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VAevent
Jun. 30, 2009, 10:06 AM
Help! I'm an event rider, so never had to think about height. But I'm considering buying a "pony" and want to make sure it's actually pony-size.

If he measures over 14.2, but under 14.3, is he technically a pony?

Thanks!

Seven-up
Jun. 30, 2009, 10:10 AM
No.

besttwtbever
Jun. 30, 2009, 10:10 AM
I believe the rule is not a hair over 14.2. We go back and forth on this issue at my barn. You may have to be under 14.2 and 14.2 may be considered a horse but I believe it is the former.

While we're at it not to hijack your post but related. What are the cutoffs for smalls and mediums?

joiedevie99
Jun. 30, 2009, 10:35 AM
14.1 7/8 is a pony. 14.2 is a horse.

larges are 13.2 to almost 14.2.

mediums are 12.2 to almost 13.2.

smalls are under 12.2.

leelee
Jun. 30, 2009, 10:41 AM
14.1 7/8 is a pony. 14.2 is a horse.

larges are 13.2 to almost 14.2.

mediums are 12.2 to almost 13.2.

smalls are under 12.2.

No.

A pony must not EXCEED 14.2 hands, but they CAN be at 14.2 hands.

Daventry
Jun. 30, 2009, 10:54 AM
Oy! So many different answers. Here is the CORRECT answer coming from a pony hunter breeder and judge. leelee is correct!

Under USEF rules, a large pony is over 13.2 HH and not exceeding 14.2 HH. Medium ponies are over 12.2 HH but not exceeding 13.2 HH and smalls are not to exceed 12.2 HH. So, a large pony can be 14.2 HH right on the nose. If they measure 14.2 1/8 HH, they are considered a horse. A pony measuring 13.2 1/8 HH would be considered a large, not a medium. Hope that makes sense!

To the OP, depends on what discipline you will be showing the pony in. Under FEI dressage pony rules, a pony can be 148 cm unshod or 149 cm shod. Meaning, your pony can measure 14.2 1/2 HH with shoes.

There are all kinds of things you can do to get "some" ponies to measure even if they are slightly over height. Example, a pony that measures 14.2 1/2 HH if you just pull him cold out of the barn and measure. Getting them trimmed right before the show, shaving their withers, working them down, etc. can all help get rid of that extra bit of height!

Silk
Jun. 30, 2009, 05:06 PM
Yes, to what Daventry says. For resale, you want your pony to measure as close to the "top" of the measurement as allowed. A 14.1 hand pony is generally more desirable than a 13.3 hand pony. The kiss of death is the 12.2 1/2 H medium! However, I do believe that Rollingwoods "L" on Wheels measured in at a lofty 12.3 H and won everything along the east coast!

Daventry
Jun. 30, 2009, 06:19 PM
The kiss of death is the 12.2 1/2 H medium! However, I do believe that Rollingwoods "L" on Wheels measured in at a lofty 12.3 H and won everything along the east coast!

Yep, that is correct. Wheels is 12.3 HH.

BearWithMe
Jun. 30, 2009, 08:13 PM
my friends pony is 13.2 1/8 :no:
he was very successful in the childrens though

Silk
Jun. 30, 2009, 09:39 PM
Yep, that is correct. Wheels is 12.3 HH.

I just loved him. I havent seen him around in a while. He needed a solid ride though or he woul get scared. his original jock (the Bates kid) was a great rider and gave him a great start. I know he had some issues at one point but came back well with the kid from Florida who campaigned him. What a nice pony he was/is.

There was a tiny large around then also...was it Me and My Shadow? I think that one was 13.3 or something and did the regular larges with style.

I just love pony underdog stories:) I remember these ponies mostly because a freind had a Benlea that ended up with a permanenet card that stated it was 12. 2 1/2

I remember how PISSED they were when they learned the traienr who got the pony measured had no clue about how to get a pony measured. That one could have come in as a small and been worth a mint. I never knew why they couldnt get it re measured.

PonyHunter70
Jun. 30, 2009, 09:56 PM
My larges card reads 14.2hh so I am 100% positive it is 14.2hh(included) and under are ponies. And as Daventry said 14.2hh and under is in the rules.

Tha Ridge
Jun. 30, 2009, 11:42 PM
Didn't Llandefalle Lady Slipper win Pony Finals as both a Small and Medium after getting protested? :lol:

Montanas_Girl
Jul. 1, 2009, 11:36 AM
I just loved him. I havent seen him around in a while.

Isn't he in middle TN now? The name sounds very familiar to me, and I don't really "follow" the ponies, so I must have heard it at a show at some point.