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regret
Apr. 23, 2009, 07:33 PM
On Tuesday, I was looking into my unbred mare's pasture and noticed a foal. After going outside, I determined that the foal belonged to a mare who had been checked open twice. I brought the mare up and examined the foal and she looked to be a bit early and was "off". I brought her the a Vet and her IGG was 0. I had her transfused yesterday. I am wondering if anyone has had this happen to their foals and if the foal survived after the transfusion? I have fallen in love with this little girl.

alliekat
Apr. 23, 2009, 07:44 PM
I don't have any experience to share, but wanted you to know that we are jingling for your foal!!!

genevieveg17
Apr. 23, 2009, 07:49 PM
Congratulations on the little filly.
Is the mare producing milk now? I will add my jingles for the little one.

regret
Apr. 23, 2009, 08:05 PM
Congratulations on the little filly.
Is the mare producing milk now? I will add my jingles for the little one.


She is producing it. I am just hoping that the filly will do ok now.

Lisa

Laurierace
Apr. 23, 2009, 08:22 PM
Sure they can survive this and it sounds like you have given the foal the best shot at survival. Congrats and jingles at the same time!

Iron Horse Farm
Apr. 23, 2009, 08:36 PM
Had one that had to be transfused 3 times.:eek: She grew up just fine:yes::yes::yes:

selah
Apr. 23, 2009, 08:50 PM
Had 2 foals this year who needed plasma. Both were full-term, out of experienced mares who never had a foal with low IgG. The foals nursed vigorously, so we were shocked when the IgG's were ZERO on the snap test, confirmed ZERO at Ohio State. One foal got 3 units of plasma, the second got 2 units. Both are vigorous and healthy at 4 and 6 weeks, respectively(and they're gorgeous:winkgrin:)

I thought maybe the first one could be due to the Bio-Sponge I gave (I followed the label instructions...but some tests show that it can inhibit passive transfer...gotta read the fine print), so I knew not to give the Bio-Sponge to the second foal...but it made no difference...both were zero.

I'm saying prayers & jingling for your blessed surprise!

flyinghorse
Apr. 23, 2009, 08:58 PM
Jingles for your little surprise! Hope the transfusion works...it usually does! I love fillies, too!

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regret
Apr. 23, 2009, 10:09 PM
Thank you everyone. I am checking on this filly every five minutes.

Sugarbrook
Apr. 23, 2009, 10:23 PM
Many JINGLES from Sugarbrook Farm and all the ponies. Please keep us updated and I will keep her in my prayers.

spacely
Apr. 23, 2009, 10:28 PM
Yup. My very first foal required a transfusion. He's now a healthy 8 year old.

TrueColours
Apr. 23, 2009, 10:30 PM
Supposedly a lot of IgG's are low on foals born after April 1st and my vet said ths morning they have no idea why this is happening ...

I think she'll be fine because you reacted so quickly. She may need another unit to bring her up to speed but you are doing everything right for her ...

Let us all know how she comes along! :)

Home Again Farm
Apr. 24, 2009, 11:08 AM
The transfusion should help a lot. Did the foal get one bag or two?

I would monitor temperature twice daily and keep a very keen eye out for a full bag on the mare that would indicate lack of nursing, any diarrhea, dehydration (eyes will appear a bit sunken) or any joint distention.

If you see any of those signs, call your vet. Your foal may need additional plasma and/or antibiotics and fluid therapy. Constant vigilance often pulls them through. Good luck!!!:yes:

regret
Apr. 24, 2009, 09:42 PM
The filly seemed to be trying to nurse but was not able to latch on. She seemed to be getting dehydrated. I tried to bottle feed her but she was not willing to take the bottle. Just for the heck of it, we tried to see if she would drink from a bowl. She is drinking from one, but because of how far she is dehydrated my friend has her at her house so that they can feed her every two hours. Prayers still needed for her.

