OMG! OMG! MUZZLE USERS, come quick! New muzzle!!!

[sublimequine]

:comes running in flailing arms wildly: Guys! Guys!!!!!!!! I have news!! :lol:

Look at this!

http://www.chicksaddlery.com/page/CDS/PROD/0003/MZ9661

A muzzle that doesn't make our horses sound like Darth Vader! :D It's got cut outs for the nostrils, so the horse can breathe better! FINALLY! I've been wanting a muzzle like this since FOREVER. Ironically now that they finally invent one, my mare doesn't need a muzzle. I might order one just to have on hand! :yes:

I just thought it was an awesome design, and with the heat of summer coming, I always feel badly for muzzled horses in the hot temps. This muzzle would be an AWESOME solution! :)

[LMH]

That certainly looks cooler BUT I would worry about the amount of grass? Do you think they can work it around and be able to get lots more grass?

Darth Vader sound-that is funny.:lol:

[sublimequine]

That certainly looks cooler BUT I would worry about the amount of grass? Do you think they can work it around and be able to get lots more grass?

Darth Vader sound-that is funny.:lol:

I was curious about that too. Luckily my mare isn't super-clever, so I don't think it'd be a problem for her. ;)

I just wish more companies would start redesigning their muzzles. So many people use them now, there's a huge market for them, and yet their design has changed VERY LITTLE since they first came out.

They just seem so primitive, these big rubber/nylon web buckets! At least one with nostril openings is a step in the right direction! :yes:

[LMH]

Oh I agree!

[Over the Hill]

Looks a lot lighter in weight, too. Now if they just added a browband to it to help keep it straighter and to keep them from getting out of it so easily. Hmmmmmm. . .

[sublimequine]

Looks a lot lighter in weight, too. Now if they just added a browband to it to help keep it straighter and to keep them from getting out of it so easily. Hmmmmmm. . .

COTH should just design and market our own muzzle. :lol:

[JB]

Nice!!!

I highly doubt though that it comes big enough for the 2 here who are living in them at the moment :(

[sublimequine]

Nice!!!

I highly doubt though that it comes big enough for the 2 here who are living in them at the moment :(

It only comes in one size, unfortunately. But I know it is super-adjustable, but if the horse's shnoz doesn't fit in the bucket part, then you're outta luck. :(

[JB]

Yeah, it's the schnoz part. Unless this one is wider than most "one size fits all" models...

Quick, someone with a normal-sized horse buy one, and tell me how the muzzle part compares to a large Weaver or large Best Friends :D

[sublimequine]

Yeah, it's the schnoz part. Unless this one is wider than most "one size fits all" models...

Quick, someone with a normal-sized horse buy one, and tell me how the muzzle part compares to a large Weaver or large Best Friends :D

My mare wears the large Weaver, and I know she'd fit into the standard Tough-1 (other people at my barn have it and I've compared them). I'm assuming the new Tough-1 I linked to would also fit her, I can't imagine they'd change the size of the muzzle.

[BornToRide]

Loosk nice - what about safety though - does it have a break-away feature? Will the velcro let go if the horse gets caught on something?

[Pookah]

Thank you so much!!! Will definitely be trying one. I have a horse with a lovely combination of severe IR and a propensity for anhydrosis, so he lives in a muzzle but we also worry about him overheating. I've already bought a wire basket muzzle to try this summer (with small holes, not the anti-biting type). And a much better price than the Best Friends (I think that's what it's called, drawing a blank). And for those worried about safety, I discovered a wonderful little item at Triangle Horse Sports that I'm adding to all of my horses' grazing muzzles--it's a little leather tab that can be added to pretty much anything to make it a breakaway. Works great on a grazing muzzle strap, and I worry much less.

[pinkme]

I have used this muzzle on a medium pony with a large head and a chunk horse. One needed something to keep him from chewing/cribing on the fence, one needed one to prevent eating too much grass. It worked great and was sturdy. The velcro makes it safe too!

[Texarkana]

Well, the muzzle destroyer extraordinaire (aka my mare) just managed to kill her "indestructible" cribbing/grazing muzzle. Looks like I'm muzzle shopping once again. This muzzle is priced right for me to give it a whirl, even though I don't have high hopes for its shelf life on my girl. I have a hunch she'll kill the plastic in about a week. But I'll report back on how it fits an average-sized warmblood head and whether or not a super creative mare can figure out how to eat out of those big nostril holes. :lol:

[sublimequine]

Loosk nice - what about safety though - does it have a break-away feature? Will the velcro let go if the horse gets caught on something?

