View Full Version : Victor-Victoria... the hen that crows...?
Sakura
May. 18, 2009, 10:24 AM
So a few weeks ago we picked up some Black Australorp chicks... pretty sure all three were female we gave them all girlie names...
Victoria the eldest by a few weeks has started to emit a garbled... crowing sound. She only does this in the morning, it is not very loud and it is also not a "real" cock-a-doodle-doo... more of a kawaaaak-oooo-duuuu-duuu. I Googled "crowing hen" and wouldn't you know it... supposedly some domanant hens do in fact crow... Anyone have personal experiance with this? Or is Victoria in all likelyhood a Victor? ;)
Everythingbutwings
May. 18, 2009, 10:57 AM
Gladys Kravitz AWK A DOODLE AWKS in the morning. I find her to be gender confused.
merrygoround
May. 18, 2009, 11:01 AM
All I know is I was told that "A whistling woman, and a crowing hen, will always come to no good end" :lol: :lol: :lol:
RIP Walt.
Alagirl
May. 18, 2009, 11:17 AM
Victor-Victoria...now with that name, you are surprised?! :lol:
Sakura
May. 18, 2009, 11:27 AM
Victor-Victoria...now with that name, you are surprised?! :lol:
That's not her name... Her name will change to Victor from Victoria if she in fact is a he :winkgrin:.
*JumpIt*
May. 18, 2009, 11:44 AM
What color is her comb? Is it more red in comparison to her companions? Are her feathers around her neck and on her rump pointy?
Hatcheries have 90% accuracy when it comes to sexing...
If you post a picture of him/her I could probably give a good guess on gender. :)
Alagirl
May. 18, 2009, 12:22 PM
That's not her name... Her name will change to Victor from Victoria if she in fact is a he :winkgrin:.
LOL, you missed the movie reference! :lol:
Sakura
May. 18, 2009, 01:53 PM
LOL, you missed the movie reference! :lol:
I know the movie title, and I know the premise of the film... but I have never watched it... so if it's something that could only be caught by those that have seen Victor Victoria then, yes it did go over my head :).
Sakura
May. 18, 2009, 01:54 PM
What color is her comb? Is it more red in comparison to her companions? Are her feathers around her neck and on her rump pointy?
Hatcheries have 90% accuracy when it comes to sexing...
If you post a picture of him/her I could probably give a good guess on gender. :)
I'll get photos of him/her soon and post them :)
Alagirl
May. 18, 2009, 02:04 PM
I know the movie title, and I know the premise of the film... but I have never watched it... so if it's something that could only be caught by those that have seen Victor Victoria then, yes it did go over my head :).
LOL, you missed out, but since you know the premisses for it... :lol:
but the movie is hilarious!
RacetrackReject
May. 18, 2009, 02:32 PM
I had a hen who, after hatching all of the eggs in the nest she was sitting on, when the door was opened up, flew out cockadoodled then proceeded to kick the butt of every rooster in the yard. She also grew spurs, but still laid eggs and raised chicks. She was an Aracana (sp) and had a "beard and sideburns" so maybe she was confused?
Sakura
May. 18, 2009, 02:38 PM
Here he/she is... and the more I look at the ever growing bright red comb... the more I think my dear Victoria is indeed a Victor... Hmmmmm...
Chicken 1 (http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/Copperleaf/Chicken.jpg)
Chicken 2 (http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/Copperleaf/Chicken2.jpg)
Tail feathers 1 (http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/Copperleaf/TailFeathers1.jpg)
Tail Feathers 2 (http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/Copperleaf/TailFeathers2.jpg)
Alagirl
May. 18, 2009, 03:45 PM
I had a hen who, after hatching all of the eggs in the nest she was sitting on, when the door was opened up, flew out cockadoodled then proceeded to kick the butt of every rooster in the yard. She also grew spurs, but still laid eggs and raised chicks. She was an Aracana (sp) and had a "beard and sideburns" so maybe she was confused?
A chick impersonating a guy impersonating a chick! :cool:
jubilee43
May. 18, 2009, 05:01 PM
Well, it IS possible you have a hermaphrodite chicken...if it has all the secondary male sex characteristics but has a vent (the egg laying orifice)then thats what you have. We raised 80,000 layers a year when I was growing up and we would run into one of those occasionally. We never kept them as they did not not lay and roosters weren't what we wanted anyway. It does happen tho....
JSwan
May. 18, 2009, 07:16 PM
There is a disorder in chickens - I can't remember the name but it's a hormonal thing. They start exhibiting male behavior. The name will come to me eventually... but here is an interesting bit of trivia.
Such a hen was burned at the stake as a witch.
