"Hi! Can I bury my Mother on your Farm Property?"

[slc2]

Yes.

Oh yes.

Would you allow it?

How about ashes?

[lesson junkie]

Does the deceased have some past connection to your farm?

[Sansena]

I would never allow burial of human remains on my property. I doubt it's legal, but even if it's not, well... creepy, so no way.

How big's the property?
I might allow ashes to be spread in a remote corner. But you might be opening yourself up to fruitcake visitors who now claim permanent free access to your land.

Sounds like "Sorry. I'm afraid that's just not possible" is the best response. This one falls under the 'no good deed goes unpunished' category.

[Bayou Roux]

$475/mo for eternity...maybe....

[MistyBlue]

Ashes? No problem...if the person requested that for a final resting place or if the family knows that's where the mother would have loved to be scattered I wouldn't have a single issue with it.
A casket...ummmm, no. Not even sure how you'd bring that one up to town hall anyways. :lol:

[Quin]

Is Mother dead yet?

Or were you planning on driving her out, killing her here, and then just pushing her into the hole?


----sorry, couldn't resist. I've never imagined the subject coming up, but I guess I would not have any problems with spreading ashes so long as EVERYBODY understands that they do not have any future right to access the property. Actual dead bodies? Um, no.................Large Stupid Dog drags home enough deer parts as it is. I don't even want to go there........

[MistyBlue]

Is Mother dead yet?


Aspirated coffee on that one Quin! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[pj]

In our County you can bury someone on your property. :D Yep. My friend has her husband buried almost in her front yard. What she had to do was set aside an acre of land that can be used for nothing but a cematary forever. I personally would not want dh in my front yard but whatever floats her boat.

[pony4me]

Years ago, we had a car come up the driveway and a gentleman and very old lady got out. The man explained that he was taking his mother for a drive because she grew up in this area. She recognized the house and barn because "that's my old home place!" We took her through the house and she told us stories of her mom cooking food on the fireplace, and of the old fruit trees that used to be on the property, some of which are indeed still standing. Her son was grateful that she got to see the place one more time. We never saw them again, but if there was a request to bury mom on the property, we probably would have allowed it.

[deltawave]

Ashes, I'd have no problem with. A coffin, and a grave? Mmmmm, no.

[IsolaBella09]

No! That would creep me out!

Quin and Bayou Roux :lol::lol::lol::lol:

[atr]

Ashes, no problem. My mother is in her favorite spot beside a pond in a glade in someone else's woods, so I'd be happy to pass on the favor.

A whole body? Nope. Not because it would be creepy, but I'm in a watershed area so I can't bury my horses, so no bodies here. I'd also prefer to not be responsible for someone else's relatives, deceased or not. I have enough trouble with my own.

[Catersun]

*is having thoughts* alas... too many people know who I am in real life.... ;sad;

[ASB Stars]

My first horse is buried here. It ain't legal, but that's too bad. They can come and talk to me about it... :lol:

My Mother? Let's not go there, today :lol:

Ashes- OK. Body...not so much. Blech.

[Lambie Boat]

we unearthed quite a few skeletons when building the arena last year. And good thing I have pitbulls, because these guys keep knocking on the door trying to sell aluminum siding, or offering to cut the grass but driving a back-hoe. well, at least my dogs have free bones for a long time and I don't have to worry about those pig ear chew snacks, what with the swine flu and everything

[JanM]

Before anyone considers a grave with a coffin in the back 40 consider two things:
1. Is it legal to plant humans on your property-and don't forget the coffin will deteriorate someday leaving a big void in the dirt.
2. Will you own the property forever (it would be very unfortunate to have a backhoe find Mom someday)

And scattering ashes in some places used to be illegal so keep it quiet. No big bon voyage parties might be a good idea.

[Tamara in TN]

our cemetary on this farm dates to 1800....it belongs to another family but we allowed them to place a new headstone for a grandfather this year...permission they needed to get before crossing one of our fancier alflafa fields to get to it...

another neighbor,who lives on a tiny tract our family sold him,erected a little cabin and soon died there and is buried in his yard right next to the hay field boundary...

one year soon after the headstone was erected, I hooked a too low phone line in front of his now empty house and in being distracted about that, nearly drove onto the grave after not unlocking my front tire breaks :lol::lol:

old Bill would have had a good hoot about that....he wondered about women drivers anyway....

best

[Auventera Two]

Sure, what the hell. :D Wouldn't bother me. Not sure why it would be creepy? :confused: People drop over every day. Gotta stick them somewhere.

[Pandarus33]

Well...

Part of my dad's ashes are out in my pasture. Most of them went to AP Hill (VA, I think) as he loved military history, having been in WWII. Since I wasn't able to make it, my mother sent me a little baggie of his ashes to spread out myself. My kids thought it was the grossest thing they'd ever seen or heard of, even though ashes are completely sterile.

For me, I was glad I got to spread a little of him since he supported my riding so much.

[Carrera]

Heck I told my Dad that when he died he's going to have his ashes spread in the manure pile.

And he thinks that I'm joking!!! I figure he spends enough time shoveling poop he might as well be with it.

[Casey09]

If it made me uncomfortable, I wouldn't do it. I guess I'm weird, but I'd be fine with it if I knew that it was legal and safe for the property. I've always been really fascinated by old graveyards, and I would really consider one a selling point, I think. I know a lot of people don't think that way, though, and if it was something that was going to bug me then I would just not do it.

[username]

several thoughts...

do you know these people?

if you don't, why did they ask you, or have they been asking all over?

is it even legal in your locaction?

shaking my head here....

[Daydream Believer]

Is Mother dead yet?



We (Mr DDB and I) both really enjoyed this question also!

