Stallion suggestions?

[StarDoozer]

All right all you brillant breeders... Here are the requirements:

-Fresh semen
-Expressive front leg
-Lighter type
-Nice temperament

:-) Go!

[StarDoozer]

51 views and not one reply? I'm disappointed!

[TKR]

You didn't mention a registry -- but, Coromino sure produced a nice baby for me that fulfilled those requirements. He's not one on the radar particularly, but worth a look. The baby is now in Virginia with his new owner starting his dressage career. Lovely gaits, type and temperment.

Pennyg

[Oakstable]

I agree with Penny on Coromino.

Scot Tolman was impressed enough years ago to consider buying him.

UB-40 comes to mind, too.

[shea'smom]

ok, how about Wildcard, stonecropfarm.com

[horsechica58]

Jumper or Dressage stallion?

And do you have a particular registry in mind? :)



P.S. Would LOVE to see pics of the mare :yes:

[DownYonder]

Royal Prince or Rubino Bellissimo?

I agree about UB40, although I hear he tends to make hotter type foals.

One of the lighter, quieter Sandro Hit sons like Sure Hit might work for you, too.

[bluemoonfarms]

Fabuleux and DaCaprio both would be good fits and have very nice offspring. Barb Schmidt is great to work with which makes it even nicer. :winkgrin::winkgrin:

[Dressage_Diva333]

I'm going to second DaCaprio. I've seen him in person at Barb's farm, and he was trotted out in hand for us. He got very light and expressive in the front end. He is definately lighter type too, with a beautiful head.

[baywithchrome2]

Fabuleux and DaCaprio both would be good fits and have very nice offspring. Barb Schmidt is great to work with which makes it even nicer. :winkgrin::winkgrin:

I'd have to disagree on the Fabuleux recommendation as all the babies I've seen have more of a hunter-esque front leg. Nice freedom and swing through the shoulder but very flat kneed.

More info about the mare would be a big help for suggestions although I did see a very, very nice Rubino Bellisimo the other day. :cool:

[StarDoozer]

Yay!

Ok, we have four girls to breed this year. All breeding for dressage.

Number 1) Regazzoni x World Cup x Grande Presented us with a beautiful Pablo filly this year. She is about 16.2, BEAUTIFUL, sweet, lovely mover. She is super behind, but is a little straight in the shoulder. She could also be a little bit lighter in type. They don't come any sweeter than her though! http://www.imajica.net/Royale%20at%20Keuring%20004.jpg

Number 2) Hierarch x Charmeur x Porter This is a maiden mare. She is a super mover and really nice type, just heavier than what they are breeding for today. She has a great temperament, but there is some FIRE back there in her pedigree, so we'd like to stay away from the Jazz lines, etc. Basically if we could produce a leggier version of her, we'd be thrilled. (not the greatest picture, lol) http://www.imajica.net/zinnieconf07.jpg





The other two are going to our own stallion, Olivier. One is an amazing Balzflug x Dutchboy mare and the other is a Doruto x Omega mare. Both SUPERRRR girls. The Doruto competed at Grand Prix and we already have two foals from this cross. Nice enough to have a three-peat!

I have to post a picture of the Balzflug mare because she is perfect: http://www.imajica.net/Olympia2.jpg

And the 2008 filly from the Olivier x Doruto cross: http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1347/139/28/504920588/n504920588_2232520_7142.jpg

[horsechica58]

DaCaprio would be a lovely choice :)


I haven't seen too many Liberty Gold offspring, but I think he fits your requirements. (Others please chime in on the temperments of foals, I have little to no experience actually dealing with them :D)

[Edgewood]

Well, I won't repeat everything that I said on this thread (http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=183948&highlight=wolkentanz+ii), but Wolkentanz II is now in Canada (www.warmbloodscanada.com (http://www.warmbloodscanada.com)).

He is really lovely in type and has a very nice front leg. They have a new video of him thru 2008. He received two 10s on Rideability at his SPT. He has 25 S wins (16 are 1st-3rd place) and has a very high percentage of S level offspring (when compared to other stallions his age, especially since he has fewer overall #s of offspring). Huge breed values in the 2008 Jahrbuch Hengste for riding horse points and dressage points.

You might want to take a look at him for your mares. Obviously, for the 1 mare, you would be line breeding to World Cup I.

[Marydell]

HI Elizabeth,

I don't know if you had time to actually watch him go as you were both in the same classes at White fences, but Don Principe also meets your requirements.
You can see alot of Don Principe offspring out of "R" line mares on our site. In fact, the cross with both Royal Diamond and Rotspon has produced USDF HOY Champions and reserves consistantly.

Maryanna Haymon
www.marydellfarm.com
2007 USEF Breeder of the Year!

[saxony]

Farrington (Majestic Gaits) would meet all you requirements, plus he's beautiful!!

[Kovy]

Dacaprio!! I choose him for my SPS mare who needed 3/4 things on your list. Foal is due next month and I am sooo excited! :D

[Maryanne Nicpon]

That Regazzoni mare is gorgeous. I'd like to go in a different direction than the other posters and suggest the Holsteiner stallion, Camiros. I think he offers everything you are looking for. I am thrilled with my Camiros daughter and she was Main Mare Premium Select at her AHHA inspection (50 bonits).

[StarDoozer]

Ok I think leaning toward Dacaprio for the Hierarch mare and Wolkentanz II for the Regazzoni... :-) They are awfully special boys!

[Oakstable]

Why are you shopping among the "fresh" stallions?

[StarDoozer]

One is a maiden and the other we will probably try one dose of Quaterback on and if she doesn't take then we will go for someone fresh.

[Dressage-ryder]

I would say Dicaprio is a wonderful idea and I love Wolkentanz II.


On the Fabuleux comment.....I have seen at least 10 in person and had two myself. I think they are very correct which is why they place so high at breed shows and inspections. I wouldn't use him to refine or to produce a lighter type however.

[Corfino]

I would suggest looking at the stallion Domiro (by Donnerhall). He passes on a wonderful temperment and is beautiful. The website is www.lucchettiranch.com

[Evntr4Life]

I would say Dicaprio is a wonderful idea and I love Wolkentanz II.


On the Fabuleux comment.....I have seen at least 10 in person and had two myself. I think they are very correct which is why they place so high at breed shows and inspections. I wouldn't use him to refine or to produce a lighter type however.

although i have only seen a few i would have to disagree. I know a Parabol/Romiros Son II that is MUCH heavier in type and produced a very leggy, light, mor modern riding by fabuleux.

[Dressage-ryder]

Interesting... All the ones I have seen haven't been heavy per say but weren't much more refined than their dams. I don't mean to imply he throws heavy-- I just wouldn't breed him to a heavier mare hoping to get something super refined and light.

That is just based on the ones I have here and seen in person at shows and inspections.

Our two fillies are wonderful and we couldn't be happier with them.

[clint]

I wouldn't use Fabuleux to refine either. I have a modern type mare who produced a very large Fabuleux, this from his first crop so this girl is now four. She is almost 17 hh, with large bone, feet, to match.

Dacaprio's reputation is as a refining stallion, so of the two Bridlewood boys, I think he would be better for a lighter type.

I have seen many lovely foals from Domiro out of a variety of mares. There is usually at least one foal tops at our AHS inspection, and they have turned out to be very nice riding horses.

[sixpoundfarm]

Domiro looks to be a nice stallion, I'd be interested to hear more about him.

What about Royal Prince, as someone suggested? He certainly has put some beauties on the ground.

I think Richman is interesting, he has a good pedigree, with some of that Quattro blood that seems to be of interest to many. He looks tall and leggy, and is currently showing.
www.richmanstallion.com

Any registry preference Liz?

[Dressage-ryder]

I really like Domiro. He stands at the barn where our Fabuleux filly is in training and every time I see him I am more impressed. He produces really nice foals. I have met about 15 in person and at shows. His babies place very well in both under saddle classes and inhand shows. Kevin is great to talk with and could offer insight on the best type of mare to cross with.

[Dressage_Diva333]

although i have only seen a few i would have to disagree. I know a Parabol/Romiros Son II that is MUCH heavier in type and produced a very leggy, light, mor modern riding by fabuleux.

I know a Fabuleux out of a Parabol/ Ramiro's Son II mare as well, perhaps the same one? I love Fabuleux, I've seen him in person and he is a lovely boy :yes: There is some Thoroughbred influence in Fabuleux's bloodlines from Augstinus xx. It's interesting, I've seen Fabuleux do a lot of refining, as well as sometimes add bulk. It depends a lot of the mare line I think. But I do think you'll get a fancier front leg from DaCaprio.

I do like Royal Prince as well, but he can through very tall. I have seen some absolutly stunning offspring by him. My friends have a mare with very simliar breeding to Royal Prince (Rohdiamant/ Prince Thatch xx/ Wenzel I), and the mare is Rohdiamant/ Akzent II/ Wenzel I, I absolutly love her! She's produced some super offspring :D I like the Rohdiamants :)