Yup - you heard it here first!:lol:
pintopiaffe
May. 18, 2009, 07:46 PM
Wow. Just wow.
The things you learn on the farm forum.
Trixie
May. 19, 2009, 11:30 AM
http://pic60.picturetrail.com/VOL1740/11044173/21949743/362657265.jpg
http://pic60.picturetrail.com/VOL1740/11044173/21949743/362657254.jpg
Boy chicken or girl chicken?
JSwan
May. 19, 2009, 02:09 PM
I vote hen/pullet
I still don't know what she is, though. Did you figure it out?
chestnutmarebeware
May. 19, 2009, 02:18 PM
I am probably about to make a total ass of myself (or sound like I'm on drugs), but I keep thinking that I read somewhere (years ago) that chickens were one of those critters that could occasionally change their sex. I'd do a Google search, but I'm at work and don't want an electronic trail leading to "sex-change + chickens" in my personnel file! :lol:
But the pictures make me think boy—the pointy neck feathers.
Sakura
May. 19, 2009, 02:21 PM
I am probably about to make a total ass of myself (or sound like I'm on drugs), but I keep thinking that I read somewhere (years ago) that chickens were one of those critters that could occasionally change their sex. I'd do a Google search, but I'm at work and don't want an electronic trail leading to "sex-change + chickens" in my personnel file! :lol:
But the pictures make me think boy—the pointy neck feathers.
I thought that was frogs/amphibians...?
JSwan
May. 19, 2009, 02:34 PM
Wow. Just wow.
The things you learn on the farm forum.
Yup - true. That's where the phrase, "rooster egg" came from. I don't why someone decided to burn the poor thing at the stake - but evidently there was a trial and everything.
Hey - it was the Dark Ages; whaddya gonna do. Guess they ran out of little old ladies or something.
jherold
May. 19, 2009, 02:35 PM
My mama claimed to have a chicken for several years that crowed in the morning and laid an egg in the afternoon.
Trixie
May. 19, 2009, 03:14 PM
I still don't know what she is, though. Did you figure it out?
Nah, she was making happy little hen noises and then one day she got scared and started yelling "AWK a DOODLE BAWK!"
That's why ETBW thinks she's gender confused.
JSwan
May. 19, 2009, 08:41 PM
Trixie -
Mine make all sorts of weird noises. The Australorp goes around clucking and hollering after she lays an egg. I'm like yeah ok - I'm very impressed - have ya thought about not attracting predators by hollering like that? :lol:
jubilee43
May. 20, 2009, 06:40 AM
lol- in all our years of getting chicken journals, magazines,notices from the american egg board- NEVER did I hear that chickens could change sex after they were hatched...lmao..URBAN MYTH..think of all the money commercial poultry people could save if this was true and they did not have to cull for sex....
Everythingbutwings
May. 20, 2009, 07:05 AM
I know the movie title, and I know the premise of the film... but I have never watched it... so if it's something that could only be caught by those that have seen Victor Victoria then, yes it did go over my head :).
You missed a good movie.
Gladys Kravits continues to mock us. This morning, she was perched 15 feet up in a gum tree, terrifying the pony with her loud BOCK BOCK A DOODLE AWK!
Naturally, a terrified pony in one paddock stirs up the big goobers in the other paddock. It was brisk out, that helped fuel their antics. Big SNORT! Tails flagged and huge trots greeted me. :)
Sakura
May. 20, 2009, 07:44 AM
Yup - true. That's where the phrase, "rooster egg" came from. I don't why someone decided to burn the poor thing at the stake - but evidently there was a trial and everything.
Not big on burning at the stake... but roasting over a rotisserie... that's another story all together ;)
JSwan
May. 20, 2009, 11:24 AM
The animal does not change sex. No one has said that the animal changes sex.
If you were referring to my post, I still can't remember the name of the disorder but it is a HORMONAL problem in chickens that can MANIFEST as a hen exhibiting male characteristics.
The does not mean the hen turns into a dude. It means she acts like one. Big difference.
lol- in all our years of getting chicken journals, magazines,notices from the american egg board- NEVER did I hear that chickens could change sex after they were hatched...lmao..URBAN MYTH..think of all the money commercial poultry people could save if this was true and they did not have to cull for sex....
Everythingbutwings
May. 20, 2009, 11:58 AM
Here you go JSwan, Sex Change In Poultry (http://www.feathersite.com/Poultry/BRKChange.html)
You've got it right. :)
Everythingbutwings
May. 20, 2009, 12:02 PM
Another "Strutting Super Rooster is a real gender bender" (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/helena_the_chicken_lady/eveningPostChickenSexChange.jpg)
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