09 KWPN-NA Keuring Dates...??

[Piaffe~Passage]

Hey everyone, has anyone heard of what the KWPN-NA Keuring dates are going to be?? I had contacted KWPN-NA, and they said they would be available in March, well I am still not seeing anything on the website. Reason I'm wondering, is I have to start planning, with the PTO calender at work filling fast, the sooner I know, the better. Thanks!

[sixpoundfarm]

Not yet. Maybe call the office on Monday?

Which site do you normally go to? (Out of curiosity... I am in SE WI, and will probably be going to the MI one, unless there will be one closer)

[Piaffe~Passage]

This will actually be my first KWPN Keuring! yeah! ;) If the Schroeder foal ever decides to come out. ;) I am in Nothern MN, so either way I am going to have a drive, i was thinking the MI one as well, if there isn't one closer, which I am hoping there will be...??

[Indy-lou]

Like you, I am always anxious to learn the keuring dates AND places, but I am surprised that a March date was given. Usually it isn't until late Spring or early Summer that we hear about the dates...My eyes and ears are ready for info!

[sixpoundfarm]

Tentative schedule is posted.

http://www.kwpn-na.org/display/files/2009%20Keuring%20Schedule.pdf

[Indy-lou]

Darn it! I was hoping there would be a kuering in Oregon this year. Really messes with my plans to bring three mares and two foals....sigh

[Willow Mist Farm]

I was hoping for an Alberta date as well. Is there a third tour planned?

[Indy-lou]

Have not seen a third tour done before. I decided to take one of my mares and her foal to an AHS inspection, since the sire of the foal is Hanoverian and there are two AHS inspections within four hours from me. The AHS has approved of my KWPN mare's pedigree, but the mare will have to pass an inspection herself with a certain minimum score in order for her filly to get Hano papers. This is a nice filly, so I want her to be inspected, and it will be nice if my mare gets AHS breeding approval.

[Majestic Gaits]

It would sure be nice if the KWPN-NA could get more locations and maybe a 3rd tour or an early tour. We always have one in our area as we have a lot of breeders here, but it wasn't always that way. The more the people ask and try to host in their area and people tell the KWPN-NA office they need one in their area, they will try to get there. I like that the KWPN-NA is moving the education sessions around to different sites this year. It was fantastic last year.

Kathy
www.majesticgaits.com

[Blue Star]

Also being new to this, is there anything to be gained by attending a Keuring without a foal the first time just to get an idea of how it works and what is expetcted etc.??? Or is it not a big deal and taking a foal the first time out is not an issue?:confused:

The educational seminar is too far away but there is a Keuring scheduled within driving distance.

[jmjhp]

I am planning to take my yearling filly to Silver Creek in Sept, I mailed my paper work off this week. I have never been before, what is all entailed. Braiding? I will need to get a stall as well, do I call the host farm?

[bloomingtonfarm]

Also being new to this, is there anything to be gained by attending a Keuring without a foal the first time just to get an idea of how it works and what is expetcted etc.??? Or is it not a big deal and taking a foal the first time out is not an issue?:confused:

The educational seminar is too far away but there is a Keuring scheduled within driving distance.


If you have the opportunity to go ... just go, don't miss this chance. KWPN-NA keuring are very informative and interesting. But this is not mandatory if you want to present your foal you have all the details on their web site.

In fact the first time I went to a keuring I had my yearling and my sister's two year old. I got a First Premium, Best Young horse and she was first in North America. My sister got her First Premium and was third in America... OK, call it beginner's luck maybe but who knows, you might have the same!!!

[Oakstable]

The KWPN NA mails out a 20-page brochure on the keuring tour and EVERYTHING you need to know.

This year there are 11 inspection sites and 1 harness horse inspection in Ohio.

The education seminars will be held at Pennock Point in Forida, Claybrook Farm in Michigan and Prima Equestrian in Ontario, Canada. Cost to attend is $100.

I see that the site in Calera, Alabama, has limited stabling and limited entries.

If it is acceptable to ask for an inspection but the site has limited stabling, I bet more people would ask for an inspection.

I know it is horribly expensive to host one of these things, but it is also very expensive to trailer a mare and foal huge distances. Many breeders just won't do it.

The KWPN NA makes it easy to register the foals without inspections, but mares need to have their offspring inspected if they have any hope of getting predicates.

[sixpoundfarm]

I am planning to take my yearling filly to Silver Creek in Sept, I mailed my paper work off this week. I have never been before, what is all entailed. Braiding? I will need to get a stall as well, do I call the host farm?

I think the KWPN office will notify the Keuring site you have signed up for of your intent, and they may mail/contact you about stabling etc. Barbara posts here as Showjumpers66, so I'm sure you could contact her about stabling, braiders etc.

Have fun, Silver Creek is a beautiful facility!

[sixpoundfarm]

Also being new to this, is there anything to be gained by attending a Keuring without a foal the first time just to get an idea of how it works and what is expetcted etc.??? Or is it not a big deal and taking a foal the first time out is not an issue?:confused:

The educational seminar is too far away but there is a Keuring scheduled within driving distance.


Sure, its a great idea if you have the time! Have fun!

[Oakstable]

One of the sites is on Prince Edward Island.

I need a map.

[BBowen]

Also being new to this, is there anything to be gained by attending a Keuring without a foal the first time just to get an idea of how it works and what is expetcted etc.??? Or is it not a big deal and taking a foal the first time out is not an issue?:confused:

The educational seminar is too far away but there is a Keuring scheduled within driving distance.

If you have a keuring reasonably close, I would highly recommend it especially if you are new. I am not a breeder, but I did take the 3 y.o. I bred last year. I had been to a keuring with her dam many years ago, but things had really changed. Even with all the wonderful information that is sent out, we still were not as prepared as we could have been had we actually seen the process beforehand. We had worked really hard on my girl's behavior in the arena and the jumping chute, but in the end, she was too laid back. She was more interested in saying hello to the judges than she was showing off her movement. :-D

[sniplover]

Hey guys - If I wanted to try to video tape the Educational Seminar how many hours of storage would I need? Do they allow video taping? I'd be going to Pennock Point and would just want the video for myself and another friend who can not attend to watch over and over again until we have absorbed all of the knowledge!

[Majestic Gaits]

I would suggest contacting the office to see about the video taping. I know the session we had was one of the first and we could of easily used more time so maybe they will expand it.

It is worth going to the keurings. Great education and you get to see a lot of good horses. The more horses you can see, the more you learn!

Kathy
www.majesticgaits.com

[Sakura Hill Farm]

According to the keuring bulletin, there is no video taping of the seminar. Understandable enough- it is expensive to bring the presenters and the horses all together for that one extra day.

We have faxed in our keuring entries and will be presenting two mares ourselves-- one for studbook and probably jumper IBOP and Iron Spring Farm Cup, one mare for Iron Spring Farm Cup and our training/competition partner and trainer will be presenting one mare for the Jumper IBOP and Iron Spring Farm Cup at a different venue.

No babies this year, so it all should be a LITTLE less stressful!

[sniplover]

Good to know - I had apparently missed that bit.

[Oakstable]

Has anyone gone through the process with a Register A filly?

(Assuming someone won't bother with a gelding).

I am guessing that getting the required PROK, endoscopy or performance requirements would only "pencil" out if the filly is first premium.

Anyone?

[jmjhp]

I am bring my yearling filly in Sept., what will be asked of her? Will she have to free jump? I read all the info in the booklet but I was not clear on a few things.

[siegi b.]

jmjhp - no, yearlings do not have to jump. They will be stood up and then trotted in hand, so having a good handler is important.

Sally - I did it with a Register A filly - Rica Veneziana. She was a first premium at age 3 (yes, they have to be), and then I took her to the clinic for all the medical evaluations (x-rays and scoping). The only thing I never got around to has been the IBOP to turn her into a "real" KWPN mare. Oh well, maybe next year..... She's been having some really nice foals for me though. :-)

Hope this helps,
Siegi

[DressageOPhobia]

In regards to Registry A approval, I called KWPN on this matter a few months ago and they said in the keuring a Registry A animal needs to score 50% or higher to be approved for linear scoring. They said it was not necessary to be first premium or keur eligible. I maybe using the wrong terminology, BUT from the rules I thought it necessary to score first premium or higher (75%),,,and when I call they told me that it WAS NOT necessary.

Hope I have not confused anyone, but the rules on the site confused me!

[Oakstable]

It appears that a Register A mare can go into the studbook but not have to be Star quality.

Given the state of the market, my hunch is that the owner of the studbook only mare would quit there and not spend money on any other requirements.

It appears that a Foalbook Register A mare could have a Foalbook offspring with an approved Dutch stallion.

Register A is fairly new so these Register A fillies are just coming of age for studbook inspection.

[Shooting Star Farm]

We have taken a couple Register A horses through the system. They're evalutated just as any other horse. As long as the jury accepts them for studbook, they can enter the studbook (regardless of ster or keur-eligible) once they have completed whatever requirements the Register A parents have not. In our case, we went through the IBOP, radiographs, and endoscopy on our colt that was invited back as a stallion candidate, but we didn't bother with the full sister who was designated keur eligible. She now has her sport predicate and will eventually produce full foalbook babies without doing anything else. This year, we're presenting our Diamond Hit x Havidoff mare--since Diamond Hit has already fulfilled all of the Register A requirements, this mare is automatically in the studbook once presented, and her scores can be considered for the top five. A point to remember is that even if a Register A horse is high point at a keuring and eventually number one in the country, he or she is not eligible for top five status unless all of the requirements have been met prior to the keuring. The reasoning behind this is that many breeders don't bother to fulfill the requirements, so the KWPN doesn't invite register A mares to championship keuring in Holland or list them in the KWPN-NA top five unless their owners have fulfilled the requirements of Register A.

[Oakstable]

A question.

Can a Register A foalbook mare have foalbook foals if bred to an approved stallion?

It would be okay with me that a colt would not be eligible for stallion evaluation.

[bloomingtonfarm]

A question.

Can a Register A foalbook mare have foalbook foals if bred to an approved stallion?

It would be okay with me that a colt would not be eligible for stallion evaluation.

Yes, I believe so since a Reg B (which can not even be presented at a keuring) bred to an Approved stallion can have a foalbook foal.