I'd have to decline on a body being buried here but ashes would not bother me either. I have several beloved pets and horses that belonged to boarders interred here now and they aren't bothering anyone but I think a person being buried is a bit more complicated!

[ReSomething]

Where I used to live, no way and get off my place now, but here there are little family plots all over the place on the farms. Even back there we had the home builders family come by every once in a while to wax nostalgic about the place. They had a lot of good memories there.
So really a big maybe.

[greysandbays]

I don't think it's legal in this county (state?) to bury people just any old place, but if it had been, I would have preferred my mom to buried next to my old mare (well, now three old mares, but there was only one when my mom passed).

Since body burial isn't possible AFAIK, I've kicked around the idea of overcoming the family squeamishness against cremation and when my time comes, have my ashes scattered over the old mares' graves (however many there are by then...).

[Dance_To_Oblivion]

We close on our property Friday :D and there is a small cemetery along the back fence line so it doesn't really bother me to have people buried on the property but I am not quite sure about a random stranger unless they had some kind of connection to the property. That's a very odd question you encountered!

[Foxtrot's]

Can SLC please satisfy my curiosity and tell us why ? Who? Odd question. Several ranches we know have a consecrated area fenced off for family members. I thought they were rather historic. If the person was religious they would want the land consecrated, too. Also, why would a stranger, if they were one, want to be planted there. Do tell us more.

Remember, in New Orleans they have the coffins above ground - so they don't pop up because of the high water table.

When Hurricane Andrew (I think) hit the Bahamas a whole lot of coffins popped up and floated off into the sea.

I want my ashes scattered on the Trans Canada Trail so my grandchildren can say "Old Grandma is scattered here". (I don't have any grandchildren yet).

[Seven-up]

Remember, in New Orleans they have the coffins above ground - so they don't pop up because of the high water table.



Well, they're not exactly coffins just sitting there so you could go open it and see how grandma is doing....:lol: People are strange in N.O., but this would be pushing it, even for them.:winkgrin:

They're encased in heavy cement tombs.

What's really pretty freaky is that in the really old parts of the cemeteries, they used to have family crypts--you put someone in there and due to the insane heat, they would more or less cremate by themselves. So when another family member died, they'd go in the same place, and eventually all mix together. So they have several names on one little hole in the wall. :eek:

The really old cemetery in N.O. (by the train tracks) is a very fascinating place to walk around. Creepy, weird, not to mention dangerous (people hide in there and rob tourists) but fascinating for sure. It's kind of like Disneyworld. You can walk around for days and not see all of it.

[Go Fish]

This thread is giving me ideas about my mother-in-law...:uhoh:

[mvp]

If it's legal....

I would have said no until I read the post about the son and his very old mom seeing her old place one last time. You know, we don't get to keep our land forever. It was someone else's once. It will be again after we are gone. So why not let someone else who had deeply enjoyed the farm before you camp out discreetly underground?

I know this sounds all mystical 'n'sh!t, but I'd like to think that we all belong to the Earth in a big way that transcends human-made laws, property rights and so on.

Who knows, you could be creating some great karma for yourself by letting these people bury their mom there if it's really important to them. You want someone to respect your wishes, perhaps even putting up with your "whims" about that when you go, too, right?

Just think about it.

[sidepasser]

Like Tamara, I have an old cemetary. It dates from 1795 - to 1969. So yep, if you wanna haul Mom down to Ga. she can join the rest of the folks buried there, if they don't mind I sure don't.

I tend to the cemetary but none of my relatives are buried there, the previous owner was going to move the cemetary if I didn't want to buy it..I thought..mmm..move a bunch of graves..now that has to be violation of something and karma would surely get me..

I bought the cemetary with the farm.

sheesh, not only do I adopt old horses, I also adopt old dead folks too...so yep, I'll take her and hope the county doesn't notice a new member in the register. (my cemetary is on the National Register of Historic Cemetaries) I never knew they had such things till I bought the farm.

[lcw579]

In our County you can bury someone on your property. :D Yep. My friend has her husband buried almost in her front yard. What she had to do was set aside an acre of land that can be used for nothing but a cematary forever. I personally would not want dh in my front yard but whatever floats her boat.

What happens if she wants to move? Or date again? I'm thinking it would be a bit disconcerting to have dead husband in front yard when heading out with new man.:eek: Yes, my mind works in odd ways. :yes:



This thread is giving me ideas about my mother-in-law...:uhoh:

:lol::lol::lol::lol: - maybe this is the real reason DH won't buy me a farm!

[theoldgreymare]

I would have no problem with a family member being buried here on our farm. My father already has the tree he wants his ashes to be buried under picked out (unfortunately, it's on the front lawn of the house which I have mixed feelings about). I think I would even allow someone I didn't know who had a connection to our farm to rest here if it was there last wish.

Burying on your own farm is very common here and we are one of the few old farms that does not have it's own cemetery. I think in our county all caskets now have to be topped with concrete slabs as there were several incidents of caskets rising up out of the ground during floods :eek:.

[Everythingbutwings]

When we had our sweet Grizzles dog euthanized, I called my mom and asked if we could bury Grizzles at mom's house in the woods. Mr. Wings was listening to my end of the conversation.

"Mom, (sniff sniff) can we bury Grizzles in the woods at your house? You'll need (sniff sob) to come out while we dig (sniff) so we don't hit anybody".

I got off the phone and told Mr. Wings that Mom said to come on over. He asked me a bit askance about the need for direction, inquired as to just who was buried there.

"Well", I said, "there's dad's old dog, Tippy, and Buck, my sister's horse"

Mr. Wings nodded

"And Uncle Alan and Grandpa and Grandma, but Uncle Alan and Grandpa just got scattered, it was raining for Grandma and we didn't like the idea of the ashes sticking to us so we buried the box"

[Pony Person]

Not to derail from this lovely subject (:winkgrin:), but...