Laurierace
Apr. 24, 2009, 10:33 PM
Jingling away in MD.

bingbingbing
Apr. 24, 2009, 10:49 PM
Has more bloodwork been done? What does the vet say? Did the vet recommend more plasma, IV fluids or tubing? How is her temperature? I'm sure you know, at this age aggressive treatment is key. Jingles!

regret
Apr. 24, 2009, 11:46 PM
Has more bloodwork been done? What does the vet say? Did the vet recommend more plasma, IV fluids or tubing? How is her temperature? I'm sure you know, at this age aggressive treatment is key. Jingles!

Vet said to check the temp once a day. It was 100.1, to watch for swollen joints, to make sure that she is nursing. I am having another Vet put in an IV line so that I can administer her fluids and meds. I know how easily they can crash at her age, so I am trying everything.

showjumpers66
Apr. 25, 2009, 12:11 AM
At this stage of the game, I want them up and nursing every 30 minutes so every 2 hours can be too big a window. It sounds like your making the right decision in placing the catheter and running fluids. Jingles!

TrueColours
Apr. 25, 2009, 07:13 AM
I agree 100% with showjumper on this one. I'd think every 2 hours is way too far apart at this stage of the game. I know as well when we've had compromised foals, I'll take temps on them 3 times a day to try and see a pattern and be aware of and stop something before it gets to critical stages

Hopefully this morning brings better news ...

regret
Apr. 25, 2009, 08:37 AM
I agree 100% with showjumper on this one. I'd think every 2 hours is way too far apart at this stage of the game. I know as well when we've had compromised foals, I'll take temps on them 3 times a day to try and see a pattern and be aware of and stop something before it gets to critical stages

Hopefully this morning brings better news ...

We ended up feeding her every 20 minutes since she was willing to drink. She seemed to be getting better, but has crashed again this morning so we are off to the Vets.

TrueColours
Apr. 25, 2009, 10:58 AM
Oh no ... :(

HUGE jingles ...

Equilibrium
Apr. 25, 2009, 12:30 PM
Regret,

Sending big jingles your way! I really hope this little girl makes it.

Terri

fish
Apr. 25, 2009, 04:53 PM
More jingles for the baby girl.

Jessi P
Apr. 25, 2009, 05:05 PM
Jingles and jingles and jingles for the little girl. Hoping she rallies for you.

regret
Apr. 25, 2009, 11:07 PM
I ended up losing her. We brought her back to the Vets that did they transfusion. When they tried to put in the IV, her heart stopped. They asked if I wanted them to try and restart it but said that most likely she would die. I decided not to. Her mom is heart broken.

Sugarbrook
Apr. 25, 2009, 11:26 PM
What a terrible turn of events. I am so very sorry for all you have gone thru with this foal. You did your best and seemed totally on top of it. Bless you.

regret
Apr. 25, 2009, 11:29 PM
What a terrible turn of events. I am so very sorry for all you have gone thru with this foal. You did your best and seemed totally on top of it. Bless you.


Thanks.

Jessi P
Apr. 26, 2009, 07:19 AM
Oh so sorry things ended this way for you and your mare. Of course she is heartbroken - you must be also. So sorry -you tried so hard. My condolences & hugs.

TrueColours
Apr. 26, 2009, 07:27 AM
I am so so sorry ... :(

And you know you did all of the right things for this little girl and gave her the best fighting chance possible

{{{HUGS}}} and Godspeed to the little one that was lost ... :(

Home Again Farm
Apr. 26, 2009, 10:40 AM
I am so very, very sorry.

AppJumpr08
Apr. 26, 2009, 11:48 AM
I'm so sorry for your loss :(

Big hugs to you and momma mare.

Equilibrium
Apr. 26, 2009, 01:04 PM
Regret,

I'm so sorry. You did everything you could.

Terri

Quinn
Apr. 26, 2009, 03:14 PM
I am so terribly sorry. Bless your heart for trying so hard.

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VirginiaBred
Apr. 26, 2009, 06:20 PM
Sickening. Just sickening.

coriander
Apr. 26, 2009, 07:49 PM
I am so very sorry. It is always hard. :sadsmile: