How many supplements does your horse get?

[*JumpIt*]

I am curious how many different kinds supplements do your horses use? Do you always consult a vet before changing them? (Like the label says to do....)

My horse gets smartcalm for her spookiness, Farriers formula for her crappy TB feet and BAK to try to keep her coat dark. I did not consult my vet about it but I did get the recommendations from my trainer.

[BeastieSlave]

I have one horse who gets two supplements and daily dewormer (I voted 2). I consulted the vet about Cosequin ASU and spoke with another vet friend about SmartGut (he's prone to ulcers), though I don't really consider that a consultation. The rest of my herd of 8 is not on any supplements.

[Daatje]

The mare is currently getting five.

Vitaflex Accel
Vitaflex MSM
Weightbuilder
Fat Cat (1/2 dose)
Moody Mare (the MOST important one as far as I'm concerned! :D)

I've started her back up on Dengie Alfa Supreme for the working season, so once it's gone, we'll discontinue the Fat Cat, but everything else will stay as is to compliment her diet of whole oats and beet pulp. She looks great, feels great......I've had good success using this combo with this mare.

I didn't consult with my vet before using these supplements.

[Simkie]

One, if oil is a supplement.

And also a daily RX.

[ThoroughbredFancy]

My TB gets Ultra Elite Digest and Omega Horseshine.

[LSM1212]

Hoof (to help keep his feet decent)
MSM
Tummy (as a preventative... keep health gut)

So I voted 3. And yes, have spoken to my vet/farrier about each one.

[appychik]

I put 5+, but here goes what and why:

SmartMSM - helps with relieving pain/inflammation
Grape Seed Extract - another, very powerful, antioxidant and possible anti-inflammatory... may help with insulin issues
Fenugreek - supposed to help with insulin issues also and aids in digestion, food usage
Flex Force HA - as an HA supplement... horses can't have glucosamine anymore due to being insulin resistant and possible issues with glucosamine/glucose conversions (or something like that)
Chaste Tree Berry - it's a dopamine supressor... suppose to help with those issues, horse doesn't have Cushings, but is IR... has decreased Gus's need to crib
Magnesium 5000 - as a magnesium supplement
APF- suppose to help with horses dealing with IR, aids/eases stress...

I'm not doubled up on anything and it works for me. The only real $$ is the APF, but just started that. We'll see if I notice a difference in Gus or not. Certainly can't hurt him too much, I wouldn't think.

I do run things by the vet, and have posted many questions on the Yahoo Group, Equine Cushings, with regards to supplement use/recommendations. Anyways, that's my list.

The biggest things are a balanced diet... they will both be moving at the end of the month and will have access to good hay (still waiting on the results). Grain is going to be Triple Crown Lite (plus some beet pulp for Gus)... everything is low in NSC.

FWIW, Gringo isn't on the APF, Chaste Tree Berry or Flex Force HA...

[Huntertwo]

SmartPak Quiessence and Garlic.

[cloudyandcallie]

I sometimes consult my vet before adding or changing supplements but don't always follow his/'her advice, as I do not like to use products containing dead cows (nothing with gellatin). I do also sometimes consult my farrier as he used to be a champion horseman as well as farrier, but I also don't always follow his advice.

Let's see: I use smartpak with a hoof supplement and an antioxidant, and I also give omegahorseshine separately because I cannot give much due to weight gain, and I just ordered the chia seeds that were on another thread here. I used to use flax, but switched to the omegahorseshine, and I used to use rice bran but had to stop due to weight gain. Ditto with Buckeye ultimate finish.
I also use paranex.
And Equalizer.
And POM drinks, which have antioxidants in them. (Not exactly a supplement, but good for horses, the blueberry/Pom variety.)
And anything else anyone recommends to me for hooves or with antioxidants.

APPYCHIK let me know if you like the APF. I've been thinking of switching from the Paranex to it as it comes in a wafer on smatpaks. And is the more expensive version worth it? Please report back. I want to use it as a preventative.

[WW_Queen]

My guy gets Purina Amplify (which is more of a top dressing but I package his daily serving along with his supplements), Recovery EQ/HA, MSM (due to his size, the MSM in Recovery EQ/HA does not provide enough) and Vit E + Sel just because he seems to do better on it (and has had stifle issues in the past).

[I don't know what it is, but he is fatter and shinier than ever. Plus I was watching him in the arena the other day and I think his coat is starting to dapple! Crazy.)

[FreeSpiritAcres]

My mare gets Quiessence and Grand Hoof +MSM Pellets... my vet doesn't think supplements are needed, but her hooves seem to be growing out 'stronger'? in the year that I've been using the Grand and this Quiessence has made a huge impact for her - so even if I'm wasting my money, because it's placebo effect on the owner (me) - it's my money and I think it's working ... ;)

[greysandbays]

Of eight horses, I have one (a 27 year old mare) who gets one joint supplement, which has three ingredients: Glucosamine HCL, Chondroitin Sulfate, and MSM. If I can find pure MSM in powder at a not-too-outrageous price, I might add that to increase the MSM level.