Remember, in New Orleans they have the coffins above ground - so they don't pop up because of the high water table.

That reminds me of that movie Double Jeopardy. Like that scene where Ashley Judd wakes up in a coffin in N.O.:dead: I can't watch that scene, I'm too claustraphobic.:o

Anywhoo, carry on!:D

[gieriscm]

In her Will my mom requested that her cremation ashes be scattered on a piece of mountain property she owned. Problem - she sold that land five years before she passed away. Oops. We thought it would be too weird to ask the current owners permission, especially since Mom hadn't owned the land for long and hadn't done anything with it. It was purchased as raw land and sold the same way. Not to mention that the family wanted to visit the spot in the future, and we thought that would be a big imposition on a private property owner.

So, Mom was put somewhere much more appropriate.

[loshad]

I bought the cemetary with the farm.

sheesh, not only do I adopt old horses, I also adopt old dead folks too...so yep, I'll take her and hope the county doesn't notice a new member in the register. (my cemetary is on the National Register of Historic Cemetaries) I never knew they had such things till I bought the farm.

Sidepasser -- you might enjoy The Graveyard Book by Neil Gaiman. A little something fun for someone with her very own cemetery. :yes:

While slc is giving more detail on this story, perhaps she can enlighten us about the cow that was gallivanting hither and yon a few months ago.

[yellow-horse]

where i live you can be buried on your property, i don't know what the regulations are but it is possible

[sidepasser]

Sidepasser -- you might enjoy The Graveyard Book by Neil Gaiman. A little something fun for someone with her very own cemetery. :yes:

While slc is giving more detail on this story, perhaps she can enlighten us about the cow that was gallivanting hither and yon a few months ago.

I'll give that book a look see on Amazon, my cemetary is full of history, you can get a lesson just reading the tombstones. I do have a Confederate boy who was killed in the Civil War up in Manasses I believe it was and his family had him shipped all the way back to Georgia for burial. Now back then, most folks were poor as church mice so couldn't afford to do that, but these folks got their son back and made him an elaborate headstone.

They appeared to raise lots of mules and horses on that old "homeplace" according to the census records, listing some molly mules and a horse stallion as part of the income.

Cemetaries like mine are fun to research in a way, gives you a look into how things were categorized but I am glad we have moved on to more modern times as people didn't live very long back then..50 was considered old and 70 - well ancient.

[pj]

What happens if she wants to move? Or date again? I'm thinking it would be a bit disconcerting to have dead husband in front yard when heading out with new man.:eek: Yes, my mind works in odd ways. :yes:





:lol::lol::lol::lol: - maybe this is the real reason DH won't buy me a farm!

She did date again for a while. Didn't seem to bother her or the guy she was dating.
:no:
She could move and sell all of her property except the one acre. It can't ever be sold.
I thought when she buried him there that if she wanted to sell that might be a deal breaker but she said she's leaving the place to her children so guess it's their problem.

[pj]

My parents owned a cemetary lot with a good number of graves on them. Over the years different family members were buried there. Grandparents, Uncle's daughter and wife, Dad's two brothers, etc. Finally my Dad and then there was one grave left. Dad's sister asked Mom about being buried in the family plot and Mom told her there was only one grave left and it was her's next to Dad. My Aunt was REALLY put out that a grave hadn't been saved for her (She should have kicked the bucket before some of the others and she'd have gotten a place. :) )
She and my Mom argued about it with Mom saying a final " well it's too late now and nothing we can do about it." Mom passed and was buried in her spot next to Dad.
A year later my Aunt died and her instructions to her sons was to have her cremated and pour her out ALL over the entire family plot. That is illegal but they did it. She always did have to have the last word about everything. :lol: I kinda hoped that the care takers would valcumn her up. :D
That would fix her.

[Foxtrot's]

OK - SLC - Where the heck are you. Enquiring minds need to know the WHY of your post?
(SLC is not one who is usually shy!!)

[Arcadien]

OK - SLC - Where the heck are you. Enquiring minds need to know the WHY of your post?
(SLC is not one who is usually shy!!)

Hey, have you ever tried to dig a grave hole? Even for a dog it takes a longgg time with just you and a shovel to get it deep n wide enough. :)

When SLC is done she is probably too exhausted & needs to rest awhile before filling us in (or wait for her victim to finish the project, y'know?) LOL

Arcadien,
who has a few pets buried, and one old cow that was there first (bones keep drifting up from the ground, lol)

[Foxtrot's]

:) :) :)

I sure have tried burying our various dogs. Here you have to be quick because the water table is so high (visions of New Orleans). We dig, wrap the bow in a blanket and sadly drop it into the appearing puddle. Then we plant a tree on top to make sure we don't accidentally dig another grave in the same spot. Our kids have made little concrete rounds for gravemarkers, too - names spelled out in pebbles on the concrete. Now, I'm sad. Last tree was a lovely "Yellow Bird" magnolia, currently flowering, for our yellow lab, Honey.

[MsM]

My mom does not always think things through. So she made arrangements for cremation when her mom was near death. However she forgot that there would be ashes! She called me on the phone (I lived a state away) and said that the funeral home had called and she had picked up grandma but didnt know what to do with her. I asked where she was now. She said "You know that file cabinet where I kept all her stuff? Well, ALL her stuff is there now!"
Eventually they decided to bury the box and place a dogwood tree over it. I guess my parents arent overly sentimental. Several years later they decided they didnt like the tree and unceremoniously had it cut down and the stump ground down and grass planted. :winkgrin:

[slc2]

The cow is something I have been avoiding asking the farmer about for many, many months.

As far as the reason for the question, two tearful people arrived here about a week ago, and spoke to my SO.

