Update post 55 - RIP little one - Please jingle for our brand new filly....

[rideagoldenpony]

Born this morning -- I missed the birth by an hour (I'm estimating).

Her lungs are full of amniotic fluid. We've been holding her upside down (pony baby) per the vet's instructions and she's lost a bunch of fluid that way. She sounds about half better -- she's still making an awful "horking" noise when she breathes, but it WAS a lot louder.

She is out of a STUNNING little imported mare -- and the foal is a palomino filly with tons of chrome -- EXACTLY what I wanted.

The vet is on her way, but not here yet. I'm not terribly hopeful, and feeling really sad.

Please jingle for our darling little girl.

[Dressage-ryder]

Hugs and my fingers are crossed for a wonderful outcome!

[Carol Ames]

Jingles, hugs and lots of positive and healing thoughts and prayers:yes:

[Signature]

Jingling hard for your little girl, she sounds perfect!! Keep us posted!

[alliekat]

Sending lots of jingles for your little filly.

[cottagefarm]

Jingles Gretchen.
I hope everything works out okay!

[VirginiaBred]

Oh No!!!

And a FILLY to boot!

Prayers for her.

[Sobriska]

Gigunda jingles for the wee one.

[grayfox]

Jingles for your beautiful baby.

[jilltx]

Huge, Texas-sized ***JINGLES*** for your little darling girl.

[ilikridn]

Oh, no... Jingling for a happy ending and a healthy little filly!

[Hillside H Ranch]

Jingling hard for your filly!

[Iron Horse Farm]

Big Michigan jingles on the way for the wee one and HUGS for you!

[Quinn]

Sending all my best wishes and jingles your way. Thinking very positively here.

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[Zu Zu]

JINGLES from Kansas !!! AO JINGLES JINGLES JINGLES!!!!!

[FLeckenAwesome]

Sending more jingles from Georgia! Good luck and don't forget to post pics when she is feeling better :)

[clint]

Many jingles from California for your beautiful filly!

[Home Again Farm]

Sending a million jingles from FL!

[Daydream Believer]

Sending jingles! This must be the morning for sneaky mares...I had a surprise filly also.

[Fenway]

Oh No! How awful! Jingling like mad for your new little girl. Please keep us updated.

[rideagoldenpony]

Thank you so much everyone.

The vet just left.

It's worse than I thought.

We held her upside down and got a LOT of fluid out of her..... but she still is making a "horking" noise when she breathes. Her face is really dished -- more than what we are accustomed to. The noise seems to come from the front -- vet thinks that probably her airway is restricted -- possibly some kind of deformity. She thought that perhaps she had laid in the mare against the pelvis and had grown incorrectly.

I came >< this close to having her put her down, and then we decided to wait and at least see how she does through the day.

NOT in her favor is the fact that she is not trying to nurse. We milked the mare and she drank some, but she does not have a strong suck reflex, which is very unusual for our pony babies.

She's absolutely gorgeous. I'm pretty devastated.

[Daydream Believer]

Oh damn...I'm so so sorry. I will keep jingling for her.

[Sakura]

Jingles from VA... Hope she pulls through!

[Crosiadore Farm]

Majors jingles from MD. I am so sorry her condition is more complicated than first expected.

[Fenway]

Oh man. I'm so sorry. I'll keep jingling. Come on, little girl!

[Cinnybren]

Sending Texas sized jingles and positive thoughts.

[tntpony]

Come on baby...JINGLE, JINGLE....

[trakmom]

I wish I could give you a hug. Tons of jingles for your pony girl.

[SpruceLane]

Southern Ontario jingles from everyone at Spruce Lane Stable. She sounds like a beautiful girl. Hope you get the chance to see how she grows up. :(

[Rhyadawn]

praying for your little girl

[wrightwoodfarms]

Jingling like mad from California.

[Nootka]

I am sooo sorry:( I hope things change for you

[Sugarbrook]

OH GRETCHEN: My heart goes out to you. I wish you the best possible outcome, but am realistic to know sometimes its taken out of our hands. You will know what to do. Meanwhile we will just wait for some update. Even if you had of been present at the birth you could not of changed what was. My prayers will be with you and the little filly.

[Cancara]

Sorry about the news from the vet, wishing the best of luck for your little girl.

[FLIPPED HER HALO]

More California jingles she pulls through!

[spacely]

Massive jingles. :(

[monami]

Jingles For you!

Just so you know I had a horse with a facial deformity where half of his face for a lack of a better term is caved in. They believe it happened in utero. He is in his early 20's and still showing in the Hunters with one of my best friends.

Also- Our 09 foal that is on the ground had the same honking noise. He is perfectly fine now, our vet also does a lot of cattle and she said she sees that ofter in calfs. She said she actually grabs them by their hind feet when they are born and swings them around!!!!!

Hopefully your little one is improving !!!

[Edgewood]

jingles for your filly!

[Home Again Farm]

Sending more jingles...

[rideagoldenpony]

Thank you everyone for your thoughts and kind words.

She is hanging in there. We are milking the mare and feeding her every hour or less. She only has the desire to suck for a little while when she first wakes up.

I called and chatted with Kathy (equine-reproduction.com) about her, to see if she had any ideas. Kathy suggested a way to get more milk in her, and posed the question about whether the sound she has been making is roaring.

After reading about it, and how she is right now, I'm thinking that is probably not it.

Actually, I think her breathing seems somewhat improved. Still a bit labored, still "wheezy", but not the honking sound she was making earlier.

We were able to get a little more milk into her with the 1 pm feeding than we have been. She has ZERO desire to look for milk from her dam -- in fact from the time I found her in the stall (at approx 1 hr old +/-) she has not looked for milk, except to suck her tongue when she first wakes up from a nap.

I have to say, it is really a roller coaster of thinking she's doing a little better -- then not. And she's about the most darling little thing you can possibly imagine with enchanting yellow eyelashes, tiny tippy yellow ears and a tiny pink nose. It's hard not to fall in love. I of course am realistic and know that this likely has a negative prognosis, but for now we are following everything the vet recommended and doing the best we can....

We'll see what happens.

[monami]

Do you think she is possibly a bit dysmature and/or hypoxic? The tongue sucking is sometimes seen in dummy foals. Do you have a hospital you can take her to?

[alliekat]

Still sending lots of jingles and prayers your way.

[rideagoldenpony]

Do you think she is possibly a bit dysmature and/or hypoxic? The tongue sucking is sometimes seen in dummy foals. Do you have a hospital you can take her to?

Unfortunately a hospital setting is not an option here, unless things are quite bad. It's a long drive. Her dam came to us extremely, extremely wild, and while she has really improved since she has been here, it would be difficult to deal with her in a hospital setting, I suspect.

The tongue sucking she is doing does not seem to be anything other than what foals typically do when they would really LIKE to nurse, but haven't attached themselves to a spigot yet.

I'm certainly not discounting that she could be a dummy foal -- that is looking like a strong possibility at this point. She doesn't seem dysmature (and was born at 339 days), but obviously things are far from ideal!

Any and all ideas are most certainly welcome.

[hluing]

Jingles from Florida. I know what you mean about a roller coaster, but it sounds like she is making some improvements...lets hope it continues. Did the vet tube her with colostrum? Is there an equine hospital close by? Thinking of you and the precious filly.

[Dressage_Diva333]

Jingles coming from California. Good luck!

[peskee]

My heart goes out to you and her. I would love to see a picture of the little cherub. How about letting us see those golden eyelashes? We in Pa are sending powerful jingles your way. I had a beautiful Sir Sinclair/Roemer born on April 8 and almost lost his mother. It looked quite grim and now all is looking wonderful so remember your diligence to this little lady will pay off. Keep the faith and remember we are thinking of you both.

[kookicat]

Sending more jingles!

[Indy-lou]

Best wishes to you. We all know what you are up against and hoping for the best.

[rideagoldenpony]

Again, thank you everyone. I sure appreciate all of your good thoughts.

My husband and I think she has an obstruction in her throat.... that's just a guess of course, but it sure seems like it. The honking noise is gone. She is now just wheezy, which seems like an improvement. Did I say that already? I apologize if I did. I'm feeling a little rummy and somewhat braindead at the moment.

I just called the vet to come back out. I want her tubed with colostrum, and I sure wish she had done that when she was here this morning. She is getting *some*, but I feel like it isn't an adequate amount.

[Lesley Feakins]

Gretchen...sorry to hear of your troubles with this filly. I do hope the little darling will pull through. Sending jingles from PA. Keep us posted.

[Fred]

jingling for sure, and keeping you and your filly in my prayers.

[Sugarbrook]

Just letting you know that I am reading along and just hoping for the best for the little darling. Wish I could help.

[goodpony]

I only just now saw this, we are sending our Jingles from N. California as well!

[Fenway]

just checking in to send another set of jingles. I truly hope that she really is improving.

[rideagoldenpony]

We just euthanized her.

There was nothing left to do. The vet will do a necropsy. Thinks that it was a problem with the "flap" that controls where the air/food goes. Can't remember the name.

It's a pretty sad evening around here.

[Jsalem]

Oh, I'm so sorry. I've been checking all day for updates. Hugs to you and godspeed, little sweetie.

[VirginiaBred]

Prayers for your mare and hugs for you.

:(:(:(

[finelyfound]

I am so so sorry Gretchen. I just posted some advice and then saw your latest post. I hope the mare is OK and bounces back quickly. She is such a lovely mare and I'm sure she will give you many healthy foals in the years to come.
You and your family are in our thoughts.
Jocelyn

[Daydream Believer]

I'm so sorry. {{{hugs}}}

[goodmorning]

I am so sorry for the loss of your filly :no:

[Dressage-ryder]

I am so so so sorry. Hugs to you and your mare. :(

[TrueColours]

I am so so sorry ... :(

Poor little one, poor mare and {{{HUGS}}} to all of you as well

[Daventry]

So sorry Gretchen :(

[shea'smom]

Insert every bad word known to man here.
So sorry for your loss and bless you and the mare.

[quicksilverponies]

Oh Gretchen - didnt see this thread til just now - I am so so sorry for your loss!. I am sure she was beautiful. Hugs and best wishes that the mare will be fine and all your other babies will be too.

[3Dogs]

I am very sorry :no:- speed on little one and hugs and treats for you, your family and your mare

[Bugs-n-Frodo]

I am so sorry, your sad day put my sad say into perspective. Big hugs to you, I am so sorry. Nobody should have to go through this.

[Zu Zu]

I am so sorry - thoughts and prayers for you and your mare and the entire barn family !

[Sugarbrook]

Gretchen: I expected this outcome, but was wishing it would not happen. Every time I have a foal born and all is well I consider it truly a blessing. You have had so many many lovely foals born over the years. Kiss all your babies tonite and lets pray this is the end of it for you!!!! And for others on COTH. Sandy

[tntpony]

sooooo sad :( !

[spacely]

I am so sorry. :cry:

[ilikridn]

So sorry to hear about your beautiful little filly. Of course it's the hardest part of having these wonderful animals in our lives... losing them. Extra hugs for you and your mare. :sadsmile:

[Summerwood]

I am only just now reading this thread-with a lump in my throat and tears in my eyes. I am so sorry for your loss. I hope you never have to experience anything like it again. Life is so precious and fragile, isn't it? A prayer is going out to you and your family, human and equine.

[Quinn]

I am so terribly sorry. I had hoped beyond hope for a positive outcome.

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[wrightwoodfarms]

So sorry. It is amazing how they can touch our hearts in such a short time. Jingling for you, your family and your mare.

[showponies]

You did everything you could do....Hugs to you and you family....
Kristi and Cassidy

[FLeckenAwesome]

I'm so sorry....
RIP little chromey one

[peskee]

Godspeed little one.......I am so sorry

[amdfarm]

I'm so so sorry!

Godspeed little golden girl.

And (((HUGS))) to everyone, human and equine alike.

[Dune]

I'm so sorry, I can't even imagine. :cry:

[Fenway]

I am so sorry. I was so hoping that she'd make a miraculous turnaround. Hugs to you and your poor mare. I hope the rest of your breeding season is wonderful.
Godspeed, little filly.

[goodpony]

Very sorry to read this news, hugs to mom and your family.

[desilu]

Just saw this....I'm so sorry for the loss of your wee one.

[trakehner013]

I am very sorry for your loss:(

[showjumpers66]

I am so very, very sorry!!!! :cry:

[Hillside H Ranch]

I am so, so sorry for your loss. My heart goes out to you and your mare.

[Signature]

I am so sorry to hear this and for your loss. :(

[Cancara]

I'm so sorry for your loss. Hope the mare is coping. :cry:

[PSD]

I am so incredibly sorry....strength to you and your mare.

[alliekat]

I am so sorry for the loss of your beautiful little girl. You and your mare will be in our farms thoughts and prayers.

[aspenlucas]

Gretchen, I just found this thread and I am so sorry. I had a boarder's filly March 6th that was almost the same way. However she could not stand on her own, though she tried and she died at about 5 hours on her own. Swallowed a lot of amniotic fluid. Was a red bag, but the bag broke and I was there and helped get her out. Did the honking/breathing noise and then it went away but she kept getting weaker. No will to nurse. Hugs to you, it's hard stuff breeding isn't it? This was my first foal of the year and luckily I have a break til end of this month when I start with 7 due. I am excited but with bated breath. Sometimes it hurts so much. And Sugarpony you are right, everytime I have a healthy one I thank God for amazing miracles. Same thing with human babies, everyone is a blessing.

[Jessi P]

I am so sorry for the loss of your beautiful little girl - hugs and condolences for you and Mr RAGP.

[Lesley Feakins]

Oh Gretchen...I am so sorry :-(

[nsm]

I am so very very sorry--

Nancy

[Molly Malone]

I am so sorry for your loss.

[DownYonder]

I am so sorry. Godspeed to the little one, and hugs to you and the mare.

[Sakura]

{{{{{{{Hugs}}}}}}} So sorry to see this... Godspeed little one :(

[clint]

I am so sorry. :(

[okggo]

I just saw this...I'm so very very sorry :(

[hluing]

I am so sorry. Breeding can be heartbreaking.

[ljshorses]

I am so sorry for your loss. Breeding can be so heartbreaking at times. I wish you the best.

[Sunnydays]

I'm so sorry for you and the dam. You must be very sad.

[kookicat]

I'm so sorry. {{hugs}}

[cottagefarm]

So sorry Gretchen.
I hope the mare is doing okay!

[rideagoldenpony]

Thank you all SO MUCH for your kind words.

This loss hit me pretty hard -- I just wanted to make it OK so bad.... there was just nothing to do.

The vet called me last night and said that her trachea was crushed down near the base of her neck. She said she couldn't find any indication of an injury, but thought that perhaps she had laid wrong in the mare, or possibly a birth injury -- but again, she said she would have thought there would have been some bruising if that was the case, and there was none. She said that each breath was the equivilant of trying to suck a too thick milkshake through a straw -- ie her trachea would collapse every time she tried to draw in air. There simply was nothing to do for her.

Again, thank you all for your kind words. I appreciate it SO MUCH.

The mare is doing well. She got turned back out with her friends today and was bucking and leaping across the pasture. The only plus in all of this is that we now have a nice stash of frozen colostrum, and I did discover that cutting off the tip end of a big dosage syringe and reversing the plunger works a treat to quickly and easily milk a mare.

[Carol Ames]

ugarpony you are so right, everytime I have a healthy one I thank God for amazing miracles. Same thing with human babies, everyone is a blessing.


I remember so well, the pain is still there :cry:the first experience I had with losing a foal; it was a hiplock:eek: situation, and sadly, we lost the mare as well; they were not mine but, Lazy Lanes' a colt bred for the :yes:Triple Crown races; until then, I had been blessed through dumb luck rather than:lol: knowledge to have foaled out two wb colts with no comp;lications :yes:t seemed oh so easy!
; I Since losing that mare and her colt, I now regard each healthy foal as a miracle:yes:! sincere condolences on the loss of your beautiful filly and prayers and jingles for all still on foal watch.:yes:

[Windswept Stable]

So very sorry to find this post Gretchen and read about your loss.
Cyberhugs and thoughts and prayers are with you. It is very heartbreaking. Hang in there.

[unbridledoaks]

Oh Gretchen! I'm so sorry to about your loss. It is always so hard to loose a foal, no matter what. Sending many hugs from all of us here.

[au_panda]

Golden Pony, I am so sorry to hear of the loss of your filly. Many condolences to you.