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Flash44
May. 17, 2009, 04:59 PM
What would you have to pay for an attractive horse aged 8 - 11 who can win the over fences and maybe the hack too on any given day, has had a couple years of showing and winning, vets 100% clean, does not need special shoes, meds or supplements, has no vices and although not a packer, has no real issues, at the level of:

1. 3' hunters local/state/B/C circuit
2. 3' hunters A rated
3. 3'6 hunters local/state/B/C circuit
4. 3'6 hunters A rated
5. 4' hunters

What is your general location?

Hunter Mom
May. 17, 2009, 05:10 PM
1. 3' hunters local/state/B/C circuit - up to $15000
2. 3' hunters A rated $15-20K
3. 3'6 hunters local/state/B/C circuit
4. 3'6 hunters A rated
5. 4' hunters

What is your general location? True midwest - WEST of the Mississippi and east of the Rockies

As an adult rider who has a child, I would also want this to be a horse that DD could do childrens on in the future if she chooses. 100% safe is my #1 selling point. I have no real desire to do anything over 3' on a regular basis, but know that those horses when green around here go for at least $25000.

Moocow
May. 17, 2009, 05:12 PM
These are the numbers I think of, but I'm definitely no pro in the area (also not quite sure what this B and C level stuff in the US is exactly?):

#1 and #3 - 10-25k
#2 and #4 - 50-100k
#5 - 150k+

I think it really all depends on so many things even other than what you listed, it's hard to say. Not that we have many hunters right now, but I'm located in Holland.

juniormom
May. 17, 2009, 07:29 PM
There really aren't any "perfect" horses. Many come close (and we have had one), but most of the time they all have a few things wrong and you have to decide what you can live with and what you can't. :)

DMK
May. 17, 2009, 07:36 PM
2/4 depends on what type of A show. Winning at a smaller A/AA show is different than winning at WEF, Harrisburg, Devon and so on. But assuming the horse can win at the average A/AA show and legitimately belongs at those other shows even if being in the hunt for ch/res isn't a foregone conclusion, I'd say $65K - 350K with the lower end of the scale being the 3'0 horse (maybe topping out at $200K). Then again, a lot of it has to do with who is selling the horse... Some can be found for less and some for more. I'm thinking "less" is more the case these days.

#5 is not a lot different because so few people buy a horse strictly to do the regulars. Except for a few exceptional individuals, most those horses would still be evaluated on their ability in the jrs/aos, so 2/4 still applies.

RockinHorse
May. 17, 2009, 07:39 PM
A lot depends on the ridablity of the horse.

phoenix mom
May. 17, 2009, 07:43 PM
The perfect horse comes along about as often as the perfect rider.

huntjump29
May. 17, 2009, 07:46 PM
A lot depends on the ridablity of the horse.

That was my first thought when I read this. Generally hunters are being bought for clients, ammies and juniors. What good would the horse be for them if it was strictly a pro-ride horse. The "seeing eye" horse will be at the higher values of the ranges.

Flash44
May. 17, 2009, 08:33 PM
A lot depends on the ridablity of the horse.


Not a total packer, but no issues. Jumps 8 jumps, does the strides w/no problem, and does changes w/no problem. Your average rider will get around with no big problems, and your good rider will get a great round.

Midge
May. 17, 2009, 09:32 PM
What would you have to pay for an attractive horse aged 8 - 11 who can win the over fences and maybe the hack too on any given day, has had a couple years of showing and winning, vets 100% clean, does not need special shoes, meds or supplements, has no vices and although not a packer, has no real issues, at the level of:

1. 3' hunters local/state/B/C circuit
2. 3' hunters A rated
3. 3'6 hunters local/state/B/C circuit
4. 3'6 hunters A rated
5. 4' hunters

What is your general location?