He came in and said, 'Couple of people want to bury their pet here'.

My SO doesn't always quite GET WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING.

So I.....I go out there, and say, 'You want to bury your pet here?'

'NO!!!!! It's OUR MOTHER!'

They were offended, I think.

And no, it was not a body, but ashes.

I was wondering how people felt about it, and it they would allow it.

Now you all can wager over whether I let them or not....

[ayrabz]

I think slc enjoys a great 'train wreck'..........
slc has posted on other threads, since begining this one. Hasn't come in here until now. Now, has come in, only to add "you all can wager over whether I let them or not" ----
why are you all rising to the bait?
Too much unsaid as to why this family would ask in the first place. Too much to fodder the fuel with ---without more information, or care.

[JeanM]

Wow. It seems odd to me that some places would ban ASHES being buried/spread! Geez, it's not like that would pollute the water sources or result in a skull popping up unexpectedly...

My dear former riding instructors would occasionally picnic in old, old graveyards. I have to admit, they are fascinating places, and so quiet, peaceful and pretty, I can understand why. [does that make me weird? OK, s'awright if it does! :cool:]

[cutemudhorse]

Is Mother dead yet?

Or were you planning on driving her out, killing her here, and then just pushing her into the hole?


----sorry, couldn't resist. I've never imagined the subject coming up, but I guess I would not have any problems with spreading ashes so long as EVERYBODY understands that they do not have any future right to access the property. Actual dead bodies? Um, no.................Large Stupid Dog drags home enough deer parts as it is. I don't even want to go there........

This one's great!!! My thought was; "Would that make me an accomplice??"

[LaurieB]

I'd also prefer to not be responsible for someone else's relatives, deceased or not. I have enough trouble with my own.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[cutemudhorse]

I had to look to see where OP lives. I used to live in a state where ANYTHING could happen. I believe this could come up somewhere. . . course where I lived they did bury their kin in the back yard. . . for various reasons. . . some by the light of day, others, well. . .

[JSwan]

You want to bury your pet here?'

'NO!!!!! It's OUR MOTHER!'

They were offended, I think.



Why on earth would two perfect strangers want to spread their mothers ashes on your land?

Heck - they could go to any public park, roadside ditch, or their own backyard if they wanted to - even if it was illegal.

What is so special about your property that strangers with dead relatives appear drawn to it?

Gotta admit I'm scratching my head on this one. Usually when strangers knock on my door they're asking for directions - not dropping anything off.

[Foxtrot's]

....s-o-m-e-b-o-d-y was into a little too much wine, methinks.

[Chall]

Friend of my parents told us during the great depression a family was passing through town in Wisconsin. Friend's family ran a boarding house. Visitors little daughter died and visitors wondered if they could bury her in friend's family plot and they would come back and re-bury later. This was during the time of the "Okies" everyone migrating around the country looking for work. 75 years later she is still buried in the Friends family plot (friend passed away two yrs ago at age 88). So not so strange during hard times.

[slc2]

The family had lived there at some point.

The mother had passed away some time after they left the property.

I let them scatter the ashes. They said they would not return.

[Foxtrot's]

...I'll finish the story for you. A long, long time ago a very happily married couple lived in a nice house. They had a blissful marriage. But times got tough and they had to sell the house and move away so they could raise their family as best they can. Soon after that Dad passed away and Mom always said the happiest days of her life were on that farm.
The family decided that Mom would like to be back on the farm, hence the question: with tears in their eyes they spread the ashes and left, knowing they would never come back.

(I have absolutely no basis of fact re the aforementioned.)

[Lambie Boat]

awwww, who cares if it's something that happened in reality? It was an interesting thread and made people think, laugh and ponder. What's the interwebs for? just use a topic for a jumping-off point. (that's what James Frey would say!)

(my answer was pure fiction)

[slc2]

Sorry Foxtrot, it wasn't quite that cheery.

[Mara]

Years ago, we had a car come up the driveway and a gentleman and very old lady got out. The man explained that he was taking his mother for a drive because she grew up in this area. She recognized the house and barn because "that's my old home place!" We took her through the house and she told us stories of her mom cooking food on the fireplace, and of the old fruit trees that used to be on the property, some of which are indeed still standing. Her son was grateful that she got to see the place one more time. We never saw them again, but if there was a request to bury mom on the property, we probably would have allowed it.
I don't know why, but this story brings a tear to my eye. Thanks for sharing.

[Seven-up]

Actually, what I keep thinking of is that King of the Hill episode where the old lady who used to live in the Hills' house comes to visit, and asks if she can die there. Hank says no, and she keeps trying to sneak back into the house because she promises 'it won't take long.' They get all freaked out because (after they've kicked her out several times) they walk in the house and find a tennis ball that fell off the bottom of her walker sitting in the kitchen, and then they open up a closet door and find her hiding behind all the clothes.:lol:

[Foxtrot's]

THAT story brought back a similar memory. A middle-aged lady came by and was looking a bit lost, so we asked her if we could help her. She said she was raised in our house and could she look around. Of course, we showed her around. She told us that the huge big oak trees on our property were planted by her Mom and that her Mom died in the house. We are not sure if she meant she got sick in the house and died in hospital, or if she died IN the house. As it happened I had a little oak tree planted in a one gallon pot, so I gave it to her. She had tears in her eyes and said she had exactly the place to plant it at her own home. Our house is 96 years old so has a few stories to tell, I'm sure.

Yup, if she wanted her ashes spread here, I'd for sure say yes.

[Reynard Ridge]

...the worms crawl in,
the worms crawl out,
the worms play pinochle on your snout ...

one little worm is kind of shy
he crawls through your brain and pokes out your eye ...

Earworm, anyone? :winkgrin:

[ShotenStar]

My Danish Grandmother (RIP) returned to Denmark to visit her surviving sisters when she was 82. On part of the trip, she and her sisters went to the old family farm to visit the family graves. What they saw was a farm field, with the grave stones all in a pile along the fence line. Since land is in short supply in Denmark, most old family grave sites are 're-cycled' .... People are buried, markers are put up, and after 20-30 years, the markers are removed and the land is returned to crops. Seemed quite sensible to me.

*star*

[Holly Jeanne]

That was nice of you SLC. I hope if I have to move before I go that the next owners might allow the same for me.

On a slightly different note, we put my Aunt's ashes out to sea at the same location where her husbands ashes had been put. Some months later, I had to have my cat put to sleep. My Dad did wood work so I called and asked if he could make something for Milo's ashes. His reply was something like, I still have your Aunts empty ash box how about using that. I now have two cats in my Aunts empty ash box. Somehow, I think she would like that.

[Mara]

...the worms crawl in,
the worms crawl out,
the worms play pinochle on your snout ...

one little worm is kind of shy
he crawls through your brain and pokes out your eye ...

Earworm, anyone? :winkgrin:

And THAT is why it will be cremation for me.

[danceronice]

For the person who's mom forgot that there would be ashes to deal with, you can have the funeral home handle everything--that's what we did with grandma (had them sent down to the cemetery where grandpa was buried and put in his grave plot.) We never had to handle them or deal with it at all.

Personally? I'd like to be buried on our property near all the pets. In part because that will create a permanent easement and force that section at least to remain undeveloped in perpetuity. And buried, not scattered--I am moderately skeeved by cremation and COMPLETELY disgusted by scattering. I mean, one, not putting my hand in (and I have eaten off tables where I've handled non-boiled, non-prepared human skeletons ten mintues prior so I am not easily grossed out-if anything I'm far less revolted by skeletons than cremains) there, two, what if the wind shifts and you end up with bits of the dearly departed all over you? If I HAD to be burned, I'd prefer it done so there's less total destruction (more siginficant bone fragments) and would want to be buried in a funerary urn so everything's in one place. Also preferably not burned by a crematoria as the grim fact is those are never 100% sterile clean between bodies so there's always a few ashes of someone else in with you. Ew.

Someone I didn't know? Uh....well, probably not, to be honest. Definitely no ash-dumping and for burial, I can't see why unless they had some prior connection to the property and didn't mind my determining plot location and boundaries.

[Foxtrot's]

This thread haunts me! For someone who is as frequent a poster as SLC and whose posts are the longest in COHT-dom, you have been very cagey about this one...:)

For me - I don't care that much - I'll be gone.

[unbridledoaks]

Creepy..... I'm sorry, but I would say no! LOL!

[Mozart]

Ashes, I'd have no problem with. A coffin, and a grave? Mmmmm, no.

Ditto.

[Mozart]

...the worms crawl in,
the worms crawl out,
the worms play pinochle on your snout ...

one little worm is kind of shy
he crawls through your brain and pokes out your eye ...

Earworm, anyone? :winkgrin:

We have a decorative Halloween skeleton that sings that song and dances when you approach it. It is exceedingly creepy and my family loves it :rolleyes:

[Alagirl]

This thread haunts me! For someone who is as frequent a poster as SLC and whose posts are the longest in COHT-dom, you have been very cagey about this one...:)

For me - I don't care that much - I'll be gone.


LOL, yes, I am still waiting for the back ground story to this one!

[vacation1]

I like graveyards, but I'm not sure I'd want strangers buried on my property. Selfish, maybe. Modern strangers, that is. An old graveyard, no problem. My favorite graveyard story was when a couple who'd moved moved into a brand new condo development near my house told friends of mine that they'd stumbled upon an old forgotten graveyard in the woods nearby, in the section of the property that was still undeveloped. They were all excited, maybe it was a genuine historic find. And then my friends realized the condos were built on a property that used to host a professional Halloween hayride every year. I worked there one year, and I wonder what else they left behind because they did major work on that hayride every year, lots of big sets.

She could move and sell all of her property except the one acre. It can't ever be sold. I thought when she buried him there that if she wanted to sell that might be a deal breaker but she said she's leaving the place to her children so guess it's their problem.

If the land's valuable, the body/casket could be exhumed and reburied elsewhere.

I've handled non-boiled, non-prepared human skeletons

I'm torn between competing images of CSI: Danceronics and Dexter's new bff danceronics. :lol:

[JSwan]

I want to be fed to the hounds.:D

[pony4me]

My son's been asked to take a nice walk around Kentucky Horse Park, and quietly scatter my ashes.

[Foxtrot's]

wasn't that in a movie - where the guy had a bag stashed in his leg and as he walked around a little dribbled out of his pantleg...it was a p.o.w. movie and they were digging a tunnel and had to get rid of the diggings. Your son could try that...

[Vandy]

Here's another :eek: story:

Years ago, when we were married, my ex-husband's father passed away. He wanted his ashes scattered in the National Forest where he and my ex had gone camping when ex was a child. He died in the middle of winter, so ex dutifully snowshoed miles into the forest to their old campsite and scattered most of the ashes, intending to keep some to place in an urn for his mother.

It was a very long day, and when ex returned home, his snow suit was sopping wet and filthy. Being a good wife, I put the snow suit in the washing machine and then the dryer. When I went to clean out the dryer lint trap, I kept finding little pieces of hard, off-white stuff and lots of grit. Well...you guessed it...ex had left the baggie with the rest of dear old dad in his snowsuit pocket, and the little white things I found in the lint trap (and all througout the dryer) were bones :dead: I eventually stopped using the dryer, because little pieces kept resurfacing in the lint trap, seemingly out of nowhere. A haunted dryer maybe?

