View Full Version : 1/2 Arabian, 3/4 Saddlebred!
RedTahoe
Jun. 10, 2009, 03:54 PM
Feel like having a laugh? I "hope" this is an out of school child that posted this online today:
Beautiful half Arabian, three fourths Saddlebred Bay 6 year old mare. Big winner at the U.S. Nationals as a 3 yr. old. Shown by Shawn Rooker---top 10! Many other wins. GREAT MIND!!!! Sweepstakes,NSH Registered. Selling due to back problems. Wonderful for an amateur or child.
1/2 Arabian + 3/4 Saddlebred = 1-1/4 horses :lol:
shakeytails
Jun. 10, 2009, 03:56 PM
Would that be what some would call "too much horse"?
RedTahoe
Jun. 10, 2009, 03:59 PM
Haha - you win the "ba-dum-bum" award for today :lol:
LisaW-B
Jun. 10, 2009, 04:12 PM
Actually, it makes sense even though it's poorly worded. The horse is probably registered as a half-Arabian horse. And it probably *is* 3/4 Saddlebred (and 1/4 Arab), *but* registered with the breed's half-Arabian registry. :lol I'm sure that's what it means.
RedTahoe
Jun. 10, 2009, 04:18 PM
If it's 1/4 Arabian, how is it registered as half-Arabian? In order for something to be registered as half-Arabian, it has to come from a papered Arabian on one side.
It says it's a registered NSH which I thought was (originally) an Arab/Saddlebred cross.
So confusing, but nonetheless, the ad's still funny :)
cowgirljenn
Jun. 10, 2009, 04:18 PM
Actually, it makes sense even though it's poorly worded. The horse is probably registered as a half-Arabian horse. And it probably *is* 3/4 Saddlebred (and 1/4 Arab), *but* registered with the breed's half-Arabian registry. :lol I'm sure that's what it means.
If the horse is 3/4 ASB and 1/4 Arab, he/she can't be registered as a half-Arab. Half-Arabs have to be at least half-Arabian. :)
SmartAlex
Jun. 10, 2009, 04:19 PM
My Lawd, Haven't you people learned yet? The Saddlebred is just so much more! ;)
mares tails
Jun. 10, 2009, 04:25 PM
Then what do you get when you breed a Quarter Horse to a Haflinger?
:lol:
rizzodm
Jun. 10, 2009, 04:25 PM
1/2 Arabian + 3/4 Saddlebred = A Quarter Horse:D
RedTahoe
Jun. 10, 2009, 04:30 PM
Then what do you get when you breed a Quarter Horse to a Haflinger?
:lol:
A $0.125 horse? (half of a quarter?)
(yeah.............lame........I got nothin' - lol)
LisaW-B
Jun. 10, 2009, 04:46 PM
LOL, alright, then the answer is obviously "that's a whole lotta horse"!!
Maybe they meant 1/2 Arabian, 2/4 Saddlebred. ;)
RedTahoe
Jun. 11, 2009, 09:34 AM
"He is very sweet and willing to do anything you ask. You can tie him out on a lunge line for days, and he does great."
IrishKharma
Jun. 11, 2009, 10:03 AM
Ditto what Lisa WB said.
It can be a 1/2 arab registered even if it is only 1/4 in blood.
Even if a horse is 3/4 arab it is still only eligible for registry as a half-arab.
I think they were advertising it as a half-arab but wanting to imply that it had more saddlebred blood and it is also reg. as a NSH.
Very confusing wording and it does sound very humorous!
HenryisBlaisin'
Jun. 11, 2009, 10:26 AM
If you have half Arabian and 3/4 Saddlebred...does that mean you have Quarter Horse left over?
:lol:
Showbizz
Jun. 11, 2009, 10:33 AM
Ditto what Lisa WB said.
It can be a 1/2 arab registered even if it is only 1/4 in blood.
Even if a horse is 3/4 arab it is still only eligible for registry as a half-arab.
I think they were advertising it as a half-arab but wanting to imply that it had more saddlebred blood and it is also reg. as a NSH.
Very confusing wording and it does sound very humorous!
Not so. It must be *at least* 50% Arabian in blood. It can be more, but not less. I'm thinking it's 3/4 Arabian and 1/4 ASB, and thus both Half-Arabian and NSH. Or 1/2 and 1/2. But a horse that is 1/4 Arabian is not eligible for the Half-Arabian registry.
greysandbays
Jun. 11, 2009, 12:03 PM
And not only must the "Half Arab" be at least 50% Arabian, there MUST be one purebred Arabian parent -- reg Half Arab x reg Half Arab does NOT get "Half Arab" papers.
Only exception is with the Anglo Arabs (TB crosses) where horse can be as little as 25% Arabian and doesn't have to have one purebred Arabian parent.
IrishKharma
Jun. 11, 2009, 12:49 PM
Oops, it does go the other way though right? As in if the horse is 3/4 arab it is still only a 1/2 arab- right?
gloriginger
Jun. 11, 2009, 01:44 PM
Oops, it does go the other way though right? As in if the horse is 3/4 arab it is still only a 1/2 arab- right?
yup- it can be 15/16 arab and it still would be registered as a 1/2 Arab.
RedTahoe
Jun. 11, 2009, 02:01 PM
Oops, it does go the other way though right? As in if the horse is 3/4 arab it is still only a 1/2 arab- right?
THAT reasoning would be correct :)
bort84
Jun. 11, 2009, 04:10 PM
Since it did say the horse had been shown at U.S. Nationals (most likely referring to the arab nationals, not the NSH Finals, so the horse would need to be at least 1/2 arab), perhaps she did mean it's 3/4 Arab 1/4 ASB? Who knows. The Rookers are pretty well known in the Arab world though, so I'd guess they didn't supervise this listing, haha (at least I hope not).
At first I was thinking maybe it was 3/4 ASB, 1/4 arab and shown as an NSH, but she did call her a half arab and mentioned the U.S. Nationals, so I'd guess 3/4 arab, 1/4 ASB.
RedTahoe
Jun. 11, 2009, 04:13 PM
It would have to be 3/4 Arabian and 1/4 Saddlebred:
Registered as a Half-Arabian:
1 purebred parent x 1 Arab/Saddlebred parent = 3/4 Arabian, 1/4 Saddlebred, BUT because 1 parent is a purebred Arabian......the AHA will register it as Half-Arabian.
I don't know how it's registered as a Half-Arabian and a National Show Horse though. Then again, I'm not familiar with NSH registry requirements - lol.
arabhorse2
Jun. 11, 2009, 04:20 PM
National Show Horses are a cross between Arabians and Saddlebreds, so a horse can be registered as a Half Arabian as long as it's 50% Arabian, and can also be registered as a National Show Horse.
A National Show Horse can have less than 50% Arabian blood, and still be registered as NSH. However, it can't be double registered as Half Arabian at that point, because of the 50% rule for Arabians.
Anglo Arabs are the only exceptions to this rule that I've seen, with 25% Arabian blood making them able to be registered as Anglo Arabians. They cannot, however, be registered as Half Arabs.
bort84
Jun. 11, 2009, 04:24 PM
A National Show Horse must be at least 25% arab blood but not 100%. So you can get a NSH by breeding:
1. a purebred arab to a purebred ASB
2. a registered NSH mare with less than 50% arab blood to a NSH or purebred arab stallion
3. a registered NSH mare with at least 50% arab blood to a NSH, arab, or ASB stallion
Pretty sure the stud must be nominated to the NSH Registry in all cases.
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