Which warmblood stallions are homozygous for dark colour

[paulamc]

Just wanting to know which warmblood stallions are homozygous for producing dark colours, even out of chestnut mares

Paula mc

[Oakstable]

Kovington, a Trakehner
Sagnol, multiple registeries

[Sonnenberg Farm]

Ampere, KWPN

[paulamc]

i should have mentioned which stallions that are available by frozen semen that are homozygous for dark colour, as i am in Australia and can only access frozen semen to all the great or new stallions standing at the major stud farms

paulamc

[cheekyhorse]

My stallion Pacific is homozygous for the black gene. He will be available frozen next year. (will be ONLY frozen next year due to my work schedule)

[Oakstable]

i should have mentioned which stallions that are available by frozen semen that are homozygous for dark colour, as i am in Australia and can only access frozen semen to all the great or new stallions standing at the major stud farms

paulamc

oh.

this is a forum heavily inhabited by NA and we don't know who is available to you in Australia.

[Mardi]

Ampere, KWPN

Help me with the genetics...

Ampere is by Rousseau who is hetero, so the dam Larivola was either hetero or homozygous.

Is that correct ?

[JB]

Right - in other words, Larivola could not have been chestnut :)

I just searched to try to find a picture of her but no such luck.

[Cataluna]

Rosenthal's another one, I believe.

[bloomingtonfarm]

Team Nijhof has several stallions who doesn't carry the red factor. This would only insure no chesnut but not necessary dark as it could be light bay.
Cantaruno
Verdi
Zento
Sandreo
Sir Oldenburg
Spiedberg

[ise@ssl]

Freestyle
Pik L
and my German Riding Pony Stallion Popeye

[selah]

Gatsby, who combines G-Line Hanoverian with Seattle Slew line TB. That would be an interesting combo for Australia.
http://www.foxdalefarm.us/gatsby.htm

[Dressage_Diva333]

Fabuleux :)

Not sure if there's any frozen available over seas for him though?

[DownYonder]

Most of the stallions suggested on this thread stand in N.A. and are probably not available to you in Australia.

Sandro Hit and Stedinger are two stallions standing in Germany that do not carry the chestnut gene. They are routinely frozen for export to other countries. I'm not sure if Australia is on that list, although I imagine that Sandro Hit probably is. He is very, very pricey, though. :eek:

[selah]

Most of the stallions suggested on this thread stand in N.A. and are probably not available to you in Australia.

True. I, for one, was only thinking about availability of frozen, and not whether they have been approved for export.
While it is true that Sandro Hit is pricey, it is said the quality is excellent...

[Yecart]

What's Colour is homozygous tobiano if you are after a splash of colour.
He stands in Australia.

[DownYonder]

While it is true that Sandro Hit is pricey, it is said the quality is excellent...

Yes, it is very reliable, as is frozen from most of his sons.

[nsm]

Titulus is homozygous.

[Mythology]

Both Balta'Czar and Aslan at Jump Start Farm are homozygous and cannot prouduce a chestnut. I know they export frozen, but I don't know if it's OK'ed for Austraila...:confused:

[Signature]

Abke too, I believe, and I think Riccione also.

[Home Again Farm]

Stedinger

[lalyho]

I do not know anything about exporting rules but Donarweiss is homzygous black.

[clint]

Hotline

[Schiffon]

Schiffon has no chestnut offspring.

We had requests to send Schiffon semen to Australia, but the country has very difficult quarantine requirements for frozen semen collection. The toughest one for us was that there must be 2 separate fences separating the horses in quarantine from all other horses. Our state vet, who would be the one inspecting the facility and determining if it met the Australian requirements was not keen on allowing even one of these fences to be electric since we could not guarantee that the power wouldn't go out. We decided it was crazy to put a double line of permanent fencing around our stallion barn and breeding shed just to be able to sell a few doses of semen to Australia.

The EU stations I saw in Germany wouldn't meet this requirement either, so I would not assume all German stallions would have been collected for Australia. Most of them had no fences separating the stallion facility from the rest of the yard.

Of course, so much depends upon the local governmental vet's interpretation of the Australian rules and whether he/she will sign the export permit, so who knows?

[paulamc]

We get all the stallions in australia from the big studs in germany, like PSI, Vorwerk, Bockmann, pretty much all of them and dutch horses too

We get everything that Judy Yancey has on her site.

Of the American horses we get Leatherdale farms horses and a few of the others, like Ruiz Soler and some of the holsteiners

But not the privately owned ones i dont think, but yes any of the german stallions we do get

I am obviously not breeding for colour, i dont believe in that of course, but i have so many chestnut mares and i do use quite a few sandro hit sons so sometimes i would love to find a suitable stallion that also doesnt throw chestnut

Very much appreciate all the help

Paulamc

[Robinovich]

Donarweiss ggf: Deniro/Hohenstein breeding, approved: AHS, ISR/OLNA, RPSI, CWB. Competing Successfull at Intermediare Dressage. Can also jump and makes nice hunters with hunter type mares, was trained to drive as a 2 year old.
See: www.hilltopfarminc.com for more stallion information,. He stands there in the guest stallion program. He is test by UCAL Davis for homozygous black.