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Paris
Jul. 6, 2009, 11:06 AM
and does it really help the coat? and how much do you feed?

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thanks

ponyjumper4
Jul. 6, 2009, 11:16 AM
I really like Triple Crown's Rice Bran Oil, it's a mix of corn, rice bran, and flax oil. I've used it for shiny coats (2oz per day) and to add weight (4-8oz per day) and love it.

Riley0522
Jul. 6, 2009, 11:16 AM
Corn oil, 1 cup/2x a day. Yes it helps tremendously with weight and coat. He has some extra energy, but oh well.

BornToRide
Jul. 6, 2009, 11:19 AM
as unprocessed as possible - black oil sunflower seeds :)

spacehorse
Jul. 6, 2009, 11:31 AM
I use canola- everyone gets 2 ounces twice a day, except for the chubby pony.

Iride
Jul. 6, 2009, 01:13 PM
McCauley's Rice Bran Oil. Amazing stuff:

http://www.mccauleybros.com/supplements/products/rice-bran-oil.aspx?catID=ricebran

3 is the limit
Jul. 6, 2009, 01:30 PM
1 c. corn oil daily. Has helped with coat. Have not noticed any change in energy level for my WB, TB, or QH.

Peggy
Jul. 6, 2009, 02:09 PM
Triple Crown Rice Bran Oil (http://www.triplecrownfeed.com/rice-bran-oil-plus.php). Four ounces a day (a gallon lasts about a month). Coat looks better (shorter, possibly shinier) than it did on previous flax-powder-based supplements. He doesn't seem as itchy. And his tail looks better--the bottom part can definitely be attributed to the fact that I finally became a believer in the "don't brush your horse's tail" approach, but it is definitely thicker at the very top as well.

If you get it directly from TC and buy a case of four at a time it's $32 (no added s/h); bought individually from TC it's $38. Some feed stores carry it, but not a huge number.

I started it in part b/c he wasn't eating all of the powder so the TC oil not only substituted liquid for some of the powder, but makes the remaining powdered supplements harder to ignore in the feed (since they are now stuck to the food, along with the oil), and he loves the flavor so he really seems to be eating everything.

ponyjumper4
Jul. 6, 2009, 02:12 PM
If you get it directly from TC and buy a case of four at a time it's $32 (no added s/h); bought individually from TC it's $38. Some feed stores carry it, but not a huge number.

It's definitely better to get it from a dealer if possible. I think at my S.States it's around $28/gallon

deltawave
Jul. 6, 2009, 02:19 PM
Snake. :D

(not feeding oil right now as mine don't need it, but when I did it was usually corn oil, a cup a day or thereabouts)

amastrike
Jul. 6, 2009, 02:24 PM
Canola. I don't measure, but it's probably 1-1.5 cups.

foggybok
Jul. 6, 2009, 02:26 PM
Snake. :D

(not feeding oil right now as mine don't need it, but when I did it was usually corn oil, a cup a day or thereabouts)

LOL!:lol:

Same here, everyone is slick, shiny and in good weight on pasture alone right now except the old mare, and she is on Ultium (and also slick shiny and in good weight). It has plenty of fat, so no added fat needed.

But I have fed corn oil in the past if needed..... Also tried rice bran and flax seed oil with no apparent difference.....

Peggy
Jul. 6, 2009, 02:36 PM
It's definitely better to get it from a dealer if possible. I think at my S.States it's around $28/gallonUnfortunately, haven't found it that cheap around here. The sort-of close feed store has it for about $31, but then I'd have to pay tax. There's one a bit further away where it's $30+, but the gas plus the tax would eat up the difference.

sublimequine
Jul. 6, 2009, 03:35 PM
Usually vegetable because it's the cheapest, and I like to support soybean farmers. :D

I honestly think the whole "you MUST feed THIS oil because it's the BEST" thing. Fat is fat. :lol:

Semi75
Jul. 6, 2009, 03:50 PM
We feed EO3 oil (http://www.kerx.com/products/EO3/info.html) for the benefits of a marine based source of Omega 3 that goes further than just coat condition. Fat isn't just fat in all cases.

tcnhorsefeed
Jul. 6, 2009, 05:01 PM
"fat is not just fat" when talking about kinds of oils to add to the diet..if you feed corn oil only and feed large amounts of it, you can run into inflammatory issues as corn oil is only Omega 6's and they have an inflammatory effect. Omega 3's have an anti-inflammatory effect and research is showing that Omega 3's in the diet as well as having a balance of Omega 3's and 6's (a higher 3:6 ratio) is most benefical to the horse. While corn oil tends to be more palatable to the horse, oils or a combination of fish, flax, rice bran, soybean oil provide higher levels of 3's and they can benefit the skin, haircoat, hooves, joint health, skin allergies as well as the anti-inflammatory characteristics (help reduce pain and swelling) which can be very benefcial for performance horses. There is still a lot to learn and test, but studies have shown improved stallion fertility thus improving conception rates in mares. Pasture is a rich source of Omega 3's, so if you have a horse out on nice pasture for most of the day they may be getting plenty of Omega 3's...there really is a reason you see such a "nice shine" to pastured horses.

