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Alterrain
Jul. 4, 2009, 04:47 PM
Will try to make a long story short:

A woman at my farm (rides with a different trainer) has two horses. They live in stalls at night, and get turned out in the day (together). Their field is very far (1/2 mile or more) from their stalls. This woman is an aquaintance of mine, and asked me to bring the horses in from their field at night. (She is out of town for a week, I ride after work, usually around 7pm.) In return, she said her husband could get my husband some Lakers tickets. (I married a Laker freak.) I said sure. Well, the one horse is a real PITA. Stops to eat grass every ten feet, and I cannot pull him. Even though he has just been turned out for 12 hours. The field is so far and it takes me SO long to get them in. So yesterday, I brought a crop with me, climbed the fence, and hopped on the PITA. (These guys are retired hunters, super mellow.) He went to eat, I popped him and we rode in (ponying his friend) without another pit-stop.

WELL when I get back to the barn, this woman (rides with a third trainer) who is a real holier-than-thou type announces that she saw me ride the horse, and she is going to turn me in to the USEF! (She unfortunately was in the ring when my friend asked me to bring the horses in) She said I was "training" the horse, and she is going to call monday morning to "out" me.

Sorry, that was not so short. My question is: Do I call the USEF (hopefully before her) and give them a heads upto my side of the story? Or does that make it seem I am trying to hide something? Or do I do nothing, assume she was blowing smoke, and hope that if she does call, the USEF will see how ridiculous this is and tell her to forget it?

Go Fish
Jul. 4, 2009, 04:55 PM
Hilarious...is she serious?

I'd tell her to stuff herself and go right ahead and call. I'm sure the USEF gets whack jobs like this calling all the time. If you're worried about the potential hassle, you can call the USEF, give them the scenario and get confirmation. It will probably give everyone in the USEF office a good chuckle on a Monday morning.

BAB
Jul. 4, 2009, 04:56 PM
Do not waste your breath or your penny calling USEF. You did nothing wrong. I'm a steward, deal with this stuff all the time and know that she has no case against you. Let it go and don't worry.

kid rock
Jul. 4, 2009, 04:58 PM
That woman is a nut and I would talk to the owner of the barn. You will not get in trouble for that. You do not work for the barn so you can ride it. I am sure the Laker tickets were not more than 300 dollars so trading for that would be fine.

Trixie
Jul. 4, 2009, 05:46 PM
She can't just "call Monday morning and 'out' you." She would have to file a grievance with the USEF, and IIRC, it costs several hundred dollars, and it's on her to provide the burden of proof.

Alterrain
Jul. 4, 2009, 06:19 PM
phew. Thanks! who knew walking a horse in from the field could bring me so much stress. :)

This lady makes me nervous; she does crazy sh!t.

She once accused one of the guys of "making" her horse founder so he didn't have to groom it anymore, she said he was letting her horse loose and into the feed room at night so she set up a video camera without telling anyone!

1. the horse was not foundering, he had begun not letting her catch him in the stall (spinning away). Why she thought this was an early sign of foundering is beyond me.
2. said video camera recorded HER TEENAGE DAUGHTER HAVING SEX in the horses stall with her boyfriend (summer barn help) while horse was being ridden. in the ring by her mom. which adjoins the aisle, thirty feet away!
3. she then announced to everyone that not only had she set up a camera to catch her horse being "made" to founder, but what the camera had recorded, and offered to let anyone watch it!

To my recollection no one took her up on the offer.

So she makes me nervous. :)

FrenchFrytheEqHorse
Jul. 4, 2009, 06:50 PM
phew. Thanks! who knew walking a horse in from the field could bring me so much stress. :)

This lady makes me nervous; she does crazy sh!t.

She once accused one of the guys of "making" her horse founder so he didn't have to groom it anymore, she said he was letting her horse loose and into the feed room at night so she set up a video camera without telling anyone!

1. the horse was not foundering, he had begun not letting her catch him in the stall (spinning away). Why she thought this was an early sign of foundering is beyond me.
2. said video camera recorded HER TEENAGE DAUGHTER HAVING SEX in the horses stall with her boyfriend (summer barn help) while horse was being ridden. in the ring by her mom. which adjoins the aisle, thirty feet away!
3. she then announced to everyone that not only had she set up a camera to catch her horse being "made" to founder, but what the camera had recorded, and offered to let anyone watch it!

To my recollection no one took her up on the offer.

So she makes me nervous. :)

As apeshit as the USEF can be, at times, regarding the ammy rule as it stands, I imagine that a woman of this...social capability... would have a hard time being taken seriously by the cashier at the grocery store, much less the review board. Methinks you should just wave to her next time you're riding the PITA to the barn.

jn1193
Jul. 4, 2009, 06:58 PM
Do not waste your breath or your penny calling USEF. You did nothing wrong. I'm a steward, deal with this stuff all the time and know that she has no case against you. Let it go and don't worry.

BAB is correct. First of all, you have to violate the ammy rule, which you didn't. Second, she has to file a protest at a rated show in which you are showing as an amateur.

But DO talk to the barn owner. This kind of drama no barn needs.

Don't stress on this one. There's nothing to stress about. (except what drama this idiot is going to cook up next.)

aspenlucas
Jul. 4, 2009, 07:20 PM
Methinks you should just wave to her next time you're riding the PITA to the barn.
I'd like to second this!

