View Full Version : Are shoes needed for 3'6"????

florida foxhunter
May. 17, 2009, 07:32 PM
I have a fantastic horse, with great feet, who has showed at 3" in Ky, Atlanta, HIts, etc.......barefoot!! I am going to let a Junior rider ride him in EQ......starting in Ocala, but progressing to Atlanta, and the Northeast.............
Do you think he needs shoes "because he;s now jumping 3'6"????? His feet are dark, perfect, and he's always been sound foxhunting and showing in the South barefoot????
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May. 17, 2009, 07:56 PM
If he were showing on grass, it would be a definite yes. I firmly believe horses should be shod and caulked for anything over 2'6". But, I do realize that up in Canada, we show much more on grass than you do down there. More often than not in the summer time up here, our hunters are out on a grass field.

That being said, some horses do seem to need the stability of shoes...and even caulks when showing in a sand ring, especially when the jumps start getting up there or the footing is slightly questionable. You might want to discuss it with your farrier. If your horse has been fine without shoes, and doesn't have a problem with getting stone bruises, etc. and is confident with the footing at 3'6", then you should be fine. But, in my humble opinion, if you are planning on campaigning him lots throughout the year, simple things like the footing in the stabling area, asphalt or gravel roads up to the ring can start causing trauma to the feet. If he wasn't going to show a lot, I'd say fine. But if he were mine and I was going to do a lot of campaigning with him, I'd stick some shoes on him.

May. 17, 2009, 07:57 PM
I really think it depends on the horse. And also on the footing he will be showing on.
that's great if his feet will stay together doing that on a regular basis.
I think the showing at the higher level plus the spending more time in a stall, more bathing, cold hosing (poulticing etc) has an effect as well.

May. 17, 2009, 08:58 PM
Depends on the horse, but I would put shoes on him. My friend's horse is barefoot and he jumps around 3', but my horse who does the 3'6" has shoes on all four, plus studs for the show ring. Especially if you plan to show on grass, he should have shoes.

May. 17, 2009, 09:14 PM
talk to your farrier and get his opinion on your horses feet. Ive known a few 4ft jumpers that stay barefoot and compete consistently. Ive been lucky enough to have a fantastic farrier who I trust completely about my horse's feet. Id consult him before I put shoes on my horse if he didnt need them.

May. 18, 2009, 10:42 AM
Ask your farrier...and the BIG question will he/she remain the horse's footcare specialist? That right there might give you your answer. Also, there is a big difference between 3' local showing/hacking around a field and 3'6" showing all over the place and the management/horsecare differences right there might "do you in". Either way, congrats on a nice sound horse and good luck this show season!:yes::cool:

May. 18, 2009, 11:08 AM
I show two of my mares totally barefoot. I have a third one that I showed barefoot behind. All show up to 1.20M (4ft).

I don't do this with all of my horses, but the ones that have really good feet.

So yeah, if the horse has already been going barefoot, why not at 3'6".

May. 18, 2009, 11:53 AM
If I was showing a horse over many 3'6" courses at many different venues, I would want my horse properly shod. Understand that shoes protect the feet. The extra pounding and multiple footing conditions would be reason enough for me to want additional protection. Big EQ courses have some tight turns. I wouldn't want a slip to ruin the horse's confidence either.

May. 18, 2009, 12:07 PM
If the horse is already GOING and SHOWING at 3' barefoot, I wouldn't put shoes on him.
(The horse I did Medal classes on was barefoot)
Still, it depends on what you'd be showing in, if studs are needed, etc.

May. 18, 2009, 12:12 PM
My horse doesn't need them, but I know plenty of horses who do. I say just try to leave him barefoot and if you run into problems, shoe him. That seems easy enough

May. 18, 2009, 12:47 PM
If it ain't broke don't fix it.

May. 18, 2009, 01:25 PM
I keep my horse that does 3'6" jumpers barefoot (we are working on going higher). I will only shoe him if we are going to need studs due to footing like grass- this is a decision that I reached after several discussions with my farrier.

A shoe will probably actually concentrate the area in which the force of landing is concentrated, and impede the hoof from flexing. I am not one of those people that thinks all horses should be barefoot no matter what, but if it is working and if you don't foresee needing additional traction, then you may be able to leave the horse barefoot. Ultimately though, that is something you and your farrier woudl probably have to discuss as the Farrier will know the horses hooves and your situation better than anyone.

May. 18, 2009, 01:34 PM
You should only be considering three opinions before making your decision -

1. Farrier
2. Coach.
3. Vet

I say call all three, ask for their opinion, make your decision. This is an important decision to make I am sure all three above will be more than happy to weigh in to give you their professional opinion and will be happy to have such a conscientious client (will help build your relationships with them and sets up the discussion point as it evolves over the coming year as your goals progress).

May. 18, 2009, 02:46 PM
I agree with the above