The pollstrap has a velcro safety breakaway feature to it, if you look close. They always forget to mention that in the description.. I don't know why, as they'd sell a TON more of them if they mentioned they ARE breakaway! :no:

I saw a horse pull off this muzzle once, only it was the standard Tough-1, not the new one. It doesn't come off easy (ie, for a houdini horse), but she set back against it one good and hard time, and it pulled off safely. BUT, I think the velcro needs to REALLY be kept clean, to be on the safe side.

[katarine]

That's a nice idea but I can't say I'm impressed with the Tough 1 materials. the dinky plastic 'adjuster' buckles are just that, dinky, and the placement of the ring for the poll piece, too low, like under their eye. From that perspective they appear to have been designed by blind monkeys in Papua New Guinea who have never even seen a horse.

Signed, owner of a destroyed Tough 1, and two Best Friends muzzles, and some other no name one, too.

[sublimequine]

That's a nice idea but I can't say I'm impressed with the Tough 1 materials. the dinky plastic 'adjuster' buckles are just that, dinky, and the placement of the ring for the poll piece, too low, like under their eye. From that perspective they appear to have been designed by blind monkeys in Papua New Guinea who have never even seen a horse.

Signed, owner of a destroyed Tough 1, and two Best Friends muzzles, and some other no name one, too.

I've dealt with Tough 1 muzzles before myself, and never had an issue. Maybe you just had a dud? Who knows.

[trubandloki]

Thanks for the heads up. I am going to have to get one. It sure looks like it will be lots more comfy for the poor horse.

[sublimequine]

Thanks for the heads up. I am going to have to get one. It sure looks like it will be lots more comfy for the poor horse.

You'll have to report in and let us know how you like it! :)

[LarissaL]

Oh man, couldn't you have posted this like five days from now?? :lol: I just ordered two and there's going to be a mad run on them!

I'm muzzling two of mine for the first time and the easy breathe feature makes me feel SO much less guilty. I'll be sure to provide a review whenever these things arrive!

[katarine]

I've dealt with Tough 1 muzzles before myself, and never had an issue. Maybe you just had a dud? Who knows.

Nope, I have a Tough 1 blanket with dinky buckles, and the dinky plastic slider under the jaws under the muzzle- connecting the muzzle to the throatlatch- was broken within a week or so of arrival. I have a donkey that devotes his days to destroying muzzles- his BF lasted 2 years...the tough 1, notsomuch. By your admission your mare doesn't fight it, good for you. Some of us aren't so lucky :)

YMMV.

[rmh]

I like the sleeker design. The feeding hole looks too big. Mine don't seem to have any trouble breathing in the BFs. They are a bit heavy but lighter than some bridle combos I have seen.

[LisaB]

Aaaaggghhh! You tease me so! It looks like it doesn't come in huge Louie size!

[SunshineRose]

Nice... I just ordered two!

I will give you guys my review when I receive them and try them on my two air fern kids. I like this idea. I do have Best Friends and they work fine.. but I do really like the idea of easy breathe feature.

[JB]

Well, for the price and the design, I ordered one, and will HOPE that it really is as big as a Weaver large ;) Shipping put it right about the cost of a locally purchased Weaver, so that negated some of the "real" cost :(

I'll be sure to report back on the quality and fit :yes:

[sublimequine]

Well, for the price and the design, I ordered one, and will HOPE that it really is as big as a Weaver large ;) Shipping put it right about the cost of a locally purchased Weaver, so that negated some of the "real" cost :(

I'll be sure to report back on the quality and fit :yes:

I hope it fits, I'll feel badly if it doesn't. :lol:

katarine; If you have a horse who specifically intends to destroy the muzzle, that's entirely different. My mare doesn't, and I hate that the Best Friends ones weigh a ton and are so bulky.

[JoZ]

My muzzle candidates are draft crosses. They were PMU foals. I bet there are enough fatty drafty ex-PMU foals in this country to merit a size for big schnozzes!

[deltawave]

The grass-hole looks WAY too big.