Assuming you are shopping at the above venues and not shaking the backwoods bushes.
1. 20,000-35,000
2. 35,000-100,000
4.100,000-400,000

3 really doesn't exist for us.

superpony123
May. 17, 2009, 09:40 PM
1. 3' hunters local/state/B/C circuit - $20,000-$30,000
2. 3' hunters A rated - $30,000-$65,000
3. 3'6 hunters local/state/B/C circuit - $25,000-$40,000 (though it should be noted that there really is no such thing as a local jr hunter around here. when you see jr hunters at a B/C/schooling show around here, it's the same horses at the A's, theyre just warming up at a C show)
4. 3'6 hunters A rated - $65,000-$200,000
5. 4' hunters - $100,000 and up from there

What is your general location?

central NJ where everything is expensive

MIKES MCS
May. 18, 2009, 12:06 PM
What would you have to pay for an attractive horse aged 8 - 11 who can win the over fences and maybe the hack too on any given day, has had a couple years of showing and winning, vets 100% clean, does not need special shoes, meds or supplements, has no vices and although not a packer, has no real issues, at the level of:

1. 3' hunters local/state/B/C circuit
2. 3' hunters A rated
3. 3'6 hunters local/state/B/C circuit
4. 3'6 hunters A rated
5. 4' hunters

What is your general location?

It all depends on how much YOU are worth, then the trainers ability to sell you a horse for what ever price he thinks he/she can get out of you and then of course your location

If you live Show WEF it starts at $50,000.00 for a lead line pony
If you live in BFE , same pony as above $500.00
3ft Local Horse / WEF, no such thing but if there were, it would be $65,000
BFE same Horse $6,500

Get it , it's just a matter of dropping or adding a zero or 2

woodhillsmanhattan
May. 19, 2009, 12:16 AM
[QUOTE=Flash44;4100171]What would you have to pay for an attractive horse aged 8 - 11 who can win the over fences and maybe the hack too on any given day, has had a couple years of showing and winning, vets 100% clean, does not need special shoes, meds or supplements, has no vices and although not a packer, has no real issues, at the level of:

1. 3' hunters local/state/B/C circuit: $15,000-$25,000
2. 3' hunters A rated: $45,000-$55,000
3. 3'6 hunters local/state/B/C circuit: $35,000-$40,000 but I am not sure I have ever seen a 3'6 hunter division anywhere but an A show.
4. 3'6 hunters A rated: $80,000 and up
5. 4' hunters: $150,000 at the least

What is your general location?: Zone 3

You also have to consider where you are shopping. Some trainers have the ability to add the zeros and people still keep coming back. Then there are other circumstances where you find your next A Circuit hunter with a big old hay belly out in the field somewhere.

katerenee
May. 19, 2009, 02:50 AM
It all depends on how much YOU are worth, then the trainers ability to sell you a horse for what ever price he thinks he/she can get out of you and then of course your location

If you live Show WEF it starts at $50,000.00 for a lead line pony
If you live in BFE , same pony as above $500.00
3ft Local Horse / WEF, no such thing but if there were, it would be $65,000
BFE same Horse $6,500

Get it , it's just a matter of dropping or adding a zero or 2

I agree. Quite true and well said :eek:

BSFKimbees
May. 19, 2009, 03:39 AM
It all depends on how much YOU are worth, then the trainers ability to sell you a horse for what ever price he thinks he/she can get out of you and then of course your location

If you live Show WEF it starts at $50,000.00 for a lead line pony
If you live in BFE , same pony as above $500.00
3ft Local Horse / WEF, no such thing but if there were, it would be $65,000
BFE same Horse $6,500

Get it , it's just a matter of dropping or adding a zero or 2


Is this a trick question? I could NOT agree more. I have found many horses "backwoods" that have gone on to these levels, working with one now... But, and it's a BIG BUTT :yes:, you have to have an eye, a good Vet (for the PPE), and good training to make these dreams come true...

Though with my current prospect we are NOT quite to that level, YET!

BSFKimbees
May. 19, 2009, 03:55 AM
On a more serious note, though I do not have experience with selling MADE horses at these levels, I am now going to quote you may my previous sales, between 3-4 yr old (Hano/OLD) horses, as "prospects" for your requested levels (in the past three years):

1. 3' hunters local/state/B/C circuit - $25K
2. 3' hunters A rated - $30-$35K
3. 3'6 hunters local/state/B/C circuit (we don't really market for this)
4. 3'6 hunters A rated - $32,500-$40K
5. 4' hunters - Haven't had one yet

What is your general location? Virginia

monalisa
May. 19, 2009, 08:11 AM
I can only comment on the 3' hunter at the A level, since that is what I do. I don't think you can touch what you want for under $50K, if that. What you are looking for is almost impossible to find, not impossible but almost, in any economy. If you have a horse like that, why in the world would you ever want to sell it? I have one that almost fits the bill and I will never ever part with her for any amount of money. They are just too hard to find.