Strain Family Horse Farm?

[brii7]

Wanted to know anyone else's expiriences there. Just went there to try and find a horse for a boarder at the barn, we actually did find one, unfortunately we got a BAD one first and brought it back.

[Hilary]

They've been horse traders for over 30 years.

About all I know about them.

[Nootka]

got one from Frying pan auction few years back. Dead quiet... got him home and was dead lame. Vet came out and flexed him and he was lame on all 4 legs. They did take him back without major drama.

My original horse supposedly came from them. Ben was purchased through Frying Pan from the Strains then I bought him from a private seller. Best horse I have ever had:yes:

They have had horses at every sale I have been to.

[chancellor2]

I've seen nothing good come from that place. Additionally, I've heard of strangles being VERY PREVALENT there.

[Nootka]

I have to add... I wouldn't be the first to jump up and bid on any of their horses. I'm not even sure I would have driven out to their place when I lived up in VA. Just ..... buyer beware:p

[atr]

It's not a place for a lone beginner. Take a knowledgeable friend--take two knowledgeable friends--who will shut up, listen and watch what is going on. It's a real education in the ways of a professional dealer's yard.

They have some really nice horses. They also have some they'd really like to get rid of. And like any sharp retailer, they'd like to get rid of their older stock first. I think almost everyone I knew who bought a horse from them took the first one back and replaced it with one of higher cost and better value.

[atr]

Oh yes, disinfect yourself thoroughly before you go back to your own barn.

[MHM]

Oh yes, disinfect yourself thoroughly before you go back to your own barn.

Also take a thermometer and take the temperature of any horse that seems quiet.

When they feel healthier a week later, the personality can change.

[caffeinated]

On the flip side, I know several people who had no issues and got decent horses from them. Years ago, but they were quite happy.

[equinelaw]

They sell a lot of horses at a lot of sales. Its a good place to find a horse if you are savvy and experienced and willing to take it back to auction the next week, but its not for the novice buyer. I would classify them as a wholesaler of horses like a big box store. You find it yourself, you try it yourself, you make sure its what you want and you do not expect and help or service or to pay too much.

I worked at a riding school in MD and they bought a lot of horses from those folks for the school through the auction. About half were good and half went back the next week.

One mare was really nice, but too crazy for a school horse. So of course I bought her. She was sound, but she sure wasn't as quiet as the night at the auction. But then later she was--much later--like a year later--so???? I sold her for a lot of $$ and she won some ribbons in the hunters, but I wouldn't do it again.

[MistyBlue]

If you're not very good at judging conformation or temperament...any large dealer barn isn't a good place for the buyer to go without help.
Strains has been around for ages. I've known tons of very decent horses that have come out of there. I've known a couple handfuls of duds too.
Bill is honest about what he has and what he knows about them. many horses they simply don't know that much about, they don't have them all forever and the amount of horses usually means they rarely have a lot of time to spend individually with each horse.
If you're shopping for a decent horse in a mid range price, it's a good spot to go and see many in one place. All ages, breeds, sizes, genders and even colors. if you end up with a crap one, return it for an exchange. You can do this continuously until you get what you want. You may/may not have to pay more if the next one you want is priced higher than the last.
And in all my years around horse auctions, dealer barns and even huge sales barns...strangles isn't unusual in places with massive turnover of animals. You quarantine what you can...but you can't steam clean each employee as they move about. So yes, do change and shower after visiting a large dealer barn or auction. Which a buyer should be doing anyways.

[brii7]

I went with my trainer, I rode the horses and she watched. I, not being a nervous rider, rode a chestnut QUIET mare there. We loved her and took her home. I rode her for the new potential owner, she was great, was definately a hunter in her past, jumped all the scary things in our ring, auto changes etc. Then the other woman got on (nervous rider) and trotted one lap, and the mare planted her feet and wouldn't move. Naturally my trainer tried to take her by the reins and walk her forward..Well she FLEW backwards rearing up etc etc. Thankfully the other woman stayed on. Since I play guinea pig at the barn (ride all the noobs, the way I like it) I got back on. The mare still wouldn't move even with a lounge whip behind her. When she finally moved she flew into the air broncing for a few strides than stopped dead and I came off. So I got back on, and she wouldn't move, AGAIN. Started the whole flying backwards/rearing again. Needless to say we took her back, but not before we noticed the boogies she had >.< We moved her into QT right away and all of our horses came out unscathed thankfully. So 2 weekends later we went back, brought the mare back, and their trailer pulled up right behind us with an appy in it (super cute!) He was there for 5 minutes, we rode him, hes quiet, honest, and we brought him home. We were much more careful this time and pine sol-ed water buckets, the floor, our boots, washed hands, totally pine sol-ed the trailer, kept the appys tack separate from all the other tack. He also went into QT but made it out ok; while we were there there was a horse HACKING, very scary. The woman came to ride him yesterday and thankfully, he is staying. SO, to anyone else wondering, you can get them good and you can get them bad at strain. I found they were honest and the horses in OK weight. The stalls were gross and some horses lame or looked like they had some issues in the legs. If your comparing to Crowleys, this is a much nicer place. I just wanted to tell everyone of my time there so everyone is aware >.< It also scared me that they dont wear helmets!

[Hunter's Rest]

Scary auction stories notwithstanding, I bought a horse for my mom frfom them at FPP 20 years ago. Tried it there. Liked it. Bought it. Took it home. It was sick and barn sour and my mom said, too big for her. She called Strain (thru FPP.) They asked her what she wanted. She described it (smallish, grown up, cob, doing-sort-of-horse.) They agreed to trade. She took the other horse to Timonium. They swapped it out for a black cob type.
25 years later, Billy is STILL the greatest horse ever made. He still gives little kid lessons and was the most perfect doing-horse (doing, as in, do anything with him - hunt, show, event, games, polo, play, bareback - you name it.)
Caveat emptor, but they don't want a bad rep. TELL them what you want. They know horses.

[Melelio]

They've been dealers longer than that, I believe. They buy horses from sales all over the country east of the Mississippi (last time I knew), like OH, KY, IL, etc. Then bring them home, work a bit, then off to a sale to sell them on. I never can believe any of their catalog descriptions because they can't have had any of them long enough to know them well, esp. having so many.

It's big time 'buyer beware' with them, and I won't go into my stupidity on my part story about buying from them many years ago....:rolleyes:

[MistyBlue]

I can count off the top of my head at least 15 lesson horses at area barns near me from Strains. Sane, safe and sound lesson horses. At least 10 privately owned trail horses and 5 kids' horses for pleasure riding and local shows and 4H.
Did all of them get the right horse the first time? Probably not.
But ask the owner Bill about horse selling, he'll tell you straight out the buyer who traded a time or two is usually the same ones who bought for color or cuteness. After they trade and state exactly what they want before trying/looking at all the pretty horses...the sales folks there can usually get them pretty much exactly what they want. It might be the plain bay or the kind of homely looking one instead of the chestnut with tons of chrome or the loud paint...but it's the right horse for them.
If a buyer is insisting on buying the "cool" horse or the "cute" horse they aren''t going to refuse a sale. This isn't a private sales barn, it's a big public dealer barn. Sales is their business and their business model haas been working strongly for longer than I've been alive. But they are decent enough to swap that incorrect horse for one that works for you once the buyer realizes it's not the right horse. And sometimes they just don't know as much about a certain horse due to lack of time with it but will still trade it for a better one later on for the buyer. Other horses they know better, not all purchases they make come from unknown sources and many of those they're reselling were brought in as trades from new buyers, it's like a car dealership that way. You can offer your own unsuitable horse to them as a trade for one that suits you and those folks give all the details to the dealer barn. I don't know many barns that will do that or trade previous purchases.
Are they perfect? Nope. Are they decent? Yup. Should someone not used to evaluating horses for purchase go by themselves? Absolutely not. It's the Auto Mall of horses...they will make good on a bad purchase though and they do have a ton of horses to check out.

[theoldgreymare]

Many years ago, my parents got many of their school horse's from the Strain's and Milton Potter. I don't remember any illnesses (but would have to check on that) but do remember that they always took something that didn't work out back in exchange for another horse.

I do know one person that bought a horse of theirs at one of the PAS Sporthorse sales and the horse turned out to be a complete nut case but I don't think that is any reflection on them.

[easyrider]

Be careful. And understand that a draft cross is the same as a warmblood!

[ThoroughbredFancy]

My friend bought some sort of warmblood from them who ended up being very mean and rank. She kept him for a week and returned him in exchange for the horse she has now. I believe they charged her $7000-7500.00 :eek: for her horse. Her horse had one lead, was green broke, spooky and underweight. They also claimed he was an appendix QH but mysteriously lost his papers when we wanted to know more.

I haven't been too impressed with the place or the horses there. Every once in a while I do see a decent warmblood cross on their website.

[Ghazzu]

A friend sold them a Clyde/Arab cross years ago (*with* papers, *and* freezemarked).

He was sold on by strains to a friend of a friend as "Anglo-Trakehner".

New owner was introduced to former owner, and horse's papers were transferred.

Why on earth bother lying about something that was so obviously disprovable?

[Bogie]

I've seen several horses that came from there. One girl I know exchanged three before she found one that stayed sound :no:. Another woman bought the horse because she felt so sorry for it :no:.

Yes, I have seen some horses from them that turned out to be okay but I would shop there only if you are very knowledgeable and I would have a FULL vet exam including drug testing.

[goldponies]

Stay away from them. PM if you need more info.

[EventerOP]

One of my very close friends got a horse from there that we all believed was drugged and she was sound for the week we got her and then went lame. She went through 3 horses from there and they all were'nt good and had some sort of major problem. I wouldnt trust getting a horse from there.
I have also heard about strangles and a few other things going around there.

[snicktrip]

I personally do alot of buisness witht the Strain family. I find them to be very upfront and honest with you. They have nice quality horses. I board at Bill Strain's sons place and most people there have his ex-school horses or horses from his sale barn. The only thing is I recommend, is that you bring an expierenced person with you and a checkbook. They sell within a week tops and you have to make a descison fast. Other then that, it truly is an awesome place.

Also if any of you has any info on this horse, please let me know!!


This horse was a school horse at my barn. He was my love, my everything. He is a tatooed TB gelding. Smaller, probably 15 hh. Bay with a wide blaze. He went through the Strain Family Sale Barn in Granby, CT. If any of you have any info on him, please let me know.His regestered name is STYLE SHOW and his tatoo number is C43356. Any info you may have is greatly appreciated. I miss him sooo much. I just want to know that he is in a loving home.

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[S1969]

I have heard that you can get a decent lesson horse there. No personal experience but don't imagine you can really expect outstanding results from such a large dealer. I am not a big fan of their ads that say "take him home, try him, and if you don't love him....bring him back!" Not exactly the same as saying "take him home, try him, and if you don't love him....bring him back -- but not as a refund....for a credit toward another horse when and if you ever find one you like."

I didn't realize this (not that I was ever looking) but having seen some of their ads I knew who they were. Someone at the barn I ride at bought a mare from them and it didn't work out, then had a very hard time finding another one for the value of the credit she had. Needless to say, not a great situation unless you know up front. Again, for a lesson horse prospect it could work out very well.

[dauphine2]

You can buy a nice, sound horse there. But to do so, you'll have to take your time in finding one, and go up with a very experience person (i.e. your trainer). It's not a place to go to if you live far away, and they do drug their horses. Trying out their horses in their saddles is very hard. The saddles are crap, and they almost never fit the horses.

But we've gotten some nice horses from them. My train got an OTTB their and trained him in everything - he was a top show horse. One of my close friends got a top notch prospect their this spring. Everybody is always asking what his breeding is, and their mouths practically drop when she tells them he's a full QH.


So yeah - buyer beware. Just be smart, and shop around at plenty of other places. It's worth taking a look at, though.

[Tialulu]

I'm looking for a TB chestnut mare (approx. 11 yrs old now) purchased Fall 2007 at the Virginia Hunter Professional Auction by the Strain Family Farm. She has a dent in her HQ visible by her tail like she had been poked by a steer; and a star on her forehead. 15.3 to 16.0 hands and otherwise a plain chestnut. Registered & unraced "Pinky's Playgirl" known at the time of sale as "Penny Lane." She may have shyness about having her hind feet touched & exhibit extreme reluctance. She had been abused in past by a farrier. Otherwise unflappable & great jumper. Just want to know if she's okay & available for purchase. Note: I did contact Bill Strain and he told me that he handles 1000 horse sales or horses per week and this was two years ago. I would expect that a professional horse dealer would keep records. He was unable to help me.

[dmalbone]

I would expect that a professional horse dealer would keep records. He was unable to help me.

From the sound of the other posts I see on here, apparently that was your first mistake. Good luck though!

[fivehorses]

From the sound of the other posts I see on here, apparently that was your first mistake. Good luck though!

that was a bit snarky:(

[lolalola]

Strain sells horses regularly at the Camelot Auction in NJ. Some of these go to the killpen, as he usually makes it clear there is no reserve.

[dmalbone]

that was a bit snarky:(

I just meant her mistake was what she thought about the "keeping records" part, not the selling or auction or whatever goes on or the situation with her horse (or the one she's looking for). I don't know the person, but I was only commenting based on a lot of negative comments I've read here. Maybe I misunderstood or misread, but I got the impression he wasn't extremely professional. My mistake if he is or that was misconstrued.

[juanbadcat]

Haven't heard good things either, too much to type. Be careful.

[Roxyllsk]

BO had a really nice paint mare that she was trying to sell for a while - she and the mare just did not get along. She took the mare up to Strains because they take 'trade ins' - the offered her next to nothing for this mare. So she picked out another one, and of course they wanted the trade in plus $$ for the new horse. First horse ended up being dead lame, 2nd horse had a serious bucking issue, 3rd horse ended up being ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 10 years older than they said, AND lame to boot - but the BO fell in love with the last one. It took almost a year but the old mare did come up sound, and is dead quiet.

Bottom line - they ended up paying (between trade in and cash down) over $8000 for a 25+ lame mare.

I've known a few others in the area with similar experiences.

[BravAddict]

I grew up and took lessons near Strains, so have ridden LOTS of horses that came through them. My mother, who did not ride for very long, remembers Strains vividly from when SHE was growing up. They are definitely horse dealers, and some of the horses have fishy stories (ie adorable, ranch-branded but paperless 2 y/o QH with a botched tail de-nerving, hmm indeed...).
Whoever said that they will give you what you want if you tell them what you want was quite right. I know of a young lady whose parents didn't seem to know any better...she went to Strains and said she wanted a black horse. And they gave her a black horse. First a Friesian, I think, and then a ginormous TB. In the end, neither horse worked out, to nobody's surprise.
My concern with them, as with any horse-dealer, is the lack of a paper trail and wanting to be able to ask how the horse got there in the first place. I would not buy something unpapered from them, although that is what people primarily do. Definitely go with a buyer-beware, no-nonsense attitude and a smart (non-neophyte) friend. On the other hand, they know the business and will take horses back.

[Blue Eyed Tovero]

I bought a recently broke 5 year old Paint mare off of them 9 years ago for $6,000 and she is wonderful. I finished her training and showed locally with much success through 1st level dressage, trail rode, and competed in halter, showmanship and model hunter. I have an awesome 6 year old out of her also. A back injury prevents any further riding but she is so well mannered I use her for teaching my vet. tech. students. She had a cough when I got her home but in 2 weeks she had come to Pa from Michigan via 2 auctions and 2 sale barns so I wasn't really surprised. I had a full vetting done and kept my fingers crossed.

[Jleegriffith]

The lesson program that I taught from bought many horses from them. Some turned out to be amazing and are still there and others were duds. We would drive up and pick out a bunch. If they didn't work out we would trade them back for something else. I think they told you what they knew and in most cases it wasn't a whole bunch. Prices were way higher than I would pay but the county program seemed to have no issues paying that amount of money for horses. I could have found nicer horses in downstate Delaware for 1/3 the price!

[Hip]

I'm probably the only person here who doesn't know who the Strain's are or Frying Pan whatchamacallit, but from reading all the posts, they sound like any other horse trader in the country to me, except they may be more liable to trade a good one for one that didn't pan out. The dealer I get some of my horses from is the same way. He'll trade you and, to people in the know around here, he does get some whoppin' good horses but doesn't show them to just any ol' body that walks onto his place. The good 'uns are in the back usually. When dealing with any trader, you better know your stuff. Same with the tack. He'll show you the cr@ppy stuff first and then when he ascertains you have a discerning eye, he'll take you in his house to the quality tack. The good part about him is that he does the traveling to find the horses and he's very fair about prices. I don't begrudge him a cent for making a profit. The horses are usually good to almost great.

ETA: When buying from any dealer, or just about anyone anyway, I assume they've been exposed to an assortment of bugs and 'usually' hit them with a round of pen. for good measure. That and keeping them in quarantine for a bit and you're good to go.