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Sadiegem
Jun. 16, 2009, 12:36 PM
Hi all, please excuse my obvious slaughtering of the stallions name. I've only ever heard it pronounced and can't remember ever seeing it in print.

Does anyone have any info on a stallion (TB I think) named Mokhida?

Thanks!

Hilary
Jun. 16, 2009, 12:48 PM
Do you mean Mokheiba?

I believe he passed away a few years ago. He threw very athletic foals who could be quite a tricky ride.

Are you looking for his offspring or to breed to him? I believe John Williams' Hazmat was by him.

sassparella
Jun. 16, 2009, 01:27 PM
Glosgow Farm in MD stood Mokhieba and I believe, still has some frozen.... see their website: http://www.glasgowfarm.net/

Sadiegem
Jun. 16, 2009, 01:29 PM
THANKS!!

I'm looking at a filly on Sunday and have very little info on her except a few photos. I did chat with her owner for a minute and she mentioned this stallion when I told her I was looking for an event filly. I'll know more about the specifics on Sunday.

sassparella
Jun. 16, 2009, 01:38 PM
No problem...
My daughter has started several Mokhieba youngsters. I was visiting a few weeks ago and helped her back a couple of the 3 year olds. Lovely kids -- wouldn't mind a couple of them in my barn...

subk
Jun. 16, 2009, 04:33 PM
http://www.pedigreequery.com/mokhieba

Mokhieba is very desirable as a sporthorse/eventing sire. I beleive he was also very successful for steeplechasers as well.

TBCollector
Jun. 16, 2009, 06:44 PM
Christan Trainor has a gorgeous Mokhieba mare who is currently in foal to Theodore al Coda (Teddy's full bro).

Here's Gracie:

http://www.trainoreventing.com/Morchant.html

denny
Jun. 16, 2009, 07:15 PM
We stood Mokheiba for a season or so. A big, strong bay horse, powerfully made.

The problem that we ran into was his reputation for siring babies which, while talented, weren`t "amateur friendly".

And in the little horse world, a less than great reputation, whether true or not, can be tough to overcome.

charlieo
Jun. 16, 2009, 07:24 PM
I bred Morchant,(whose barn name was Chant) and still have her dam (now 22). The dam is also out of good sport horse lines and has had two warmblood cross foals since Chant. None of them jump as well as Chant, but both of them look sort of like her (they are a bit heavier in bone -- the mare always lightened the stallion up) . Chant was easy to deal with as a foal and young horse. She could be very sensitive -- I attributed that to her dam who was (and still is) a touch-me-not.

Hilary
Jun. 16, 2009, 08:22 PM
Denny, so was it true that they were not ammy friendly? or just a rumor? And what made them not ammy-friendly? Were they just hot? Buck, spook, jump you out of the tack?

When I bred my mare 10 years ago he made the first cut because he'd sired a lot of successful eventers but his reputation took him off the list. I'm an ammy and wanted to breed the best horse I could, but still be able to ride it.

(So I bred to Windstar. Who had no get on the ground and I learned my lesson there! )

Since the horses you are looking at are alive and started able to be tried out, go for it and I hope you find something you like.

denny
Jun. 16, 2009, 08:29 PM
I didn`t have him long enough to really form an opinion. We just didn`t get enough mares.

Denis Glaccum raved about him, and had lots of his foals, I believe.

Stallions` reputations are to some extent self fulfilling, I`ve come to realize. If the "buzz" is good, the good mares come, so the foals have a better chance, and so the snowball rolls.

Or not.

Sadiegem
Jun. 16, 2009, 09:31 PM
I knew this board would come through! Now that I have Mokhieda's info I found the dam online. It looks like the filly I'm going to see is out of Ivory Towers (dam sire is Mokhieda) by Maurico an AHHA stallion. It seems the breeder has done this cross several times so hopefully they have lots of information about previous siblings.