So I guess that there is someone, well, not buried on my old property, but there. In the dryer. For eternity.

[Seven-up]

Well, Vandy, at least he gets to stay warm. :winkgrin: I can't imagine I'd ever wash so much as a sock for hubby ever again, though.


It's a good reminder for me to never buy a secondhand dryer. "Yeah, it's got a brand new drum, all new belts, and if you ever find any little chunks stuck to your clothes, don't worry. That's just Dad.":eek::lol:

[LAZ]

...the worms crawl in,
the worms crawl out,
the worms play pinochle on your snout ...

one little worm is kind of shy
he crawls through your brain and pokes out your eye ...

Earworm, anyone? :winkgrin:

My version was:

the worms crawl in
the worms crawl out
the worms play pinochle on your snout

your lips they turn a gastly green
and puss runs out like whipping cream

Somehow this runs through my mind when I first start canter work on track horses--they seem to hit that da-da-da da-da-da rythmn...

[caradino]

...the worms crawl in,
the worms crawl out,
the worms play pinochle on your snout ...

one little worm is kind of shy
he crawls through your brain and pokes out your eye ...

Earworm, anyone? :winkgrin:

baaaaahahahaha that's amazing.

if the person had a significant tie to my property (used to live there, etc.) i'd let them bury the body/scatter the ashes. no big deal.

i'm another one who really likes old graveyards. i just think they're cool! i can spend hours wandering around in them looking at the headstones. (does this make me creepy?)

i don't much care where my body goes after i die. i won't be using it anymore... doesn't matter to me what's done with it. donate it to science, give someone my organs, bury it, burn it, heck i'm not living there anymore, doesn't make a difference to me!

[tazz001]

We have my daughter and FIL buried on our property just overlooking the pasture. It's actually nice to go visit them w/o having to make a major fuss. My MIL stays busy with the flowers we have there. Not to mention just on the other side of the hedgerow is where all the family pets (hamsters and fish included)and some equine remains are intererred. Yes, it is a bit weird to think they are "right there" but nice knowing they are not forgotten.

[2DogsFarm]

...the worms crawl in,
the worms crawl out,
the worms play pinochle on your snout ...

one little worm is kind of shy
he crawls through your brain and pokes out your eye ...

Earworm, anyone? :winkgrin:

I can fix that RR:
(sung to the tune of The Old Gray Mare)
Great gobs of greasy, grimy gopher guts
Mutilated monkey meat,
Amputated horses' feet.
Great gobs of greasy, grimy gopher guts
And me without a spoon!

Personally I choose cremation*
What happens to my ashes is up for grabs since I have no kids and family is all around my age except for nieces, nephews who hardly know me.
Maybe if I leave them lots of money.....

*remembering the Three Stooges episode where Curly argued they couldn't cremate Larry because:
We ain't got no cream!

[Foxtrot's]

This thread refuses to die..... :)

[EponaRoan]

Now see, the version I learned was:

The worms crawl in,
the worms crawl out.
The worms crawl in
and they wiggle about.

Your eyes fall out,
your teeth decay
and that's the end of a wonderful day!

When you think about it, the whole decaying process is sort of cool - imagine if dead things didn't do it.

And then there's the whole natural burial movement which makes more sense to me than preservation/embalming.

http://www.beatree.com/

[danceronice]

I


I'm torn between competing images of CSI: Danceronics and Dexter's new bff danceronics. :lol:

LOL..more like "Night at the Museum II" if it were at all accurate! I used to work at NMNH and I did take Dr. Ubelaker's seminar on forensic anthropology. Most of the collection (ca 40,000 individuals or parts thereof) have not been prepared the way an anatomy-class skeleton is. Bones do not bother me.

And Dexter's bffs don't tend to last too long, so I think I'll pass.... ;)

[Sing Mia Song]

wasn't that in a movie - where the guy had a bag stashed in his leg and as he walked around a little dribbled out of his pantleg...it was a p.o.w. movie and they were digging a tunnel and had to get rid of the diggings. Your son could try that...

That's The Great Escape. My husband's favorite movie of all time. If he comes across it while we're flicking through the channels, all activity Must Stop while he watches it. It's a good movie, but I've seen it more times than I can count.

I've got a ridiculous crapload of other people's pet's scattered on my farm from when I managed the emergency practice. People would pay for return of ashes and then never pick them up. They got multiple phone calls, a letter every month for a year, then a few letters saying that if they didn't pick up by X date, dear Fluffy's ashes would be scattered on a farm. I would take them home and scatter them in my back pasture--but not on windy days!

[Rancher]

My moms friends mother passed away about 2 weeks before the mothers birthday. The friend called up my mother and invited her to a birthday party. She promised there would be cake, balloons and food. Then she said the party was for her 'Mommy'. My mom went there with some flowers for a gift and they had the urn on the table. They all sat around and sang happy birthday to the urn. (by this point my mother is quite freaked out). Everyone was talking to the urn like it was her sitting there.

A month or so later my mom was going to take a trip into the Rockies with my Step Dad. The family begged to come too so they could scatter the ashes in the mountains. They said they would let my step Dad know when they saw the right spot to pull over. The daughter picked out a spot and her, her husband and child cheerfully pulled out little baggies of ashes and HANDED THEM OUT. Everyone (including my family) were supposed to just grab ashes with bare hands and start scattering. My mom didn't want to upset her friend who seemed really unstable so they just went along with it. The wind came up and everyone got covered in ashes. My mother was in tears when she was telling me the story upon her return. Oh dear.

[Foxtrot's]

Your mother might have been in tears, she is much closer to the activity. I was grinning - people are so funny about death (I mean odd). Death comes to everyone. When I'm gone I want any usable parts to be used, the rest cremated and the ashes spread on the Trans Canada Trail. I want everyone to have a good time, party, drink, and tell tall tales of our whacky lifestyle.