[JB]

I hope it fits, I'll feel badly if it doesn't. :lol:
I know where you live if it doesn't! Here! ;) :D

I hate that the Best Friends ones weigh a ton and are so bulky.I really, really avoid the BF whenever possible. They ARE heavy, and when I need to use a muzzle, it's for at least 12 hours a day. I cannot for one second believe that all that weight hanging off their poll, for that many hours a day, day after day, week after week, has anything but detrimental effects.

The grass-hole looks WAY too big.
It does, but I think it will be relatively easy to narrow if necessary. It's probably a bigger issue if you are dealing with a more sugar-sensitive horse. My one horse ( boarder's) is IR, I *strongly* suspect, but mildly, so he doesn't need a pea-sized hole, just needs to be really, really reduced. My WB needs to be slowed down - no IR, he just gets fat.

My muzzle candidates are draft crosses. They were PMU foals. I bet there are enough fatty drafty ex-PMU foals in this country to merit a size for big schnozzes!
Yep, there really, really needs to be a bigger source for draft-size muzzles.

[sublimequine]

I know where you live if it doesn't! Here! ;) :D

I really, really avoid the BF whenever possible. They ARE heavy, and when I need to use a muzzle, it's for at least 12 hours a day. I cannot for one second believe that all that weight hanging off their poll, for that many hours a day, day after day, week after week, has anything but detrimental effects.


It does, but I think it will be relatively easy to narrow if necessary. It's probably a bigger issue if you are dealing with a more sugar-sensitive horse. My one horse ( boarder's) is IR, I *strongly* suspect, but mildly, so he doesn't need a pea-sized hole, just needs to be really, really reduced. My WB needs to be slowed down - no IR, he just gets fat.


Yep, there really, really needs to be a bigger source for draft-size muzzles.

Ahhhh! :runs and hides: :lol:

And yeah, the boarding barn I just left for the summer has set in a new policy that all boarders must have grazing muzzles for their horses (LONGGGGG story.. :uhoh: ), and said that everyone should buy the BF muzzles. Unless durability was the ABSOLUTE priority, I don't get it. They seriously must weigh TWICE what my Weaver muzzle does.

[JB]

Ahhhh! :runs and hides: :lol:
You can run but you cannot hide! :eek::cool:

They seriously must weigh TWICE what my Weaver muzzle does.
And THAT's why they cost almost twice what the Weaver costs :lol:

they are seriously heavy.

[sublimequine]

You can run but you cannot hide! :eek::cool:


And THAT's why they cost almost twice what the Weaver costs :lol:

they are seriously heavy.

Maybe they sell muzzles by the pound?! :lol::lol::lol:

[LarkspurCO]

The hole looks kinda big, but maybe it's just big enough to prevent the horses from getting completely frustrated, tearing the muzzle off and eating muzzle-free the rest of the day.

I ordered two, to add to my collection.

[ASB Stars]

THat is WAY cool- thanks so much for posting this!:yes:

[LarissaL]

Just got mine in the mail today! Shipping weight for 2 was 3 lbs.. so these (including the halter and heavy throatlatch buckle) weigh 1-1.5 lbs each. The hole is roughly 1.5"x3" with the longer side being vertical. Seems sturdy.. heavy nylon all around, the crownpiece has double velcro, metal connectors at the crown/cheek/throat intersections and a metal throatlatch clip. I imagine these are relatively safe.. hard to describe but the crownpiece ends with the velcro "loops" on both sides of the nylon and there are two flaps of "hooks" that grab it on either side. Essentially if the horse pulls back hard enough the crownpiece "loops" just pull up and out of the "hooks." Oh, and the bottom half of the muzzle is the traditional three strands of nylon so no easier than other muzzles to get access to more grass.

Was that a long enough paragraph to do justice to a grazing muzzle? Ha. Tomorrow it goes on the troublemakers and we'll see how long it holds!

[Fence2Fence]

I just ordered one. Normally my chubby boy will keep his grazing muzzle on, but this year he's shucked it as quick as he could (after fighting me about putting it on :no: ). Maybe this one will be more comfortable.

[jazzrider]

Well, for the price and the design, I ordered one, and will HOPE that it really is as big as a Weaver large ;) Shipping put it right about the cost of a locally purchased Weaver, so that negated some of the "real" cost :(

I'll be sure to report back on the quality and fit :yes:

Please do. I've got a big guy who wears a muzzle too, and I'd love to try this one. We pay about $85 for muzzles that fit him. Love the price on this one, but afraid of the fitting and hole size.

[Auventera Two]

I bought a Tough 1 blanket that lasted precisely one day. (And my horses aren't even rough on blankets. I have other cheap stuff that has lasted for years.) I've never been impressed with anything they make. Their stuff is generally cheap junk. I use the Weaver muzzles. They are great - cheaper and lighter than Best Friends, but last forever. The Weavers I have are several years old. A lot of people buy a new muzzle every season.

[PolestarFarm]

We have been using these muzzles for about a year on at least 8 horses and I can give them good marks. The breakaway works well, but not too well. We had to replace one plastic buckle after it broke, but that was bought at REI for a few bucks.

If the grass is really dewey then it can get a little wet inside the nose compartment! One horse got some sores from that, his black nose had little worn areas. We used desitin daily on the spots and they healed fine and didnt get worse.
The real porkers stay pretty trim and everyone seems like they are grazing just enough to keep themselves entertained.

[Jumpin_Horses]

We have been using these muzzles for about a year on at least 8 horses and I can give them good marks. The breakaway works well, but not too well. We had to replace one plastic buckle after it broke, but that was bought at REI for a few bucks.

If the grass is really dewey then it can get a little wet inside the nose compartment! One horse got some sores from that, his black nose had little worn areas. We used desitin daily on the spots and they healed fine and didnt get worse.
The real porkers stay pretty trim and everyone seems like they are grazing just enough to keep themselves entertained.

I went to your website, your horses look AWESOME. I wish there was a good training facility around here. sigh....

BTW - I just ordered this muzzle and they said they have 17 left

[JB]

I use the Weaver muzzles. They are great - cheaper and lighter than Best Friends, but last forever. The Weavers I have are several years old. A lot of people buy a new muzzle every season.

Yep, "last forever" is very particular to your situation :) something about how Rio eats out of his (Weaver) tears through the bottom rubber piece within a few months, so he needs a new one every year :(

[Texarkana]

"Last forever" is completely relative. My girl's Weaver muzzle lasted a week. Which is about 4 days longer than her Best Friends muzzle survived. :lol:

She's become less determined these days, but I still don't have high expectations for the longevity of this new muzzle coming. I'm just hoping maybe the lighter design will be more comfortable and encourage less muzzle destruction.

You'd think I would just give up by now, but I don't have a dry-lot or stall option for her.

[Texarkana]

Mine arrived today! I'm sure my mare won't be nearly as excited as I am when she sees me in the morning.

It looks to be of better quality than I expected for the price. The rubber bottom is reinforced with double stitching, so hopefully my girl won't pluck the basket apart in a matter of days.

The rectangular opening in the bottom is longer than the hole on my other muzzles, but it isn't any wider.

It does seem a wee bit on the small side... I'll report back with how it fits tomorrow.

Anyone else?

[*JumpIt*]

I hope you get pictures! :winkgrin:

[Christa P]

Am I the only person that gets annoyed that they ALL have the snap backwards. The smooth side should be OUT so if they rub on anything it won't get caught.

BTW, we have 3 - a burro and 2 ponies - in Tough-1 muzzles. No real problems except that they needed an extra strap across the nose - the critters were getting the muzzles off their noses so they were just hanging under thier necks. :mad:. We had an extra strap sewn on with 1 or 2 tabs connecting it to the original top strap and that solved the problem. Another advantage of this is that we had the extra straps made in different colors so we can tell them apart :yes: - all 3 wear the same size with slightly different adjustments.

BTW - that would be another improvement - different colors for the headstall parts.

Christa

[spookhorse]

Anyone use one of these on a super thinned skinned horse that everything rubs? My Paso Fino Sugar is a porker now (she was starved before I got her last year) but she always manages to get sore spots within days of wearing a muzzle for a 12 hour on/off period. It doesn't help that she also seems to be "special" when learning how to eat through on and ends up bulldozing a pound or so of dirt up into her muzzle every day!

She really needs something that she can eat a bit through and that won't rub her so I am eager to see if anyone's got any experiences with this muzzle relating to that...

[Hony]

A paddock with very little grass and someone to throw them a few flakes a day.
I hate muzzles but my horse is like a fat kid on a smarty. The thing that works best for her is a paddock that has already been eaten down by the others or a dirt paddock. Easy for me and it makes the other boarders happy because they can have the grass paddocks.

[JB]

Mine arrived yesterday :)

The buckles/snaps are metal, not plastic.

It's nice and light! :yes:

I am concerned the nose will be too small for the schnoz's, but maybe I'll be nicely surprised :) I'm also a little leary that the muzzle part isn't as deep as the Weaver/BF, which may be a problem in flipping it off the nose. But, we'll see!

[spookhorse]

Okay, I broke down and bought one for Sugar because she *really* needs a carb intervention :lol:

Hopefully this one will fit her without rubbing and will be open enough that she can learn to pick out of it. The regular muzzle just stymies her (so much for Paso Finos being intelligent LOL).

And actually, the hook turned out is a good thing for Sugar because a hook turned inward rubs her raw... she's seriously got thinner skin than any TB I've known!

[LarissaL]

I am concerned the nose will be too small for the schnoz's, but maybe I'll be nicely surprised :) I'm also a little leary that the muzzle part isn't as deep as the Weaver/BF, which may be a problem in flipping it off the nose. But, we'll see!

I daresay that the muzzle IS smaller than a typical "horse" size. I have a 15.1h that we guess is a NSH, small muzzle, and this fits him nicely. I wish the muzzle were deeper.. the cutouts are actually sort of below his nostrils and he doesn't seem to have a problem pulling it down and off his nose. For the time being, I've tied it to the nose of a halter but that sort of kills the lightness of the muzzle..

I might have to try someone else's idea about adding a noseband to the muzzle itself!

[Christa P]

he doesn't seem to have a problem pulling it down and off his nose. For the time being, I've tied it to the nose of a halter but that sort of kills the lightness of the muzzle..

I might have to try someone else's idea about adding a noseband to the muzzle itself!

I thiink you were talking about me.

I just had an extra nylon strap sewn in across the nose a little higher than
the top strap with 1 or 2 tabs connecting the original top strap and new piece. Basicly make just the front higher so they can't get it over thier noses.

Christa

[JB]

Sadly, the muzzle is way too narrow around to fit Rio :( I couldn't even squish it past his nostrils :(

Bummer. If someone wants mine, let me know, I would sell it for cost and my shipping, which is less than Chick's shipping. I hope this isn't advertising, I'd lose a bit of $$ on it :(

It does come with a nice little "carry case" like the BF does :)

Does anyone know who really makes these? I'd like to send them an e-mail that they really, really need to make one that is bigger. Muzzles are not just for ponies ;)

[Texarkana]

Anyone interested in purchasing one of these muzzles should take note that they definitely run small. I would say it's closer to cob size than horse size. It just *barely* fits my WB/arab mare... if she hadn't inherited a narrow schnoz from her momma I'd be out of luck. Other horse-sized muzzles fit her with room to spare.

She does seem to appreciate the nostril openings-- they hit her just at the right spot. I am worried she'll figure out how to flip the muzzle off her nose since it's so shallow and she's so clever, but so far so good.

[JB]

Another note - even if the muzzle part was big enough for Rio's nose, it misses by a good 6" in being able to fasten lengthwise :lol:

It's definitely on the cob size of things, not horse, let alone large horse :(

[Texarkana]

Another note - even if the muzzle part was big enough for Rio's nose, it misses by a good 6" in being able to fasten lengthwise :lol:


I believe it... I have the halter part adjusted as big as it will go for my mare.

[LarkspurCO]

Yep, just got mine tonight and it's certainly a tight fit, but usable. My older mare will probably find a way to rid herself of it, and I'll have to modify it. I may end up cutting off the basket part and gorilla-taping the basket to a leather halter.

My younger mare has a terrible time with any muzzle. She sneezes continuously while wearing them. She doesn't even try to take it off, and dives into it willingly (for an alfalfa cube). But then she walks around sneezing and scratching her nose on things. It must be tickling her somehow. The poor thing fills it up with snot and and by the end of the day her face is a mess.

But I now have an idea -- what about cutting nostril holes in the Best Friends muzzle? I wonder if that would work. I have a few of these around and might experiment.

Next idea: wire the jaws shut!

[Fence2Fence]

Got to say I really like it. It's light but durable. I think the stitching is good, and the velcro is good quality too.

I was a little skeptical when I pulled it out of the box because the bucket is shorter lengthwise than other muzzles I've used. When I put it on him, I was still unsure because I'm used to the buckets engulfing his head. I thought for sure he'd rub it off. But nope, it's being staying on! I think because the bucket is shorter lengthwise, it's not rubbing like other muzzles I've used, which would rub both the bridge of his nose and under his jaw. This one sort of just sits on the end of his nose.

It doesn't look like he can get grass through the nose holes either--and with a little longer/rectangular grass opening, it's slowing him down without frustrating him.

The nostril holes line up really well, and I have to say, I'm glad I bought it--and think it's quite the deal for the price.

[LarkspurCO]

Shelby wore hers yesterday. It stayed on while she was grazing, but then the horses took off for a buck-and-run gallop, and the muzzle came off and was hanging around her neck. She is grazing in it now but I am keeping an eye on her.

I will definitely need to modify it to prevent it slipping off again.

[spookhorse]

I just want to post an update on how Sugar is dealing with her new muzzle.

I ended up pulling her off grass for awhile as she developed some heat in her feet. Not badly, but enough that she needs a "detox" since her weight was also ballooning up. She is going out in the barn area every day while I am there for an hour or so and wearing her new muzzle. Her belly is kept pretty full with soaked hay and beetpulp, so she spends more time pestering me and the other horses than she does eating grass.

When I first put it on her, she had it down off her nose in short order, but I fiddled with the strap length and she has not lost it again, despite her best efforts! She wass rather a dummy about her old muzzle, but with the slightly larger hole, she seems to be able to pick some grass now, hence I think she is trying less hard to get it off. She is also not bulldozing a bunch of dirt up in there like she did with her old muzzle, I would have to clean it out every day. I think it may also be more comfortable with the nose holes, so maybe that has to do with less attempts as losing it, too. Either way, so far it is success. We'll know more when I put her back out in the field for night time turnout, but by then she will (hopefully) be schooled in leaving it alone and be ready to come in when called.

[Mallard]

Another update on the new style muzzle...
Yes...they fit small. My gal is a cob and the horse-size fits her. No way it would ever fit on any of my 'real horses'.

She also got it off very quickly. Not sure if she did it or one her friends. It came right off over her head...I found it still done up.
She has been wearing a 'regular' Tough-1 muzzle all spring and has not gotten it off yet.

So -I will have to alter this new one by sewing another piece of webbing higher up, across the nose, and perhaps add another throatlatch strap.

It is lighter in weight and I do think the nose holes are awesome...I don't think they have anything to do with her getting it off....the basket is just a bit too short.
Certainly the price was right and my local tack shop ordered it in.

[mjmvet]

Yup - my mare got hers off twice yesterday, where I never saw her trying to get the BF off. I'm going to modify it with a noseband. I agree the basket is snugger around her muzzle than the BF, but I like the fact that it's lighter, and I feel better about having the nose holes if the weather really gets hot.

She is getting rubs under her mandibles and the point of her chin from the BF muzzle. Anyone have any ideas about chafing and prevention?

[AnotherRound]

:comes running in flailing arms wildly: Guys! Guys!!!!!!!! I have news!! :lol:


A muzzle that doesn't make our horses sound like Darth Vader!

No, instead he looks like Hannible the Cannible. :lol:

[LarkspurCO]

The Easy Breathe isn't working out so well. Now that I've reinforced the basket to prevent it popping off, it's making nasty rubs on my mare's chin.:( The basket is just too small for her muzzle. Too bad -- a nice design idea but just not quite right.

[Texarkana]

Knock on wood, mine is working out great. My mare hasn't killed it nor has she gotten it off. That's a huge plus in my book.

The worst I can say is that the strip of nylon right above the nostril holes is rubbing her a little. I might wrap it in moleskin or flannel.

She goes out and grazes with the herd instead of standing in the trees with her fellow muzzlees. I worry she might be getting too much grass, but her weight hasn't changed as of yet. I've watched her graze with the muzzle and she still really has to work for it.

Guess I'm lucky. :)

[ThisTooShallPass]

No phone orders taken on weekend at Chick's. Darn. I want one NOW!

[LarissaL]

I'm ending up not needing one for my guy. If anyone in MD/DC/VA wants one, I have a brand new one (bought as a spare). You can pick it up or I'll drop it in the mail for its $25 cost.

[JB]

I'm ending up not needing one for my guy. If anyone in MD/DC/VA wants one, I have a brand new one (bought as a spare). You can pick it up or I'll drop it in the mail for its $25 cost.

Me too - in NC.

[ThisTooShallPass]

Not even on 24 hours. 12 acres to search for it in. *ha!* :no: Even put browband on it after reading issues on here. What a waste of monies! I do NOT recommend this poorly designed item. :mad: :mad: :mad:

[katarine]

I swear I think It's a roll of the dice. I opted to try one for Chico the donkey and while it's technically too big on him, he doesn't resent the dickens out of it, and deigned to keep it on the entire last week. It's rubbing a titch on his nose so it's off so I can rest that spot and get some fleece or moleskin...but it's much better quality than I ever expected out of Tough 1, and he's a slim ass now as a result :)

[spookhorse]

Mine seems to be working just fine on Sugar, she is not getting it off overnight and I haven't done anything to it extra... just no telling, I guess!

[PamUK]

Would anyone like to sell me their unwanted (new) muzzle? I'm in the UK and the store wanted to charge me $35 to ship one to me! I'm sure it wouldn't cost anything like that to actually ship it. I could pay by PayPal.

Pam

[Mallard]

If you don't get any better offers....
I'm in Ontario, Canada and my local tack shop did have a few in stock.
I'd be happy pop in there tomorrow and see if they have any left.
I can take mine to the post office in the morning and find out how much to ship.

[Steif]

Could someone post the circumference/diameter of the bucket around the nose? Just want to compare to BF. Thanks!

[equineartworks]

I forgot about this thread...I bought this for Dumplin'...love it! The rubber is soft and it stays put. I don't use it much, only when he is going to be out longer than usual, but so far he doesn't seem to mind it and it is easy to clean.

[ThisTooShallPass]

My aged fat horse has never taken a halter off in his life. Even put a brow band on this muzzle after reading comments in this thread. POOF this thing was missing fast. Money out the window.

[Mallard]

Could someone post the circumference/diameter of the bucket around the nose? Just want to compare to BF. Thanks!

25" diameter/8" across and only 5" deep.
The basket is quite small compared to my other 'regular' Tough-1 muzzle. She has to really really work to get that one off. It's very much like the BF.

My girl is a largish Cob and she has the horse size. No way it would fit my 16.2 Appendix....straps would all be way too short.
It also rubbed her a bit until I put vet wrap/fleece on it.
I also need to put a snug halter on over top.
However, the large nose holes are great and in the perfect spot.

Has anyone actually tried cutting some of the webbing out of a 'regular' muzzle to see if that gives them more breathe-abilty without wrecking the muzzle??

[marta]

Has anyone actually tried cutting some of the webbing out of a 'regular' muzzle to see if that gives them more breathe-abilty without wrecking the muzzle??

i was wondering as well.
we're not using our old muzzle (not using any muzzle as she's in a dry lot these days) so i may try this.

gf has a warmblood mare who wears the best friend's muzzle but has a hard time breathing and when the weather gets hot and humid she really breaths hard while wearing the muzzle.

[Songsmom]

For those of you having problems with wearer managing to get thing off: My pony mare did the same thing first night out. I put a fly mask with ears on over it and no problems since - been at least six weeks.:)

[ThisTooShallPass]

Very good idea putting the fly mask over it!

I moved them to a dry lot to solve the lack of muzzle issue.

[equusus]

Has anyone actually tried cutting some of the webbing out of a 'regular' muzzle to see if that gives them more breathe-abilty without wrecking the muzzle??

I did, but I just cut holes in the webbing so the straps were still attached and giving strength.

Works good! I would not recommend cutting the rubber, it will tear.

[Steif]

Tractor Supply has some nice colored ones for $22.25. I used to buy ones that fit the nose, not anymore...the bigger the better! This one is a large/horse in Royal Blue with an extra layer of soft rubber inside the basket. I put it on, and then put the Weaver cribbing strap over so she can't get it off. Success!! and not one rub on her face.

[mjmvet]

I bought one of these a couple mo ago, and I had to modify it. I added an additional 'noseband' and two tabs as a previous poster had suggested. It worked like a charm. The basket is smaller than my 'Best Friend' model, but it does fit over her muzzle fine. The other thing I found, and I LOVE is a fleece product that lines the chin part of the basket. It fits this muzzle perfectly, and would also fit the Best Friend model. It took care of the rubbing problem under her chin.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Merino-SHEEPSKIN-NOSEBAND-PAD-fits-GRAZING-MUZZLES-NICE_W0QQitemZ390070954221QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item5ad20a68ed&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A1205|293%3A1| 294%3A50

Sorry about the long link!