I'm getting excited now! Before it was just an "well, we'll be in the area so let's stop by" but having this info is really piquing my interest.

eventrider
Jun. 16, 2009, 09:39 PM
I purchased Morchant as a 3 year old with 60 days under saddle. Her name at the time was Chatter (not sure how it got from Chant to Chatter, but everyone thought it was Cheddar so I HAD to change it!). I turned her out at my farm for a few months and then restarted her. She has always been easy and sweet. She tries her heart out, can jump the moon, and was very good on the flat. She was not hot in anyway, either under saddle or on the ground. I don't know what she would have done with an amateur though, because no one but me rode her. Unfortunately, we recently discovered that she has a terrible injury due to a direct blow to her hock. Based on the x-rays, the injury happened when she was just going novice, and she was suppossed to be running intermediate this year! She always jumped around clean even with this injury, which says something about her heart!! She still flexes totally sound on the hock!! I have her bred to Theodore al Coda this year and will breed her to Jumbo next year (Headley Brittania's sire). If I could clone her I would do it in a heartbeat! I was also told that Mokheiba babies can be hot, but the people that told me this only had the geldings, so I have no idea. She was not and was mistaken for a WB cross based on her movement many times.

Christan

Carol Ames
Jun. 16, 2009, 09:48 PM
One of his offspring was on the team in Jerez, can't remember:confused: who

Black Points
Jun. 17, 2009, 12:43 AM
I have to chime in here as I have breed to Mokhieba 3 times. Got 1 colt and 2 fillies all by my mare Tilly Go Bragh (competed thru advanced with John Williams and by the Connemara stallion, Erin Go Bragh).

I heard the rumors of how hot Mokhieba babies could be too. But I talked with Dennis Glaccum as he already had several Mokhieba foals and he told me that they were OK to deal with and the bigger thing was that Mokhieba always improved on the mare's conformation. I definitely found this to be true.

My colt, now an 11 yr old gelding is owned and ridden by an 11 yr old pony clubber and he's doing great. The 8 yr old mare is being ridden by the pony clubbers Mom and the mare is very talented but not for a timid ammy. The other mare, now 5 yr is with a dressage rider's working student.

I will say that all 3 offspring were very naturally balanced and have comfortable gaits...much more so than Tilly and thankfully they got good, big feet from the stallion. All three are very smart and sensitive; i.e., very soft mouths and very forward to the leg. All were easy to start and the only one that bucks and can be difficult is the middle mare who is also the most talented one.

The one negative thing about Mokhieba is that he's carrying a chestnut gene and so is Tilly. So with only a 25% chance of getting a chestnut from breeding 2 bays, I got chestnut 3 times! I really wanted bays but now I'm more of a chestnut fan so I guess it wasn't too awful.

Mary

mcw
Jun. 17, 2009, 09:08 AM
I have a Mokhieba baby that is a 3 year old this year. I LOVE him and he is just my type- but that is a bit hot with personality plus. Mokhieba definitely improved on the mare's confirmation. His mother was my trainer's successful intermediate eventer, so I can't wait for him to be old enough to jump! We were warned that his colts could be difficult, so mine has been handled daily from the start. The biggest problem I have had with him is that he is extremely intelligent and has tons of confidence in himself. Those 2 traits to me are great in an event horse, but doesn't always make for an ammy-friendly ride. He was extremely easy to back and learns very quickly, but I have watched him buck enough on the lunge line and in the field to know that the day he decides to launch me, I'm gone. Would I buy another one for myself? Absolutely. Would I be nervous if my livelihood depended on selling him? Most definitely.

subk
Jun. 17, 2009, 11:15 PM
I have a Mokhieba baby that is a 3 year old this year.
We need to schedule a play date for Buddy and Tate!

Mach Two
Jun. 18, 2009, 03:16 AM
http://www.pedigreequery.com/mokhieba

Mokhieba is very desirable as a sporthorse/eventing sire. I beleive he was also very successful for steeplechasers as well.

I knew several good chasers by Mokhieba, as well as event horses, and my (now retired) Mach Two was by another Damascus son, Time for a Change. Chestnut all the way....I loved the look of the Mokheiba horse I took to the paddock for Alicia Murphey at a race meet, and they are super athletic...probably not Ammy rides.
If Denny stood him at stud, you know he was a class horse.