Jake's Dad
Jul. 4, 2009, 07:24 PM
now I have heard everything.....dont give it a 2nd thought....have a great 4th....

Zu Zu
Jul. 4, 2009, 07:24 PM
What a nut case - stay away from her! But certainly do not worry or give it another thought - you did nothing wrong.

mcm7780
Jul. 4, 2009, 07:33 PM
2. said video camera recorded HER TEENAGE DAUGHTER HAVING SEX in the horses stall with her boyfriend (summer barn help) while horse was being ridden. in the ring by her mom. which adjoins the aisle, thirty feet away!
3. she then announced to everyone that not only had she set up a camera to catch her horse being "made" to founder, but what the camera had recorded, and offered to let anyone watch it!


So she's in possession of what could be considered child pornography and is offering to allow others access to it? Does she not realize how much trouble that would get her into? Much more trouble than you would be in if you were to break the USEF ammy rule! :rolleyes:

mvp
Jul. 4, 2009, 07:54 PM
Do nothing. Wait for the USEF to call you. If they do, apologize for getting involved with a freak show who wasted their time. (Explain that sacrifices must be made for Lakers tix.) Laugh with the person you speak to. Send them a T-shirt from the game.

Then come down way harder on the people who ought to be nipping drama like this in the bud. If your mistake would lie in getting involved with known freakshows, then you need to nip your own do-gooding in the bud, at least with these folks.

Sorry this happened to you.

JanM
Jul. 4, 2009, 10:11 PM
Alter-this nutcase makes me feel better about my nutso relatives-now they seem so normal in comparison, and the next time we have a thread about barn psychos you have a winning entry. Don't ever be near this person, and if you find you are the only person at the barn besides this nut leave immediately-never underestimate how dangerous someone this delusional can be, or how dangerous. Be safe.

MintHillFarm
Jul. 4, 2009, 10:30 PM
Hilarious...is she serious?

I'd tell her to stuff herself and go right ahead and call. I'm sure the USEF gets whack jobs like this calling all the time. If you're worried about the potential hassle, you can call the USEF, give them the scenario and get confirmation. It will probably give everyone in the USEF office a good chuckle on a Monday morning.

I would go ahead and let her call too....what are they going to do? This sounds ridiculous at best. I'd wait it out and see what happens. You broke no laws or USEF rules that I know of! I'd doubt they are interested in this story except for a good chuckle!

Bubba Boo
Jul. 5, 2009, 09:23 AM
Ignore this lunatic and maybe she'll go away.:D

YankeeLawyer
Jul. 5, 2009, 09:30 AM
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2. said video camera recorded HER TEENAGE DAUGHTER HAVING SEX in the horses stall with her boyfriend (summer barn help) while horse was being ridden. in the ring by her mom. which adjoins the aisle, thirty feet away!
3. she then announced to everyone that not only had she set up a camera to catch her horse being "made" to founder, but what the camera had recorded, and offered to let anyone watch it!
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Well, if you really want to cause grief for that person you could call the police and report the above and she could go to prison for a good long time for child pornography.

TSWJB
Jul. 5, 2009, 10:20 AM
But DO talk to the barn owner. This kind of drama no barn needs.

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i agree with this statement! no barn needs this kind of drama. and if this woman continues she should be kicked out. i feel its up to management to stop this kind of behavoir.

SillyHorse
Jul. 5, 2009, 10:54 AM
2. said video camera recorded HER TEENAGE DAUGHTER HAVING SEX in the horses stall with her boyfriend (summer barn help) while horse was being ridden. in the ring by her mom. which adjoins the aisle, thirty feet away!
I just love a good laugh on a Sunday morning -- thanks! Don't waste another minute worrying about this nut case.

Star Creek
Jul. 5, 2009, 12:25 PM
Hope your hubbie got good seats !

sweetpea
Jul. 5, 2009, 12:34 PM
Give her a quarter and the phone number for USEF!!!!!

Horseymama
Jul. 5, 2009, 12:56 PM
I would report this woman immediately to Child Services. Offering to show videos of her teenage daughter having sex is very, very disturbing. It's not funny at all.

cute_lil_fancy_pants_pony
Jul. 5, 2009, 01:03 PM
Why is she not kicked out of the barn yet?

LetsRide
Jul. 5, 2009, 01:24 PM
Yet a person who has NO right ever doing that (adult jumper) division in terms of talent (bad eye, bad position, etc) is a "pro" because she teaches up-down to adult re-riders 3-5 pm 2 days a week for pocket money?


Why would you be even the least bit concerned and worried enough to make this thread, unless of course, what you wrote on your recent 'HYPOTHETICAL Ammy Vent' thread quoted above, might in reality, describe you?

:confused:

Tex Mex
Jul. 5, 2009, 05:39 PM
I'm in the process of protesting someone who really does have a training/sales business and it is expensive and taking a long time, and the piles of information I have still may not be enough to "bust" this person. There has to be a hearing and it's a very lengthy process, even with everything that I have to prove this girl is a professional. And I feel awful about it because it's taking so long and it does not feel good to get someone in trouble, even though she is breaking the rules. So you definitely do not have to worry, it is not as simple as it sounds.