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ChocoMare
Apr. 24, 2009, 08:01 AM
Having just acquired a brand new EquiBreeze trailer, I was eager to trailer out somewhere for a ride....never counting on the possibility that my Clyde-X, Penny, wouldn't load. She'd been trailered for hours/days before I bought her 5 years ago, so figured she'd be fine with it. Nope. She was not having any of it. Two hooves on the ramp and that's where she'd stop and stay. Not ugly, not pissy or fighting. Just NOT going in, thank you very much. ;)

So I went in search of various and sundry methods of teaching to load with patience and gentleness. Read about/watched on YouTube the John Lyons, Clinton Anderson, Monty Roberts methods of course, but also looked to just your average folks and what they do. I wanted to see the methods that worked for different personality types.

Quickly found that if you have a "moving" horse who's truly afraid of the trailer, then keep those feet moving. My mare is not a "moving" horse, so I chucked that method out. She's a Thinker, as are most drafties.

So I came here, of course, as well as venturing over to HorseCity.com's Training forum to see what all you guys do. After reading one particular post, a light bulb went off and something just told me THAT WAY would work. So I went to the barn last night with My Plan firmly in place.

A fellow border has a Clinton Anderson stick that I borrowed since I knew it was much stiffer than my dressage whip. I ran my lunge line around the escape door hinge and down the side of the trailer. Instead of just hooking it to her halter, though, I went over her head for poll pressure. She's used to this from lunging with my beginner students on her.

With two front hooves on the ramp, I put just enough tension on the lunge line to be annoying and started firmly tapping behind her hip. It took about 45 minutes, tiny hoof step by tiny hoof step, for her to load the first time.

Every single time I saw even the slightest hint of forward motion (up to and including dropping her head to find the Herball Treat I strategically put on the floor 1/2 way in ;) ), I released the line and stopped tapping---praised her voraciously--then asked again for another inch of forward motion. Any backing up was met with a LOUD Giiiiit Up! Forward was the only direction that gave her release and praise. I had no real desire to get her in the trailer actually. It was just a lesson on FORWARD. The loading was the icing on the cake!

I let her stand a while, happily eating the Peep and Herball treats I left in the manger as a reward. I didn't do up the butt bar. Once she started turning her head around to see where I was, I tugged on her tail and asked her to Back. She slowly backed off and looked right to me for leading. With lotsa scritches and GOOD MARES!, I put her in her stall for her dinner (especially since a storm was coming in). Once she and the rain were done, I repeated the whole exercise.

2nd Loading took 25 seconds.

3rd Loading took 10 seconds....and this time I left her in and did up the butt bar.

Because I was calm, UBER patient and not demanding, she never got angry or freaky about any of it. That stick and the line were just enough annoyance that it got into her brain: "HMMMM, standing outside = annoying tapping on my butt and tension on my head. Going In the Box = no tapping or tension AND Peeps! This it be a good thing."

Tonight I will do it alllll over again. Just as if she's never loaded before ever. However, tonight I'll be loading her to the right of the trailer divider, since she will have to be on the right when I haul both her and my full Percheron (who, by the way, walks on/off like it's no big deal....gotta loff it :cool:).

Saturday I'll do it all again but will take her for a short ride to a friend's house. Unload her, let her graze and then reload again to go home.

The goal: Self Loading - We'll get there!

Needless to say, I was on Cloud 9 all night and went to sleep with a GIANT grin on my face. :D

Melelio
Apr. 24, 2009, 08:08 AM
Yep, that's very similar to how I get my fat boy one (though he likes to make me do it every time, for 'practice' LOL)

The tapping, just a medium tap, aggravates the be-yeesus out of them, and my guy finally gets the major grumpy face on and you can hear him say "ENOUGH WITH THE TAPPING ALREADY! I'M GOING ON!!!!!!" And he'll dramatically LEAP on LOL

Now I usually just have to have the dressage whip or carrot stick and attempt to tap, and he'll get grumpy and leap....

fair judy
Apr. 24, 2009, 08:10 AM
TEXTBOOK. good job.

most struck with your comment that "i had no real desire to get her in the trailer actually". thats the ticket. :)

Alagirl
Apr. 24, 2009, 08:12 AM
Like Happy Gilmore....just tap it in! :lol:

ChocoMare
Apr. 24, 2009, 10:08 AM
Yep, that's very similar to how I get my fat boy one (though he likes to make me do it every time, for 'practice' LOL)

The tapping, just a medium tap, aggravates the be-yeesus out of them, and my guy finally gets the major grumpy face on and you can hear him say "ENOUGH WITH THE TAPPING ALREADY! I'M GOING ON!!!!!!" And he'll dramatically LEAP on LOL

Now I usually just have to have the dressage whip or carrot stick and attempt to tap, and he'll get grumpy and leap....

The "Look" is priceless, ain't it? :lol:

relocatedTXjumpr
Apr. 24, 2009, 11:52 AM
I got lucky with Rudy...he'd hop in any trailer any time...he'd back off, turn and walk off, ride backwards, sideways...he didnt care.

Lola on the other hand...not so much.

I quickly learned patience with her and it payed off...we gradually worked down from taking 4 hours to load to 25 minutes. However...if I was at the barn doing our normal loading thing and anyone else tried to help and tried a more "rough" approach...it all went to heck in a hand basket. Thats when I learned if you are having a helper assist you...you both need to be on the same page and literally have all-day-long to get the job done if needed...without getting pushy, or pissy.