We will recommend you avoid corn oil or feed it in combination with another oil that has Omega 3's.

Dan
Jul. 6, 2009, 07:56 PM
I got Canola oil at Cosco (thru a friend) at $20 for a 5 gallon container.

DMK
Jul. 6, 2009, 08:01 PM
veggie oil - cheaper and less likely to spoil in heat. My hard keeper older horse gets 8oz/day and the youngster gets 4oz.

deltawave
Jul. 6, 2009, 08:01 PM
The jury is still out--WAY out--on whether the "pro-inflammatory" effect of Omega-6 fats is harmful or deleterious or even biologically relevant. Inflammation, after all, is natural, normal, and necessary in some degree in all living critters. It isn't all bad, just as anti-inflammatory properties of whatever substance are not all good. In the meantime, I do tend to agree that for a healthy horse who needs calories, fat is indeed fat.

Dan
Jul. 6, 2009, 08:05 PM
I think there was an article in Science news recently stating that Omega 6's were beneficial for humans.

The same probably applies for horses.

Dan

turningpointequine
Jul. 6, 2009, 10:00 PM
I really like Triple Crown's Rice Bran Oil, it's a mix of corn, rice bran, and flax oil. I've used it for shiny coats (2oz per day) and to add weight (4-8oz per day) and love it.

I use this too. I like how it is Omega 6 and 3 balanced. Coats look great and it put weight on my lactating broodmare.

Dianna
Jul. 7, 2009, 12:04 AM
One of the biggest problems in the horse world is people trying to compare human reaction to equine reaction when it comes to varying types of calories.

The longest-term research out there is that of Beth Valentine, which is now over two decades worth. Though her research was based on EPSM it became evident that horses without EPSM also benefit from added calories (over and above those from forage) coming from fat.

So far in the two decades of research and feeding fat (in amounts up to 20% fat to calories) she has not noticed any down side.

Interestingly, my horses don't seem to like the corn oil as much as they do the soy oil. So, for me, it's off to COSTCO and we buy the 35# (5 gal) containers of Soy (Veg.) oil.

I have found that the horse's have benefits that reach beyond a good coat - they have a more "balanced" way about them (mentally), it takes less feed over time and their bodies take on incredible changes - even obese horses who are switched to a diet balanced with fat tend to take on a different look - a rounder - tighter - fitter look.

BoysNightOut
Jul. 7, 2009, 05:43 AM
Vegetable Oil....because it's the cheapest, and I'm on a budget. My TB gets 3/4 cup AM & PM.

equineartworks
Jul. 7, 2009, 07:14 AM
Horses are all eating TC feeds and getting Omega Horseshine twice daily. So stinking glossy you need sunglasses to look at them in the shade. No extra oil needed.

DMK
Jul. 7, 2009, 10:06 AM
also for those of us in the south (and heat), corn oil can spoil, whereas soybean/veggie oil lasts longer. So I guess as far as 3's and 6's are concerned, we don't know what we don't know and until we know for sure, nobody really knows... :p and the cheaper stuff makes their coat just as shiny and has the same calories. That's a no brainer for me!

Tif_Ann
Jul. 7, 2009, 10:19 AM
I use Health-E-Oil (http://www.iowatelecom.net/~fosterhr/Healthe/feedadditive.html) ... but it's more expensive where I buy it. $15 for a gallon, but I buy the 5 gallon container for $60. The prices on that website are really really low :)

"Health E Oil provides extra calories for equine weight gain, body condition and fuel for performance. This weight gain liquid contains Omega 3 & 6 fatty acids, extruded with soy oil with added human grade Vitamin E."

My QH has mild wobbles and gets 6500 IU per day of Vitamin E. He gets about 1600 IU through the Health-E-Oil, as he gets 2 ounces per day. My mustang only gets 1 oz, doesn't need much more. They also get flax seed, so I'm not sure which one makes their coats so nice, but they both have beautiful, soft, shiny coats.