornado Run Farm]

Short answer, no, you don't need to take him.

I am in the same situation as you – 8 hr haul one-way to the nearest site. With a weanling filly last year, I chose not to - just didn't want to haul mare & foal that far. This year I plan to take filly as a yearling, but still not relishing the idea of that long haul by herself. The only reason *I* need to is because I plan on selling mine, and if she does well the exposure would be good. Too, it’s always nice to see others’ young horses and what other stallions are producing. But only 10 inspection sites for the US and Canada make logistics getting there very difficult.

[Mythology]

Contact the KWPN/NA you can register him by mail. It's nice to have papers on a gelding if you decide to sell him later, but the inspections not nessissary unless it's a potential breeding animal IMHO. :)

[YankeeLawyer]

I would register him by mail. I have a super Florencio x Jazz *filly*, and she was registered by mail as the nearest keuring was a bit far and I did not see much point in taking her as she will be presented at 3 anyway (only because she will be bred at some point).

If you were planning to sell him, the keuring is a nice opportunity to get him some exposure to potential buyers, get some nice photos and videos for marketing, and hopefully get some favorable comments from the inspectors.

[Indy-lou]

What do you guys think is a reasonable distance to haul a mare and foal? I am looking at having to haul from Northern CA (basically from the Oregon border) to Tacoma Washington. Or, going the opposite (and likely to be much hotter) direction to DG Bar in Hanford (Visalia). Either direction I figure it is at least 8 hours. Would you do it? I think I'd rather go to WA, as the temperatures are likely to be milder.

[Renae]

KWPN and KWPN-NA do not do foal inspections for studbook. Your horse would be inspected for upgrade from foalbook to studbook papers as a 3 year old. I think a lot of KWPN geldings spend their whole lives with foalbook papers, having a gelding inspected is not necessary unless you are wanting to promote the sire or dam.

The inspection classes for foals, yearlings and two-year olds at a KWPN keuring are basically FYI and for bragging rights.

You always do your initial registration for foalbook paper by mail with the KWPN/KWPN-NA. They have to have their foalbook papers before they can go to the keuring.

[bloomingtonfarm]

What do you guys think is a reasonable distance to haul a mare and foal? I am looking at having to haul from Northern CA (basically from the Oregon border) to Tacoma Washington. Or, going the opposite (and likely to be much hotter) direction to DG Bar in Hanford (Visalia). Either direction I figure it is at least 8 hours. Would you do it? I think I'd rather go to WA, as the temperatures are likely to be milder.


I traveled 10 hours last year from Maxville Ontario to Iron Spring Farm keuring with a mare and foal and everything went perfect. They all traveled very well. The normal travel time was 8 hrs or so but we took our time, stop several times for lunch and gas etc and arrived the day before. I was glad to see the foal lying down during the trip. They were fresh and willing the next day and the colt really did well.

I do all my best every year to attend a KWPN keuring as they are very professionally held and I always learn a lot from the judges.

[FriesianX]

I think the option of non-inspection for foal book is wonderful! Do register him - skip the inspection, or consider doing it at a later date (do they allow until 2 years old?).

I have an Oldenburg mare that I bought as an uninspected yearling (breeder just got overwhelmed with new baby, too many horses, and kind of gave up) - they only give you until the horse is 2 years old to be inspected and registered (and at least back then, inspection was REQUIRED). So I had one year - and ended up in major emergency surgery and off my feet for months. So the mare was never registered - I think a poor registry rule, but such is life. I'll admit, I wish she was registered - nice breeding (WolkyII/Graf G), fancy little mare - and at least AWS is open minded enough to take an adult.

So, moral of the story - do register him. Even if you intend to never sell him, you still don't KNOW if you might have to later on (never say never). And - if you intend to show him, it is always fun to qualify for breed awards, and as we see on this BB often enough, while the judge may not be impressed by the brand on his butt, many of the rail birds are more likely to be impressed:lol:

[YankeeLawyer]

So I had one year - and ended up in major emergency surgery and off my feet for months. So the mare was never registered - I think a poor registry rule, but such is life. I'll admit, I wish she was registered - nice breeding (WolkyII/Graf G), fancy little mare - and at least AWS is open minded enough to take an adult.



I am not familiar with the Oldenburg rules but I would be surprised if you could not petition them for an exception based on extenuating circumstances in order to get your mare registered.

[FriesianX]

I am not familiar with the Oldenburg rules but I would be surprised if you could not petition them for an exception based on extenuating circumstances in order to get your mare registered.

I don't know if they take petitions - it was several years ago (she's 8 now!). But they weren't very helpful or encouraging when I called to talk to them about how to get her registered.

[Piaffe~Passage]

Thanks everyone!! Yes, his papers are already in process with KWPN-NA. They are so wonderful to deal with. If there was a closer inspection I'd take him, but the haul to Ithaca Michigan, from where I am, would be a long one. I just wanted to get a view of what others thought on not taking him to an inspection. I wish there was a closer one, as like I said, I would take him.

[YankeeLawyer]

I don't know if they take petitions - it was several years ago (she's 8 now!). But they weren't very helpful or encouraging when I called to talk to them about how to get her registered.

I would bug them again, and if the first person is not helpful, I would ask to speak to someone else.