I don;t know how many times I would be working on it...she'd have two front feet on, licking, chewing, relaxed ears, giving me a third leg up on the floor...just to have someone attempt to shove her in with a lunge whip to the rear...she'd go flying backwards and we had to start all over again, this time with a tense, unreasonable horse.

Good for you for taking the time to get it done right...it will pay off big time. I am not a very patient person in my "real life", but, with the horses and at the barn I am and it always has worked out for the best!

MelantheLLC
Apr. 24, 2009, 12:09 PM
Great job OP!

The only thing I'd add is that while you are working on forward, you can work on the backing out too. Couple steps one way, couple steps the other. (Only on cue though, pressure stays on if it's their own idea to back.)

So by the first time they are all the way in, they have already backed out about 300 times, so they know how to do it on cue.

2DogsFarm
Apr. 24, 2009, 12:16 PM
Go Mare!
And you too :yes:

I've learned there is no substitute for patience with an iffy loader.
I won't bore you with my story, but my Cardinal rule is:
Never load when you're in a hurry.
Period.

Mare may have a setback, but your attitude should remain the same and you will be guaranteed to end up with a self-loader.

ChocoMare
Apr. 24, 2009, 12:26 PM
Mare may have a setback, but your attitude should remain the same and you will be guaranteed to end up with a self-loader.

This is my exact thinking....hence, why tonight it'll be as if last night never happened. Alas, Ms. P's long-term memory isn't that good. I've been riding her on the Silver Comet Trail for 5 years and no matter how many times we've gone under the Hwy. 61 overpass, she still acts as if it's the first time and gets oogie about it.

And like Relo: I tend not to be patient elsewhere either, but I'll let my arm fall off from tapping before I'll give up or force Miss Thang. :winkgrin:

mp
Apr. 24, 2009, 12:41 PM
I had no real desire to get her in the trailer actually. It was just a lesson on FORWARD. The loading was the icing on the cake!
Because I was calm, UBER patient and not demanding, she never got angry or freaky about any of it.

Those are the keys, whether you're working with a Mover or a Thinker or any other kind of loader/nonloader.

Congrats and well done.

Noctis
Apr. 24, 2009, 01:17 PM
Woohoo! Go Penny! We'll be doing the same thing very soon with HRH Shiv who has a draft mentality :)

ChocoMare
Apr. 24, 2009, 01:18 PM
Oh yay Marissa! :D Now we need pics ;)

Noctis
Apr. 24, 2009, 01:38 PM
I KNOW! I am so horrible about getting pictures, I've been a little "incapacitated" lately, had my son 8 days ago, and riding this weekend, so hopefully will have some new pics :D

ChocoMare
Apr. 27, 2009, 08:28 AM
Houston we have lift off!

I repeated the loading on Friday evening...again on the left side to be sure. And then switched to the right. P got a little discombobulated, but with a little adjusting, she went right in and enjoyed her manger treats. Did up the butt bar and left her for a while.

Saturday, Mr. C'mare hitched up the trailer and I loaded P. She need a little help, but went in without issue. So I did the butt bar, closed the ramp and we headed down the driveway! I only wanted to do a 15 minute ride, just to keep it positive for her. She never rocked or scrambled. Just ate her hay. Such a good mare :D

When I got out of the truck to let her out, I smelled the distinctive odor of manure. Ahhhh, my trailer has been christened. :lol:

I untied her, let down the ramp and butt bar. With just a quick tug on her tail and "Back P" she slowly off loaded and turned right to me. And there was great rejoicing in the land.

Sunday I'm taking her to Boundary Waters for our first solo ride out. Fingers crossed!

pony89
Apr. 27, 2009, 10:50 AM
Freedom!!! Your own trailer and a horse that will get on it!:lol:

I agree that the key to all things with horses is patience. My mare is very quick to pick up on any sign of impatience, and it can make a 2 minute task take half an hour (or more) of fighting. I always try to exude the attitude that I don't care if I'm still there tapping away two weeks from now, I'm not stopping until the job is done. As long as you never give in, I think they start believing you really will be and give in a heck of a lot sooner. Of course, my (pony) mare is more the "scheming" than the "thinking" type, and sometimes I have to tap with rather a lot of "authority," but it gets the job done as long as I do it with a matter of fact attitude, and with not an inkling of temper. She will actually do a decent snorty and wide eyed impression of being scared of something, and will leave you there tapping for 45 minutes making no progress. At that point (or preferably, 1/2 an hour before that point), a big hearty "tap" will cause her to heave a sigh of annoyance and jump right on:lol: She has fooled me more times than I care to admit:lol::lol:

twofatponies
Apr. 27, 2009, 11:05 AM
Brilliant! :D

Trakehner
Apr. 27, 2009, 01:17 PM
YAY! And you did the four most important things!

1) You did it all before you needed to travel (vs. 10 minutes before leaving for the show).

2) You were patient and were going to be working on this till she learned.

3) You kept your sense of humour.

4) You were ready for all contingencies.

It is great when your horse's little light bulb goes "click!"

I practiced loading my young mule a week ago...I had a rope, feed, bright trailer and all afternoon to work...he walked right on. Well alrighty then!:D

I had him out for a road trip yesterday and just got back to the stock trailer. I opened up the side "people" door to get a halter for him and he put his nose in the trailer and then jumped on the trailer through the small door, saddle and all. I could swear he was saying, "C'mon, let's go home! and for breakfast, I'm fixin' waffles!"