I did not consult a vet on this. The stuff is OTC for a reason...

[luise]

I voted 2. The first supplement is a custom blend from Horsetech of Glanzen lite with MSM. 2nd supplement is electrolytes, but only when it's warm up. He also gets daily Strongid, but I didn't count that. Horsetech is great because many of the custom blends are cheaper than doing is separately.

[touchstone-]

You should add zero as an option.

One of my guys gets whole flax seeds (not sure if they count as a supplement or a feed). The other gets nothing.

[camohn]

2 though it varies which! In the winter it is rice bran, in the summer it is garlic. 2 of the 13 (one with a small hock spur and one old one with arthritis) get a joint supplement.

[sublimequine]

My mare gets right now..

MannaPro ShoGlo, the vit/min supplement my barn feeds to all the horses.
Raspberry Leaf, for her mare cycles
Tractgard, for a happy stomach.

When she goes onto grass 24/7 (dry lotted now), she'll switch to..

Raspberry Leaf
Tractgard
Equishure
SmartB1 (Just giving this a try for a month while she settles into a new barn).

I don't usually consult my vet, but for the Tractgard, I spoke with some University vets that suggested a probiotic, antacid, and some electrolytes. Tractguard has all 3 of those. :)

[Mimi La Rue]

My horse gets:
Electrolytes
Farrier's Formula
SmartFlex Maintenance
SmartTendon

[*JumpIt*]

You should add zero as an option.

One of my guys gets whole flax seeds (not sure if they count as a supplement or a feed). The other gets nothing.

I meant to but forgot and you can't edit polls. :sigh:

[appychik]

APPYCHIK let me know if you like the APF. I've been thinking of switching from the Paranex to it as it comes in a wafer on smatpaks. And is the more expensive version worth it? Please report back. I want to use it as a preventative.

I just started Gus on it about 2 weeks ago. I haven't noticed any changes, but then... not sure what I'm looking for. The regular APF is good for horses without stomach issues... I think the other version is for ulcer-prone horses. If I notice anything else, I'll let you know. I'm hoping it helps with some of the stress of moving, as IR horses shouldn't be stress out :).

[Beverley]

Well, gee, I can't vote because you don't have a category for 'zero.'

Mine are healthy and happy on good hay and water, I'm happy and lucky to say. They do have access to mineral blocks, if you want to count that as a supplement- I don't.

[Queen Latisha]

My horse gets one, a multivitamin and that's it.:D

[Ambrey]

Sho-Glow, Vita-Flex, and Vita-Calm for the big guy, those plus Tri-Amino for the scrawny one. They get no concentrate/fortified grain, though- just the supplements mixed with timothy pellets and a combination of timothy hay and orchard grass hay.

[cloudyandcallie]

Is beer considered a supplement?

[Home Again Farm]

Mine are on a great ration balancer, free choice hay, loose minerals and one supplement - Tractgard.

[Fharoah]

I just took my horse off the recovery EQ HA, legend adequan every month. We will see how he does. He does get ground flax, and complete vitamin mineral pelletted supplement as his grain.

[Penthilisea]

Both my senior boyos (17 and 30+) are on the same regimen.
Select the Best MSM (thru smark pack)
Smart Vite Senior (multivitamin 1/2 dose)

MSM is to keep their old bones going comfortably, and the multi vitamin is because they are on pasture but also get less then a full serving of a balanced feed per day. The dosage is as recomended by smart pack in that situation. It makes ME feel good, I have no illusions that I am adding years to either of their lives.

[JenRose]

Both of my guys that get supplements get 2 each:

25 year old retired gelding gets Omega Horseshine and Senior Flex.

16 year old OTTB gelding gets Omega Horseshine and SmartFlex II-maintenance.

My vet is aware of what supps my horses get but I did not consult with him beforehand per se. ;)

I show the 16 year in the hunters and he also gets monthly Adequan injections as per my vet. Most days he feels too good and I think he will outlast me and the 2 year old filly that I am bringing along so he can retire. :lol:

[Petstorejunkie]

Well I used to be the supplement queen, or at least I felt like it. I researched EVERY supplement I gave my horse, they all carried the NASC seal etc etc.
When i bought a place where i have him now in my yard... suddenly making baggies of supplements wasn't so appealing. I had been providing my own feed and grain at his boarding barn, but judging by his huge condition improvement when we moved i'm guessing he wasn't really getting what i was providing.
my horse used to get:
Seminole perform safe feed
orchard/alf hay
fescue hay
aniflex complete (joint)
msm
2oz flax ground
apple a day electrolytes
1oz unflavored gelatin (hooves)
source

My horse now gets:
Seminole show and sport feed
ultra bloom bran
orchard/alf hay
fescue hay
aniflex complete

Honestly i havent seen a decline in his hooves, water intake, overall condition (quite the opposite), or joints... in fact vet just took 5 xrays of his knee for me and says at 15 there is ZERO arthritic change to the joint
The only reason why i am still using the joint supplement is because it's so cheap i feel like better safe than sorry.

[lizathenag]

zero unless you count salt

[HoofHeartSoul]

first of all: Free choice timothy or other grass hay ( i prefer timothy) my guy eats about 40 lbs.

Multi Vite: Platinum Performance SOY FREE (you have ot ask for the soy free formula) or EquiVM by uckele, smart pack has good ones too performance grass

Farrier's Formula- hoof+amino acids

Cosequin optimized-joints +tendons

Fenugreek- Digestion,stablizes blood sugar,helps expel mucous from lungs and maintains lung health,clears lymphatic system,builds muscle. and MUCH more

Grape seed extract- antioxident, tendons,joints

Natural Vitamin E capsules: - because if a horse is on limited/no pasture it most likely is vitamin E deficient even if it gets the (most likely synthetic version) in its food.
and natural E is better absorbed and maintained by the body. Vitamin E deficiency is identified as one of the causes of Neurological disorders in horses. also antioxidant

Tri-Amino: Amino acids

Flaxseed 4 oz daily- for coat and Omega 3 source and antioxidant

[Beverley]

Is beer considered a supplement?

No, that would be a treat, and only if I'm willing to share.:)

[sid]

Didn't read all the replies, but I would say that it's not about the # of supps a horse gets...it's about the need for the individual -- and the efficacy of the product that clearly shows a clinical benefit that can be easily seen in the individual being supplemented.

[pintopiaffe]

6 of 7 get just their Vits/mins.

#7 gets joint junk too. He's 15 this year and tried to cut off his LH a few years ago. The joint junk makes a noticeable difference.

I do FEED BOSS, oil, Flax and Rice Bran as needed/available (never all four at the same time, usually 2 at a time) but those are FEEDS IMO.

When he was away and not on free choice forage, and daily beep w/ oil, he did have a pretty impressive SmartPak. :lol: I think... mmm... four & five? Jointjunk, Cool Calories, LinPro or SmartVite Grass, and SmartWeight or CocoSoya Ultra SP. <whew>

[county]

I do the exact same thing as Beverly we've never found any need to feed anything except free choice salt blocks and free choice min/via blocks.

[elio]

AniFlex and biweekly shot of Acetyl Glucosamine

[turningpointequine]

My stallion is my main concern as he has a big year with his inspection coming up so he gets:

Glucosamine 10,000 mg
Chondroitin 1750 mg
MSM 10,000 mg
HA 100 mg
SmartTendon

I don't like the amounts of ingredients in combo supplements so I feed them individually.

I'm thinking of putting my foal on OCD pellets because I seem to like wasting my money. LOL Not sure about that one yet though.

No, I don't ask my vet about supplements as he's basically a cow vet so . . . I research on COTH. :)

[jaimebaker]

Well, I needed multiple options so didn't vote. Half of my horses get nothing but a multi-vitamin (because they are on Beet Pulp), with the occasional scoop of probiotics thrown in.

Then I've got a mare that is quite high maintenance, and is on MSM, Glanzen Lite (for hooves), Pre-Ox, Ugard and her multi vit.

Then I've got a gelding on Ugard, and soon to be Mare Magic.

Then I've got a stud that I put on Quiessence in the spring to soften his crest and keep those fat pads down in the spring. He only goes on it in the spring and summer. He also gets a hoof supp though I'm starting to feel he doesn't need it.

The horses that I have on supps, I feel need the supps. There are others that don't. I try not to throw money out the window (ha!!) if I can avoid it. Some stuff I try for a month and if I don't see results, I don't use it anymore. Some of my horses have slow growing hooves that I like to give a boost, and some grow too quickly so I avoid Biotin supps on them like the plague. So yeah, it really just depends on the individual horse.

I'm still in the middle of my trial period with a few of these supps so after 30 days, most of them may leave too (and my wallet will be happy). I really do feel a lot of folks over supplement but on that one high maintenance mare of mine I begin feeling like an over-supplementer for sure. :yes: I still haven't worked out a happy medium with her supps. She's only been on the Pre-ox for a week. She's about to be pulled off the U-gard.

If supplements did everything they claimed to do, I'd probably be broke:lol: Thank goodness some just don't work!

[Kementari]

My older boy gets 2: SmartFlex Senior and Finish Line's hoof one. I've discussed the ingredients with my vet(s), and then figure out which brands myself.

My younger mare gets none.

[WhisperHeart]

i feed 4 but not all my horses get all the supps.


Rapid Flex(joint), Mega-Cell(vit/min), Omega Horseshine(coat), and Horseshoer's Secret(hoof) are the supps i feed.

the hard keeper TB gets all 4

the qh gelding gets all but the Mega-Cell

the mustang and paint only get the OHS

[NowThatsATrot]

When we're both working my boy gets a joint supplement (currently SmartFlex Senior), Omega Horseshine (1/2 scoop), and Apple-A-Day (1/4 or 1/2 scoop in his SmartPak and I add from a separate supply on the days he's going to need more). Through fly season he gets the Organic Garlic (2 scoops) that SmartPak carries.

Currently I'm on "stall rest" and not working so he's down to the joint and fly supplements from SP, which I can't really duplicate on my own. I buy plain flax when I can afford it and add a little salt in place of the electrolytes; he's on a relatively light work schedule right now but I always like to encourage more drinking.

Does he NEED all of them? It makes me feel better. He had a long race career and joint support keeps him moving better, which keeps us both happy; he's got sensitive skin and the OHS/flax helps a TON; if you can find something that helps repel bugs (and I've been very happy with the garlic) why not? And I mentioned the electrolytes above. So I'm feeding things I see he could use, and that I have found to make a difference.

I don't tend to consult when I switch, because my old vet wouldn't tolerate calls for something that "trivial." Current vet probably wouldn't mind, but I got into the habit of researching on my own, and I have plenty of other knowledgeable people I can ask for opinions. I did mention the joint supplement when I first started it, and got approval to double-dose the garlic, but that's about it. Most of the vets I've used don't seem to think oral supplements do a whole lot, anyway, so it's more of a "could this hurt?" kind of thing for me.

[Riva]

my one gelding is on a glucosamine/chondroitin/HA supp & Strongid C2X.
my broodie is currently getting some raspberry leaves in anticipation of getting in foal and a glucosamine/chondroitin supp.

my colt isn't on anything.

[Shadow14]

My guy gets a handfull of iodized salt thrown in with his grain mixture at night and that is it. Film use to come in those black plastic canisters. Feed one of them a day.

[HoofHeartSoul]

Film use to come in those black plastic canisters. Feed one of them a day.

?????

[caballus]

My guys all get ABC Plus Fortified for their vitamin supplement and my Cushings mare gets 15,000 units of Vitamin E daily.

[Auventera Two]

Can't vote because I have 3 horses.

#1 Salt, Vit/Min (IR but doing great)

#2 Salt, Vit/Min, Cinnamon, MSM, Magnesium, Vitamin E, Probiotic (IR/PPID/Foundered)

#3 Salt, Vit/Min, MSM, Pro-CMC, Raspberry Leaf, Probiotic (Ulcers)

[Shadow14]

?????

When we still used film in the old camera's the film often came in a black plastic canister with a snap on lid. My vet said to feed one full canister of iodized salt per day and that film canister made a good measureing device.
A horse has a very soft tong. He can not properly lick a salt block, not like a cow so to give him his daily salt you should feed iodized salt mixed in his grain. I feed no other suppliment but salt.

[luvs2ridewbs]

Horse in moderate to heavy training, shows

Vit E selenium
Strongid wormer
Equinyl (joint supp)
MSM
recently added:
Apple A Day Electrolyte due to lack of drinking.

I give what they show me they need.

[Beverley]

A horse has a very soft tong. He can not properly lick a salt block, not like a cow so to give him his daily salt you should feed iodized salt mixed in his grain.

I know a number of folks advocate the 'horse's tongue is too delicate for salt or mineral block' theory, but I politely yet firmly disagree. I haven't yet met a horse that wouldn't use a block (excepting those who also get supplements in their feed). How often they use can vary widely depending on need, time of year, etc. Feral horses go after licks in the wild, too.

[Shadow14]

.

I give what they show me they need.

How does a horse go about asking for something he needs???

[Auventera Two]

I know a number of folks advocate the 'horse's tongue is too delicate for salt or mineral block' theory, but I politely yet firmly disagree. I haven't yet met a horse that wouldn't use a block (excepting those who also get supplements in their feed). How often they use can vary widely depending on need, time of year, etc. Feral horses go after licks in the wild, too.

Because there is no other choice. ;) Do what I did - set out a plain white block, and next to it set out a bucket of plain white loose salt and see which is cleaned up first. (the loose salt was cleaned up within a couple of months and I ended up breaking the white block up with a sledge into little pieces so they could consume that too. When given the choice, my three clearly went after the loose salt.

I now keep loose salt out available, but I put 1 ounce a day in their feed and they don't touch the free choice stuff much anymore.

[LarkspurCO]

I know a number of folks advocate the 'horse's tongue is too delicate for salt or mineral block' theory, but I politely yet firmly disagree. I haven't yet met a horse that wouldn't use a block (excepting those who also get supplements in their feed). How often they use can vary widely depending on need, time of year, etc. Feral horses go after licks in the wild, too.

I have to agree. I've left loose salt out along with the block and they never seem to touch the loose salt, but everyone loves the salt block (including goats). The horses don't appreciate salt in their feed, especially since three of them are only getting about 8 ounces anyway, just enough to mix in their other supplements.

I do put out loose minerals, which have some salt in them. They seem to scarf the loose minerals certain times of year but they don't use the expensive horse mineral block. I'll never waste my money on those again.

[Shadow14]

I know a number of folks advocate the 'horse's tongue is too delicate for salt or mineral block' theory, but I politely yet firmly disagree. I haven't yet met a horse that wouldn't use a block (excepting those who also get supplements in their feed). How often they use can vary widely depending on need, time of year, etc. Feral horses go after licks in the wild, too.

Mine isn't a Feral horse and I hope he is healthier and in better shape then one. As for his tongue? It is extremely soft. He loves licking me and often while I do his front feet he licks the back of my neck.
A salt block lasts a long time in a stall and often the horses bite it, break off chunks. We put new ones in the stalls this week and they show signs of being chewed. That is all but my guy.
At the rate of 1 oz per day a block shouldn't last long.
Feral horses make due with what they have, that doesn't mean they wouldn't like something better.

[Little Indian]

Monday, 3 year old Draft X- Electrolytes with rice bran
Gomez, 14 year old Westfalen WB- Electrolytes, HoofPower, Accel, Succeed with rice bran and 1/2 scoop of Triple Crown Complete
Ella-7 year old TB- Gleam & Gain and Electrolytes with rice bran, 1 scoop triple crown complete and 1 scoop Manna Super Horse Elite 10
Bentley- 8 year old TB- Gleam & Gain & Electrolytes with rice bran.

[Hony]

Salt, MSM, Glucosamine (injectable), Vit E Sel

[DMK]

I use MSM & E/Selenium, but I'm just about ready to drop the E/Sel given that the price keeps taking a hike and I'm not showing the one horse I thought really needed it for muscle soreness.

[Equus_girl]

Horse #1- Platinum CJ for recovery from tendon injury
Horse #2- none (if you dont count apples and carrots :)

My vet does not believe in supplements

[paintedtrails]

his Smartpak:
Accel Multi-vitamin
Smart B1
SmartFlex Repair (been on since Dec and will eventually go to a maintence supplement instead...used to be just Smart MSM, but I like the other things the Repair has to offer (HA, etc))

Vet recommended multi-vitamin...B1 was a trainer suggestion...MSM was originally just a good to have and for some allergies...Dec we had major lameness and soreness and vet said OK to the Repair.

[SecondEdition]

My 10 year old gelding gets:

5000mg MSM
SmartTendon
Source
Omega Horseshine (1/2 cup per day)


Plus a ration balancer...

I'm thinking about an electrolyte for the summer when he's working hard but I need to do more research on that first.

[Castlegate]

Horse #1 - Electrolytes - Mare Magic - Omega Horseshine
Horse #2 - Electrolytes - Omega Horseshine
Horse #3 - (yearling) Electrolytes - Conform Aid
Horse #4 - Omega Horseshine

[crthunder]

I voted three, though I usually do consult my vet (or farrier) before messing with the supplements :)

My OTTB, Red, who is 7 gets 1/2 dose Quissence, Grand Hoof Pellets and Cosequin ASU.
My Arab/QH Raalph who is 32 and happily retired gets Accel Lifetime, ProMotion EQ, and Nu-Foot.

:)
Becky

[BoysNightOut]

My horse gets 2:

SmartFlex Senior (17 y/o OTTB who raced for 5 years, as well as had knee surgery for a large chondroma)
SmartE & Se (Doesn't have access to a lot of grass)

He also gets 2 cups of Equi-Jewel Rice Bran pellets 2x/day, but that's more of a feed, not a supplement.

I did consult with my vet before adding the Joint Supplement.

[texang73]

Both guys get Source, and the younger guy gets b1... and that's it. Though they both get electrolytes as needed (esp. during our wicked hot summers here).

[HoofHeartSoul]

When we still used film in the old camera's the film often came in a black plastic canister with a snap on lid. My vet said to feed one full canister of iodized salt per day and that film canister made a good measureing device.
A horse has a very soft tong. He can not properly lick a salt block, not like a cow so to give him his daily salt you should feed iodized salt mixed in his grain. I feed no other suppliment but salt.


LOL OHHHHHH!!!! I feed LOOSE salt too.

however, i thought you meant you fed your horse(s) one of those black canisters everyday :eek:.


so thats the reason i was like : :confused:

i just put Free choice Loose salt out for my horse.

[kudosirony]

My horse gets:
Electrolytes
Farrier's Formula
SmartFlex Maintenance
SmartTendon
What's the SmartTendon for? My mare just bowed a tendon and I've contemplated adding this.

My mare is on SmartPak SmartFlex Senior (she's 23), SmartOmega 3, and Vetri HA. The HA was just added to see if it helps with creaks going into winter and we're starting our second month on SmartOmaga. SmartFlex we've been on since last April. I tried adding MSM since I've heard it has anti-inflammatory problems but it didn't work for what I was wanting. In the summer we add Tri-Hyst or hydroxyzine because she has allergic reactions to bug bites, but I put three down because that's what she's currently on.

[justjumpit278]

Our Quarter Horse gelding and Appendix mare are both on ground Flax seed, Prim A Cult (digestive aid), Majesty Supplement treat for Hooves. Our little pony only needs hay and she's happy. :)

[HillsideStable]

I have 10 horses, most of which do not get any type of supplements at all. I have two that are on a joint supplement, one is an ottb who had joint issues in the past and one is my most used lesson horse, I just like to make sure he stays comfortable. My otto also gets omegabran and sunflower seeds to help keep weight on her. But that's all I really do, I think sometimes you can do more harm than good by over supplementing.

[newhorsemommy]

I voted one as each horse gets a single, but different, supplement.

My gelding gets Cosequin, largely as a preventative. He's about 15 years old.

My new! mare (I bought her Tuesday) will be going on Glanzen as soon as it arrives. Her teeth have not been done in forever, so she is somewhat malnourished right now (teeth are getting done tomorrow). Her coat is in poor condition as are her hooves. My hope is that after getting her teeth done, changing her feed, and taking care of a few other basics like worming, I will be able to take her off the Glanzen, at which point she will probably also get the Cosequin (she's also around 15). I'm using the Glanzen as kind of a jump-start to good health!

[Thomas_1]

You didn't have an option for NONE

[Zu Zu]

I'm "old school" just Clovite = 1. :D

[Green Acres]

I voted for 1 since my new mare will only eat one right now.:no: She's on Smartgut and eating that fine. She refuses to eat the joint supplement, I even tried to feed it like a treat mixed with treats in my hand...no go.

[lalahartma1]

Where's the option for zero? Right now, she's on nothing. She may go back to farrier's formula. :)

[tasia]

Where's the option for zero? Right now, she's on nothing. She may go back to farrier's formula. :)

I've used the farrier' formula before. I like the glanzen lite by horse tech better. They will usually send a sample if you call and ask. Just fyi :)

[tollertwins]

Young guy...

magnesium (very tight muscles and high lactic acid)
Focus (weaning that down now that mag is kicking in)
smart breathe (he's allergic to Houston! I am, too).
source

old guy

source
smartflex senior
grand vite

[billiebob]

I voted 4, although rice bran isn't really a supplement in my book either. My horse is a 7 y.o. OTTB.

4 oz. ground flax for coat condition
4 oz. Cool Calories for weight maintenance because it's less messy than oil
SmartCalm in cooler months to help keep the TB sillies at bay (and keep his mind on eating...I wish I had his metabolism :lol:)
2 cups rice bran

[philosoraptor]

Where is the option for zero?

[*jumper*]

Joint (Chondrogen) and electrolytes.

[LaLuna]

Corta-Flx
MSM
Adequan (monthly, so I counted it)
Shoer's Friend (TB feet are so much fun!)
Raspberry Leaves
U-Gard

If it's something major, I will consult my veterinarian to see what they think about the product. Most of the time I just contact one of my trainers since they know my horse better than my vets do.

[Twisting]

Keno gets only two.

Smartpak's vitamins for grass fed and Farrier's Formula.

He used to get black as knight as well but I had some communication issues with the feeders at the barn and he didn't get taken off the BAK before a show. We happened to get drug tested at that show. Nothing came back from the test but it un-nerved me enough to take him off the BAK.

I tried to take him off the the rest of the supplements at the same time I took him of the BAK. Wanted to see if he really needed the stuff. He developed a nasty skin scruff over the period of a month. Within two days of going back on the supplements it was gone. Guess he needs em.

[camohn]

2: Source is year round. I started that last year for "green stuff" supps when we had a lousy hay baling year last year and the hay quality was not up to snuff. Noted an improvement in all feet so they all stayed on it even when we got better hay. The other one is garlic (for the ticks) in summer and ricebran pellets for fat in the winter.

[Anyplace Farm]

SmartPaks Daily Omegas Plus.

[2869]

My horses get
MSM
SmartHoof
Fastrack

[esdressage]

My mare gets 5, after discussing with my vet and putting together a program for her. She's a little older and was having some issues healing little wounds and the like, yet with examination nothing overall seemed wrong with her, so that's the reason we added the top two more recently as an extra support.

Pure Vitamin E - as an antioxidant
Pure Vitamin C - as an antioxidant
Selenium - it's lacking in our hay
Hyla Motion - for her joints
Focus Senior - for overall support

[deltawave]

I voted "2" but it sort of depends. :)

Mostly it's one--a pelleted multivitamin/mineral from Uckele called Grass Base. They don't really need anything else.

But I have one I'm leasing whose owner keeps him on Smart Tendon, and I give the weanling and the Shetland a little fat supplement for shiny coats, either flax seed or Uckele's Omega-3 crumbly stuff. (can't remember the name) :uhoh:

[Teacup]

Ooooh, old thread! It was an interesting read.

Horse 1: Rice bran, flax. When in work he gets about 10,000mg MSM. He hoovers up powdered flax.
Horse 2: Nothing.
Horse 3: Rice bran. MSM.

That being said, all have access to a mineral block and salt block 24/7. The amount of rice bran the two get changes depending upon how fat they are and the time of year.

In the past I've used SmartShine, Omega Horseshine, Quiessence, and Source and would again if needed or if the situations changed. Also, don't laugh, but we've also fed straight unflavored gelatin.
ETA: I forgot to add calf manna to that list. We have used that in the past, but the horse that ate it is no longer around and we just sort of stopped.

[JGHIRETIRE]

Horse #1 - Dynamite Free Choice Minerals
Horse #2 - Nothing
Horse #3 - Dynamite MSM

[Trevelyan96]

I have both of mine on a joint supplement and Omega Horseshine

[TrotTrotPumpkn]

Gelding: 1 supplement: smart msm pellets.

Filly: 0 supplements

[Equibrit]

None.

[Guilherme]

I am curious how many different kinds supplements do your horses use? Do you always consult a vet before changing them? (Like the label says to do....)

My horse gets smartcalm for her spookiness, Farriers formula for her crappy TB feet and BAK to try to keep her coat dark. I did not consult my vet about it but I did get the recommendations from my trainer.

Your poll is seriously defective because you did not give the option of zero.

G.

[GPD123]

Mare: MSM pellets, Smartbreathe pellets, HA liquid
Young Gelding: MSM pellets, HA liquid
Older gelding: Trisport, Succeed, HA liquid.

Electrolytes when needed

[Jacqui]

GPD- How long have you used Trisport? and do you like? I did some research and it looked like the best joint supplement to me. All the right ingredients and correct amount of mg/day.

[GPD123]

Jacqui- I have only been using it a bit over a month, but have been very happy with the results. My gelding that gets it had coffin joint surgery a few months ago and up until a month ago was on the HA liquid only. He had been sound, just not quite as fluid in his movement as in the past. He would come out stiff and work out of it. After being on the Trisport I noticed a difference within 2 weeks, he no longer comes out stiff and his movement is better. I was afraid he wouldnt eat it but he likes it fine. I also like that it's flax based, has added yeast, and is the most cost affective for the ingredients.

[Eklecktika]

Reb gets oil and NW supplement.

Everyone else gets just hay or hay/alfalfa.

I rarely consult the vet, unless I have reason to believe someone is low on Se or something.

[MelantheLLC]

Platinum and a Vitamin E supplement called Nano-E. I have my suspicions that the Nano-E has been effective in the huge improvement in my mildly neurological guy over the past 6 months, but we've made several other changes at the same time so it's impossible to tell for sure.

It's expensive but I have also put my new horse on it, since he came from a place with plenty of pasture to a place with only rare access to fresh green forage.

[supersly]

My horse only gets healthy glo nuggets and dac oil, but there was a boarder out at our barn whose horse got his smart pak that had about 5 wells and her old horses who 2 wells (different stuff, cannot remember for the life of me) and a scoop of baking soda half a scoop of ground flaxseed and also got 25 isoxuprene pills, and it all had to be mixed with a quart of sweet feed and 2 quarts of barley, and wetted until it was a stew. ridiculous.

[Langfuhr]

Tandem, Biotin, Probios and Equi-builder

[Dapple Dawn Farm]

Why was there no option for "0"? That's what my guy gets...supplement wise.

[kasjordan]

Mine all get fed Strategy Healthy Edge and have free choice round bales of orchard/timothy mix. They get soaked alfalfa cubes at dinnertime too.
All three get the same: Kelp, paprika, MSM and whole flax. The mare also gets Raspberry leaves. This time of year, I switched from free choice loose minerals to adding 2 Tablespoons of them into their dinner.

[TB Fan]

My 26 yr old OTTB gets:

Aniflex Complete for joints/arthritis
MegaCell for a multi vitamin

I took him off the joint stuff a couple of years ago to see if it was making a difference and it was, so I put him back on it.

I started the multi vitamin in the summer of '09 b/c it was a bad year for hay and the BO suggested it. I liked the results so much I have kept him on it.

I've debated whether to switch him to 'senior' specific supplements but he seems to be doing fine so I'm kind of in the mind set of 'if it ain't broke don't fix it'.

Here's a photo of him taken about 6 weeks ago. He's MUCH fuzzier now.


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1138430/swan%20running.jpg

[Fharoah]

I used to use legend adequan and sometimes double dose of recovery EQ HA

Now I only use 57mg of previcoxx, vitamin E selenium and ground flax along with his all phase lite.

[morganpony86]

I voted 2-
Horse 1 (24y.): Platinum Performance and monthly adequan IM
Horse 2 (17y.): Platinum Performance and monthly adequan IM
Horse 3 (4y.): Platinum Performance

After hard works in the summer they may get a dose of electrolytes.

[RedMare01]

Three total...MSM, SmartOmega 3, and 1/2 dose SmartControl IR.

Caitlin

[jetandmegs4]

Horse 1- 9 year old OTTB- Cosequin ASU, probios
Horse 2- 11 year old OTTB, shows a lot during the year-
probios, flex max, uguard, master hoof, mirra coat
Horse 3- 25+ appy mare- flex force ha, accel, probios

[PRS]

There was no zero on your poll. I have three horses, two of them are seniors 24 and 27 years old and, to date, none are on any kind of supplements. They are all perfectly sound with no health issues. ****Knocks on wood***** I don't believe in using supplements unless they are needed....so far, no need.

[LovelyBay]

Mine is on a vitamin supplement for Selenium as per my vet.

I used to have her one joint supps, but now that she is out 24/7 she doesn't seem to need them as much.

In the summer I do give her raspberry leaves, I really think it helps her heat cycles be less "dramatic"

[jenm]

My horse gets:

B1
E & Selenium
SmartCalm Ultra
SmartRepair
MSM
Omega Horseshine
Levelor-X - but only in the spring and fall when she has her heat cycles

I do not consult my vet before adding/changing supplements because my vet did not study nutrition. I consulted an equine nutritionist after my horse had a tying up episode.

I probably don't need the SmartRepair, but I'm paranoid after she tweaked her tendon earlier this year and giving it to her makes me feel better!

[hitchinmygetalong]

Well, gee, I can't vote because you don't have a category for 'zero.'

That goes for me, too. McCauley Feeds Alam, hay, and a salt block.

I'm a firm believer in the KISS school of horse care. Keep It Simple, Stupid. :yes:

[Bacchus]

Ditto the no category for "zero."

Mine get grass when it's there and good quality grass hay when it's not. The TBs get grain in the winter. They have a salt block and are out 24/7. All are happy and healthy:)

However, they are not competition horses. Not sure if that would change anything for me or not -- except maybe more feed for more work.

[Valentina_32926]

I voted for 3 but it depends.
All 3 horses get electrolytes and Mare Plus (vitamens) all year round.

Horse #1 is worked HARD. She also gets Vitamen E and when needed - selenium.

Horse #2 is older and still in work. She also gets MSM, and Conquer.

Pony (#3) just gets 2 basic supplements as listed above.

[Mukluk]

My horse eats

1/2 Alfalfa
1/2 Oat hay

purina ultium
platinum performance
rice bran
corn oil
electrolytes if it is hot out and she is working hard
equine senior if she needs to gain some weight.

Apples and Carrots!!!

[TooManyChickens]

My guys:

28 year old QH:
Smart Hoof (he's barefoot now after about 25 years of having shoes thanks to this supplement!!)
SmartFlex senior (1/2 dose)
Legends maturity mixed with some chopped alfalfa forage

5 year old OTTB #1:
Smart Hoof
SmartFlex senior (1/2 dose)
UGard
Smart Digest
Legends Performance pellets (great stuff: 12p, 10 fat, 18 fiber) mixed with chopped alfalfa forage

5 year old OTTB #2:
Smart Hoof
Smart Digest
Will be put on SmartFlex senior when he's close to being put into work
Papaya puree and generic maalox until the generic omeprazole arrives to help with his ulcers! He'll go back to the papaya after the omeprazle course for 1 mo and then will be on Ugard)
Legends Performance pellets mixed with chopped alfalfa forage

Free choice timothy/orchard mix

[Dalemma]

6 horses......2 supplements.....vitamin E capsules and selenium.

Dalemma

[Reagan]

My 3 yo TB mare is on 3:
Farrier's Formula - she doesn't have the best feet and I had taken her off of it but then she graveled right by her coronary band and the vet said to start her on it again
Omega horse shine - all of our guys are on this, gives them a beautiful coat
Smart Energy - she is a bit anemic and very sluggish and it helps give her a little extra "boost"

[Cowgirl]

10 year old mare, FEI level dressage:

Feed is grass hay and Progressive Advantage grass ration balancer.

1. Ground Flax
2. Daily wormer
3. Maintenance dose of Remission (for crestiness)
4. Forco (probiotic)
5. Glucosamine
6. MSM
7. Sodium hyaluroneate (HA)
8. Raspberry leaf
9. Slippery elm bark powder

She also gets adequan and legend, one shot each monthly and an adequan series spring and fall.

[victorian24]

You need a Zero!

I have three girls

15 month old filly
6yo mare- in training
7yo TB Broodmare

They are all on a RB from Tribute, and do not need any supplements.

[BrookdaleBay]

Matt, a 15 year old TB is on two supps:

Corta Flex crumbles and flax oil.