Wow!!! Le Champ ASK...

[Tasker]

Just thought I'd share the lead headline from Eurodressage... http://www.eurodressage.com/news/happen/2009/april2.html

[SilverSpringFarm]

OUCH! :cry:

[wehrlegirl]

wow- thats a real bummer:no::no:

[Tiki]

At 1.1 mil Euros??? Yeah, what a bummer!

[DownYonder]

Interesting that his initial repro exam apparently did not reveal any problems. I imagine everyone involved is hugely concerned as the financial/legal repurcussions could be enormous. I wonder if Blue Hors had repro insurance on him.

[Edgewood]

Interesting that his initial repro exam apparently did not reveal any problems. I imagine everyone involved is hugely concerned as the financial/legal repurcussions could be enormous. I wonder if Blue Hors had repro insurance on him.

Well, the initial repro exams could have shown everything as being fine.

For instance, when I was doing my graduate work at Colo State University with Ed Squires (Equine Repro program), we had a stallion that was a long-term CSU alumni who had been donated because he was infertile. However, with every test you could do on repro exam, he had normal sperm. He had super sperm concentration, SUPER motility, normal looking acrosomes on staining, normal morphology, and normal hamster egg penetration; he was very good on frozen semen too. But he couldn't get a single mare pregnant to save his life.

Yes, I hope Le Champ has repro insurance for that price!

[ASB Stars]

Can you say "Le Cigar"? :lol:

[DownYonder]

Well, the initial repro exams could have shown everything as being fine.

For instance, when I was doing my graduate work at Colo State University with Ed Squires (Equine Repro program), we had a stallion that was a long-term CSU alumni who had been donated because he was infertile. However, with every test you could do on repro exam, he had normal sperm. He had super sperm concentration, SUPER motility, normal looking acrosomes on staining, normal morphology, and normal hamster egg penetration; he was very good on frozen semen too. But he couldn't get a single mare pregnant to save his life.

Yes, I hope Le Champ has repro insurance for that price!

Yeah, and essentially the same thing happened with Don Davidoff - passed his repro exam, but only got a handful of mares pregnant, so was sold off to be a Young Rider horse and gelded a year or so later.

[stolensilver]

I wonder if these stallions such as Le Champ ASK and Don Davidoff have balanced translocations in their genes so they appear normal but the genes they pass on in their sperm are either missing chromosomes or doubled up on them making them infertile?

There was a recent article about some mares who had recurrent early miscarriages and they were shown to have this type of problem.

[hessy35]

Wow. That's a bummer for sure! ... 1.1 mil.. YIKES !

[ann kitchel]

How devastating for all involved.........not to mention that this is a fabulous horse..........and a great loss for the breeding market.
I would hate to be in this place. Someone has to lose big time. I hope the new owners have insurance and the poor breeder does not have to take the loss. It would be very sad if the breeder for a moment was a millionaire and then nothing!

[Donella]

Yeah, and essentially the same thing happened with Don Davidoff

I thought there were steroids involved with that horses....?? Could be totally off, just something I heard.