My hubby is a fisherman and we have beeen tasked several times with putting ashes in the Fraser or Vedder rivers where the guys were happiest.

Regarding the daughter and FIL buried near the pets - that is absolutely beautiful and not 'weird' at all.

[MsM]

This thread is fun in a creepy way! :winkgrin:
I'm surprised at anybody being grossed out by cremation. (Although the twisted part of me wants to open a pizzeria for the breaved fueled by the departed!) :eek:
I am grossed out by burial. Glad my parents have opted for cremation. Not only am I reminded of the stories of the not-quite-dead being buried, I also have too vivid of an imagination. If I visited a gravesite I would not think holy or even fond thoughts - I would be thinking of the decomposition happening down there :(

[grabmaneandgo]

Tazz - I'm sorry your lost your daughter. It must be comforting to have even a part of her close by.

[SarahandSam]

I love the old farm cemeteries... my ex-uncle's family in West Virginia had one that I stumbled on way back in the woods... totally overgrown and forgotten, and simultaneously creepy and fascinating for my nine-year-old self. (: I like the idea of being buried in a place you love or have strong connections to, and it would be nice to have my loved ones in a place where I could just stop by and say hi and bring flowers to. I guess I've read "Anne of Green Gables" a lot.

If I owned farmland I'd let a stranger scatter/bury ashes there if the person had a connection to the land... I don't know about an actual burial; think that would depend on legalities and practicalities with the land...

Then again, I got engaged while picnicking six feet above the Hathaway family in Forest Lawn Cemetery here in Buffalo; we had our first date there, and our wedding pictures (http://inlinethumb18.webshots.com/42705/2464139090103168069S600x600Q85.jpg). So my opinion is probably discounted; I like graveyards... (:

[slc2]

This is even better than the one about riding my tack trunk.

[Foxtrot's]

I have no idea what you are talking about...!

[slc2]

Some time ago I posted asking for advice on riding my tack trunk. I was standing on the truck to clean the tack room in the trailer, and it flipped over. The moment proved inspirational.

[MistyBlue]

Wow, the Natural Tack Trunk Training thread...that's an old one! It was funny as hell though.

Reynard...I haven't sung that song since I was a kid!
And 2Dogs...that's another oldie but goodie. We sang is a bit different though:

Great green globs of greasey grimey gopher guts
Mangled up monkey's feet
Chopped up parakeet
All wrapped up in purple porpoise pearly pus
and I forgot my spoon!
Don't you wish you had a straw! :lol:


We also sang:
McDonald's is the kind of place
Where they serve you rattlesnakes
French fries up your nose
Pickles between your toes
And don't forget those chocolate shakes
made from polluted lakes
Last time I went there
they had fried underwear
McDonald's is my kind of place!

Ya know..looking back on my childhood, we were pretty sick kids, LOL!
Although even back then we knew fast food was sucky as hell. :winkgrin:
There was one for the Burger King song too...the "two all beef patties" song but I can't remember it.

[Aggie4Bar]

2Dogs & MB: Too funny... I've been teaching that song to my 4-year old stepson. He sings it at the table. :winkgrin:

But the version I learned was...
Great green gobs of greasy grimy gopher guts
Mutilated monkey meat
Itty bitty birdy feet
Great green gobs of greasy grimy gopher guts
To eat without a spoon!

What's more, I learned that in 3rd grade in Saudi Arabia. Granted, it was a western school... but just goes to show that these gems travel worldwide. :)

[caradino]

now i learned the gopher guts song yet ANOTHER way!

great green gobs of greasy grimy gopher guts,
mutilated monkey meat,
little birdies' bloody feet!
great white gobs of eyeballs rolling down the street,
and me without my spoon!

my mom taught it to us.

what a gem. :D

[Vandy]

Here's the version I remember:
great big gobs of greasy grimy gopher guts
mutilated monkey meat,
little TURDY birdy feet!
great big gobs of greasy grimy gopher guts
and I forgot my spoon...
but I've got a straw

:dead:

[Foxtrot's]

Bart Simposon would be proud of you lot - ! - you are very odd.

[EponaRoan]

We had a different version of the McDonald's song. Funny how these things vary.

McDonald's is the kind of place
Where they serve you rattlesnakes
French fries up your nose
Pickles between your toes
And don't forget those chocolate shakes
made from polluted lakesOur version:

McDonald's is your kind of place
Hamburgers in your faces
French fries between your toes
A dill pickle up your nose
And don't forget those chocolate shakes
made like polluted lakes

There must be people who study this - it reminds me of the urban folklore class I got to take as an upper level! elective in college. And yes it was a lot of fun. :lol:

[2DogsFarm]

Wow :eek:
I am amazed at the number of Gopher Guts song versions out there
And I was thinking I might be the only former Twisted Child...

We also used to end the Worm song by singing in a funereal dirge-like voice:
Pray for the Dead and the Dead will pray for you

I guess I'm too old for the Mickey D songs :(

[Alagirl]

and it's not even halloween....

[Reynard Ridge]

Reynard...I haven't sung that song since I was a kid!.

:confused: Since you were a kid?? But, didn't you teach it to your children??

:winkgrin:

[lcw579]

Wow :eek:
I am amazed at the number of Gopher Guts song versions out there
And I was thinking I might be the only former Twisted Child...

We also used to end the Worm song by singing in a funereal dirge-like voice:
Pray for the Dead and the Dead will pray for you

I guess I'm too old for the Mickey D songs :(

I agree with you on all points 2Dogs! We used to sing that at the end of the Worm song too. ;)

[Bluesy]

...the worms crawl in,
the worms crawl out,
the worms play pinochle on your snout ...

one little worm is kind of shy
he crawls through your brain and pokes out your eye ...

Earworm, anyone? :winkgrin:


Hahaha - this totally reminds me of this song by Jonathan Coulton, which is an ear worm as well:

RE: Your Brains (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjMiDZIY1bM)

"All we wanna do is eat your brains
We're not unreasonable, I mean,
No one's gonna eat your eyes"

(it's about zombies)

p.s. this thread had in hysterics mostly, but also disbelief at the snark-iness (is that a word? Well it is now.)

[CanterQueen]

In our County you can bury someone on your property. :D Yep. My friend has her husband buried almost in her front yard. What she had to do was set aside an acre of land that can be used for nothing but a cematary forever. I personally would not want dh in my front yard but whatever floats her boat.

Too creepy for me. Maybe my EX-HUBBY . . . . :lol:

[Alagirl]

Too creepy for me. Maybe my EX-HUBBY . . . . :lol:


What? Keep your friends close, your enemies closer? :lol:

[Mozart]

Too creepy for me. Maybe my EX-HUBBY . . . . :lol:

Problematic if you in any way contributed to his demise. Remember, friends help you move, real friends help you move bodies. :cool:

[Alagirl]

Not to mention you can hide - uh burry a lot of bodies on 1 acre! :D

[Foxtrot's]

THAT'S IT!! Get everyone you know to bury their loved ones, or not, on their land. It would severely cramp the style of the developers having to leave one acre greenspaces where they want to build condos.

[cloudyandcallie]

A guy I used to work with was the person chosen by his grandmother to scatter her ashes over Roswell GA from an airplane. he went up in the plane, and the door was opened, and the ashes all blew back onto him. I think they later went down his drain into the chattahoochee river and are now somewhere in the gulf of mexico.

I did always ship my dogs and cats bodies (via Delta Airlines) back to Savannah for burial in the family plot when I lived in Atlanta. Didn't want some subdivision being built where I might have buried them.

If you want to hide a body, don't bury it on your land. Take it to a south GA swamp where either the gators or wild hogs will take care of the remains.

[pony4me]

I had a friend who was hassled by real estate developers for many years. To get rid of them, we suggested she ask, "But what about the cemetery?" Poor country folk, poorly marked graves, many acres. Eventually they did sell to developers, but they did delay it for a while.

[JohnDeere]

I have no relatives for friends burried on my property but this thread is TO FUNNY!

Remember, friends help you move, real friends help you move bodies.
:lol: I want that on a tshirt!

[EponaRoan]

I think composting would be an excellent way of getting rid of a body. :yes:

What?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/newsnight/2007/04/ill_compost_your_corpse_1.html

It would also make for an excellent episode of CSI:COTH in which they somehow figure out what happened by following the evidence! :lol:

[Foxtrot's]

I'm still in the dark -- why was this thread started and what IS the real story. The OP has disappeared.

[Alagirl]

I'm still in the dark -- why was this thread started and what IS the real story. The OP has disappeared.


She is probably leaning back, getting a good giggle while sipping on some Chardonnay! :lol:

[Foxtrot's]

Yeah, I gess so - it is quite funny in a macabre sort of way.

[goobs]

SarahandSam - that has to be one of the most beautiful wedding pictures I have ever seen! And you look tres gorgeous too!

[SarahandSam]

Thank you, Goobs! It was a gorgeous spot for pictures. :)

[feather river]

Heck, I've got a bunch of horses, a few dogs, a couple goats--I used to bury the chickens, but now they just go off to the dump.--so it wouldn't bother me. But I think my county has some rules about burying humans.

I told my daughter I don't want to be buried anywhere. Imagine having to stay in that one spot for eternity.

Cremate me and spread my ashes anywhere you want--preferably over by/in the ocean. Don't spend the money on a funeral, just have a big feed and tell lots of stories about me. I won't care, I'll be dead.

ps/ever seen a hearse with a luggage rack? you ain't taken it with you!

[feather river]

Heck, I've got a bunch of horses, a few dogs, a couple goats--I used to bury the chickens, but now they just go off to the dump.--so it wouldn't bother me. But I think my county has some rules about burying humans.

I told my daughter I don't want to be buried anywhere. Imagine having to stay in that one spot for eternity.

Cremate me and spread my ashes anywhere you want--preferably over by/in the ocean. Don't spend the money on a funeral, just have a big feed and tell lots of stories about me. I won't care, I'll be dead.

ps/ever seen a hearse with a luggage rack? you ain't taken it with you!:eek:

[Alagirl]

Heck, I've got a bunch of horses, a few dogs, a couple goats--I used to bury the chickens, but now they just go off to the dump.--so it wouldn't bother me. But I think my county has some rules about burying humans.

I told my daughter I don't want to be buried anywhere. Imagine having to stay in that one spot for eternity.

Cremate me and spread my ashes anywhere you want--preferably over by/in the ocean. Don't spend the money on a funeral, just have a big feed and tell lots of stories about me. I won't care, I'll be dead.

ps/ever seen a hearse with a luggage rack? you ain't taken it with you!:eek:

LOL! sounded like something redneck at first!

So what are you gonna do? get cremated and have your kids put you in an hour glass? :lol:

[selah]

There is the most beautiful shagbark hickory tree on the hill above my barn, in a place where it is still legal to plant where you like.
I got into the habit of pointing up to the spot and telling the family that there is where they could plant me when I died.
My then 14 year old daughter would get soooo upset. We all thought it was because she hated the thought of my dying (especially as I have been diagnosed with breast cancer twice).
Eventually she blurted out the truth..."That would be a waste of a perfectly good piece of property...who would we ever be able to sell it to?!?"

Always knew there was something wrong with that child....doesn't like horses, either:sigh: