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Phaxxton
Apr. 6, 2009, 09:37 AM
Does anyone pull their Arabian's mane and have pictures?

I've been toying with the idea of pulling my Arabian's mane for some times now and was just curious to see pictures. He has been out of 'serious' work for a while, so I have just left his mane alone. For what it's worth, he will never do any breed shows. At this rate, I'm not sure he'll be doing much showing at all - maybe a couple rated shows per season. He will be getting into more work soon, though, and I think a pulled mane will just be easier to manage. He's a dressage horse, so the long versus short doesn't matter so much for shows... but in my area, I'm not sure I'd be able to find a braider who does a great running or french braid for shows if he does show.

He doesn't have the most gorgeous Arab mane either, so I don't feel like we'd be losing this phenomenal mane or anything... I guess it just feels weird to think about pulling it after all this time.

Anyway, does anyone pull their Arab's manes? If so, please post pics! :)

pintopiaffe
Apr. 6, 2009, 10:08 AM
My guy is 15/16ths Arab. His mane is really thick, and half white (= yellow...) when he arrived, I showed him DSB/SHIH in open competitions, so we pulled and braided. I LOVE the way he looks pulled. I keep him trimmed mostly because it pleases my eye these days.

I mostly do scallop braids.
http://www.angelfire.com/me/innisfailte/images/dance.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/me/innisfailte/braids.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/me/innisfailte/images/pairribbons.JPG

(forelock is loose because he's a stallion. Took me awhile to get used to that look.)

I've also shown him (~*gasp*~) roached (see the current thread on the dressage forum for some great nakid neck pics of horses of all breeds!)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/pintopiaffe/sons%20of%20the%20wind%20show/softwalk.jpg?t=1239026856

Live2Jump
Apr. 6, 2009, 10:11 AM
I don't have pictures handy, but I have known several arabs that have had their manes pulled, and it looked SUPER cute. Really shows off their nice arched necks and made them look sporty.:)

ddashaq
Apr. 6, 2009, 11:11 AM
I pull my arabian's mane because I don't like the look of a long mane and tail. I think that it shows off his neck when he is not doing his best camel imitation. I will post pictures tonight when I get home.

cyndi
Apr. 6, 2009, 11:24 AM
You can see pics of my Half Arab's mane pulled, AND braided in 'button' braids for showing in hand here. He's won four Regional Championships in SH In Hand:

http://www.donerailfarm.com/faxxsimile.html



I pull all my horses' manes - whatever breed they are. I just am not into the long mane look and I only show in dressage or sporthorse in hand. And I also show at open shows.

I think a long mane actually hides a nice neck and a pulled or braided mane looks so much tidier.

Phaxxton
Apr. 6, 2009, 01:23 PM
Thanks, everyone! The horses posted are GORGEOUS!

Y'all are starting to make me think he'll actually look cuter with a nicely pulled mane. :)

yellowbritches
Apr. 6, 2009, 01:29 PM
Pull it! I used to ride and take care of a small herd of Arabs and I desperately wanted to pull their manes, especially the one mare I showed. The owners would never let me (despite none every going to anything breed related). They HAD to have long manes, they were Arabs!!! :rolleyes: I felt so bad for the one mare, who was dark, dark, dark bay and had a huge, thick (as in pony kinda thick) mane. She roasted every summer. :no: And she would have looked spectacular all pulled and braided as she had a lovely long neck that was well muscled. Argh...

We had an very typey Anglo Arab for awhile here who's mane was kept short. He was cute as a button. Wish I had pictures of him.

copper1
Apr. 6, 2009, 01:59 PM
Almost all of mine are pulled and we do hunter braids. I hate all that hair flying around and getting caught on things! I would psot photos but don't know how!

drmgncolor
Apr. 6, 2009, 03:21 PM
Not an Arabian, but a saddlebred with a pulled mane can be seen in my profile. I had to drink 2 beers before I cut it... it was SO long a perty. :)

Arizona DQ
Apr. 6, 2009, 03:37 PM
I would love to see how the Arabs look with a pulled mane..... I have my mare's (half arab) bridle path trimmed further back, Arab style... but, I just hate to pull a mane ..... She does not have the long typical arab mane, so a running braid is out of the question..... I am not sure what to do with it.. She has a bit of a short neck... What to do?????? :winkgrin:

Here are a few pics.....
http://s540.photobucket.com/albums/gg341/teckelhof/?albumview=slideshow

Lazydacres Farm
Apr. 6, 2009, 03:55 PM
I am not sure if I have any "good" pictures, but we pulled our arabians mane, and I thought he looked super cute. It did really show off his neck and I loved it after I did it.

Phaxxton
Apr. 6, 2009, 03:57 PM
Arizona DQ - it looks like we have a similar mane issue (not all that long), only my guy's mane is much more "straggly" :lol: (Beautiful horse, btw!)

If he had a beautiful long mane, I don't even think I'd be considering pulling it... but honestly, he didn't get the fabulous mane gene, and I'm starting to think he'll look better with it pulled...

Sakura
Apr. 6, 2009, 04:10 PM
I like em long and short... And I have shown my Arabians both ways... If your horse has a nice neck and you don't mind spending 30-45 min braiding hunter braids them pull away... however a nice neck can be shown off with a tight running braid too... so it's all good :)

My stallion with a short mane (http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/Copperleaf/handsome2.jpg) (mind you his mane is super thick :) )

Same horse (http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/Copperleaf/ShenandoahClassicCanterLeft.jpg) with long mane in a tight running braid

My mare a while ago (http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/Copperleaf/DDSnow08.jpg)... I have since let her mane grow out.

Same mare (http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/Copperleaf/FallRidesmall.jpg)

ddashaq
Apr. 6, 2009, 07:27 PM
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2322050600098723191BoanSQ

My horse and I are not very photogenic, so this one of the few shots I have that shows his mane.

Sakura, that running braid is LOVELY. So few people (myself included) can do a really good one and that one looks really nice.

Ghazzu
Apr. 6, 2009, 07:37 PM
I don't have any decent pictures of my late gelding Araba Tigris with his mane pulled and braided, but he looked *much* better that way than with a full mane. Since he showed in mainly in hunter and dressage classes, it was an easy decision.

(And I even showed and placed in native costume classes with his short mane.)

asb_own_me
Apr. 6, 2009, 07:45 PM
Sakura - your stallion and mare are gorgeous :)

And looky at Shaq all grown up! He looks so cute!!! Last time I saw him, was he even 2?

pintopiaffe
Apr. 6, 2009, 07:48 PM
Arizona--if you trim a little, scallop braids are as neat as a 'high & tight' french braid or hunter braids... but the mane stays a little longer (my guy's grows so fast I use scallops--I can pull for hunter braids and a couple weeks later have to scallop.)

I completely agree that scraggly is better trimmed. That is my rule. The Heathen Child (often called Fabio by those meeting him for the first time) is allowed to keep his heathen locks only as long as it's pretty and nice. The MINUTE it goes scraggly... OFF it comes!

Sakura--excellent example of what a running braid SHOULD look like, IMO. Trouble with it sometimes is it can restrict stretching down... :uhoh: I do Lusos here and there for exhibitions, I'm toying with not fighting to trim & thin Himself's this year and seeing it braids up french... we'll see...

I don't have many of him not-braided with it pulled... here's a couple blowing in the wind...
http://www.angelfire.com/me/innisfailte/images/pose.gif
http://www.angelfire.com/me/innisfailte/images/strut.JPG

Raleigh's Mom
Apr. 6, 2009, 08:56 PM
My Arab's mane is long again, but these pictures are from when I pulled it a few years ago.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/wicherd/DSC_0187.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/wicherd/DSC_0202.jpg

ddashaq
Apr. 6, 2009, 09:22 PM
Sakura - your stallion and mare are gorgeous :)

And looky at Shaq all grown up! He looks so cute!!! Last time I saw him, was he even 2?

He is 9 if you can believe it!! Classy must be... 14 or so now? He never really grew after he turned 2 so he is probably the same size as the last time you saw him.:lol:

Chall
Apr. 6, 2009, 09:54 PM
About 15 years ago there were pure breds at Arabian shows that I went to that had pulled manes. It was in the hunter under saddle and over fences classes. I'm sure they still do it for those who show in hunter only.

kb
Apr. 6, 2009, 10:51 PM
I pull my half arab's mane. And like drmgncolor - I had to work up the courage to cut it when I first bought him.
Long mane
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=301142&l=e7cbf11a36&id=1456629972

He looks much better with it pulled - it is not braided here and probably needed to be shorter, but hey, small strides, right?

The worst part was growing out the extra long bridle path...the mohawk look was lovely. :lol:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=301148&l=7f43a654c8&id=1456629972

asb_own_me
Apr. 6, 2009, 10:55 PM
He is 9 if you can believe it!! Classy must be... 14 or so now? He never really grew after he turned 2 so he is probably the same size as the last time you saw him.:lol:

Yes, she's 14 this year. Thursday, actually ;) She's semi-retired and hating it so we're looking for a new career. She's thinking steeplechasing....I'm thinking BN eventing will be more than exciting enough!

All the Arabs pictured with pulled manes look fantastic. Very sporty. I like it!

VTHokie
Apr. 6, 2009, 11:06 PM
This is a full Arabian school horse I rode as a kid, even had the neck brand. Showed hunters.

Not the best angle
http://pets.webshots.com/photo/1081773772046948539mBSYop

with hunter braids
http://pets.webshots.com/photo/1082110880046948539jLIYHB

same horse: WIHS local day tryouts - warning '80s pic here - rust breeches :winkgrin:
http://pets.webshots.com/photo/1082104433046948539vwPJGv

eyesontheground
Apr. 7, 2009, 12:27 AM
same horse: WIHS local day tryouts - warning '80s pic here - rust breeches :winkgrin:

This made me smile he he.

I think all of the Arabs look very nice with a pulled mane. I dont have an arab but if I did and I wanted to go short I would also grow out the bridle path. I think it would look funny to have it short and have a long bp. Just my .02.

copper1
Apr. 7, 2009, 06:51 AM
If you are showing only hunters or dressage, I feel the mane should be pulled and braided. A good running braid, tight to the crest looks nice but I think the hunter braids look nicer and more "real" for the discipline. You will be penalized for a short mane if you show in classes that don't require braiidng:native costume, western and English pleasure, etc since a "natural long amne and tail" are part of the rules. In that case you need to have the long mane but these days, very few horses successfully cross over.

Sakura
Apr. 7, 2009, 08:51 AM
Sakura - your stallion and mare are gorgeous :)

And looky at Shaq all grown up! He looks so cute!!! Last time I saw him, was he even 2?

Thank you! :)

bort84
Apr. 7, 2009, 11:04 AM
I remember when I first saw a horse with a pulled mane at the Arabian Youth Nationals several years ago. He was an anglo-arab and he had his mane pulled then braided in lovely hunter braids. He won the class, and even as more of a saddle seat person at the time, I wanted to take him home. He looked BEAUTIFUL in his non running braid and pulled mane - and at the time, I really had not had much experience outside of breed shows, and I still thought it looked best.

If your horse has the right kind of neck, I would absolutely do it. I think there are starting to be more pulled manes even in the arab show rings, and you will fit in more when you're showing at non breed shows = )

Phaxxton
Apr. 7, 2009, 11:07 AM
The worst part was growing out the extra long bridle path...the mohawk look was lovely. :lol:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=301148&l=7f43a654c8&id=1456629972

I'm ahead on this part! I grew out his bridle path last year. :lol: I'd never do a pulled mane with a long bridle path.

As for the comments on whether he has the right neck... Well, his neck is what it is. You see it from the left whether his mane is long or short - and in braids (running or regular), you'd still see it...

I think I'm ready to pull the trigger and have someone pull his mane. I'm a terrible mane puller - and I think I'm going to need someone else to pull the trigger, anyway. :lol:

I will take before and after pics if I can.

ayrabz
Apr. 7, 2009, 12:32 PM
I loff this thread! Our gelding has mainly shown dressage, hunter, and sport horse. But, I admit, I love the running braid when done well. I think it shows the neck as neatly and as beautifully as the button braid or the pulled. My inclination is, that many who own the arab/half arab need to know if its the discipline they are most intent on pursuing, or the 'breed' look.....I for one, love the fact that the running braid will almost always peg him as 'arabian'...vs. a pulled/button braid that may say....Purebred? or half? But in an open show, would not define it as much as the running braid.
Yes, I agree it needs to be done well, and thats the biggie.
Sakura...you KNOW I loff your ponies! Pulled or otherwise!!! You're just a great example of one who appreciates the arab, but has a love of a discipline for them.
I've known some, who have NO intent of ever showing their arabs in anything BUT dressage or hunter and have opted more for the discipline's most accepted look. I'm a holdout...one who says---gosh, he's cute in western too, even though I don't ride that right now!
:)

CJBean
Apr. 7, 2009, 12:52 PM
This tread is perfect timing for me. I own a half Arabian/half dutch harness horse, and have always shown Arabs my whole life and have always done a running braid. But I have been considering pulling my half Arabian's mane since last year. These last two weeks I keep going to the barn to tell myself its time to pull that mane but I keep chickening out.

I was actually going to post a thread asking what others thought on this topic as well.

The only thing that worries me is if I will be able to do the braiding once its pulled since I have never really done this before. I just worry about my hands too as right now when I braid a running braid the palms of my hands ache.

Here is a pic of my mare with her running braid.

http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo230/clongseth/070408-0934e-webGracieHeadshot.jpg

One of these weeks I will pull her mane as soon as I get the courage to do it.

Arizona DQ
Apr. 7, 2009, 01:10 PM
Arizona--if you trim a little, scallop braids are as neat as a 'high & tight' french braid or hunter braids... but the mane stays a little longer (my guy's grows so fast I use scallops--I can pull for hunter braids and a couple weeks later have to scallop.)
[]


Oh darn. What does a scallop braid look like and how do we do that??? HELP?? :eek:

drmgncolor
Apr. 7, 2009, 01:29 PM
I pull my half arab's mane. And like drmgncolor - I had to work up the courage to cut it when I first bought him.

The worst part was growing out the extra long bridle path...the mohawk look was lovely.

I was kidding about the beers. :) However it is good to know that I am not the only one who had to work up the courage. I finally decided to do it when I came off a jump, mind you a small one since we were just starting over fences, and my hands got tangled in her mane. I cut it that evening and pulled it the next day. I have never looked back.

Now I think she looks funny in pictures of her with a long mane.

And yes, the mohawk look was fantastic... especially since she used to also have her forelock roached. LOL

Phaxxton
Apr. 7, 2009, 02:47 PM
I loff this thread! Our gelding has mainly shown dressage, hunter, and sport horse. But, I admit, I love the running braid when done well. I think it shows the neck as neatly and as beautifully as the button braid or the pulled. My inclination is, that many who own the arab/half arab need to know if its the discipline they are most intent on pursuing, or the 'breed' look.....I for one, love the fact that the running braid will almost always peg him as 'arabian'...vs. a pulled/button braid that may say....Purebred? or half? But in an open show, would not define it as much as the running braid.
Yes, I agree it needs to be done well, and thats the biggie.
Sakura...you KNOW I loff your ponies! Pulled or otherwise!!! You're just a great example of one who appreciates the arab, but has a love of a discipline for them.
I've known some, who have NO intent of ever showing their arabs in anything BUT dressage or hunter and have opted more for the discipline's most accepted look. I'm a holdout...one who says---gosh, he's cute in western too, even though I don't ride that right now!
:)

Thanks for posting. One of my biggest concerns about keeping his mane long is that I don't know anyone who can do a high-quality running braid where I live now. I'm afraid if we do show, we'll wind up with a terrible braiding job. I'm just honestly not that good at it.

Phaxxton
Apr. 7, 2009, 02:48 PM
:yes:
This tread is perfect timing for me. I own a half Arabian/half dutch harness horse, and have always shown Arabs my whole life and have always done a running braid. But I have been considering pulling my half Arabian's mane since last year. These last two weeks I keep going to the barn to tell myself its time to pull that mane but I keep chickening out.

I was actually going to post a thread asking what others thought on this topic as well.

The only thing that worries me is if I will be able to do the braiding once its pulled since I have never really done this before. I just worry about my hands too as right now when I braid a running braid the palms of my hands ache.

Here is a pic of my mare with her running braid.

http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/oo230/clongseth/070408-0934e-webGracieHeadshot.jpg

One of these weeks I will pull her mane as soon as I get the courage to do it.

She is GORGEOUS and you do a lovely running braid. If I could braid like that, I'd keep it long!

CJBean
Apr. 7, 2009, 05:15 PM
:yes:

She is GORGEOUS and you do a lovely running braid. If I could braid like that, I'd keep it long!

Thanks for the compliments, I love her to death. As I have been reading this thread I am so close to making the decision to pull that mane. But now you have put me back on the fence on weather or not to do it, :lol:

enjoytheride
Apr. 7, 2009, 05:28 PM
This is the mare I ride, she's 1/2 arab 1/2 hanovarian. I think she looks much better with her mane pulled.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/20892581@N04/3422422648/

Hampton Bay
Apr. 7, 2009, 08:33 PM
I had my boy's mane pulled last year. Or rather, I had roached it after he rubbed a bunch of it out, and what grew back by the time I took him to a show was the perfect length for button braids.

Now that I am riding him, I am thinking I may roach it again. By the time I take him to a show in November, it will be a good length to do button braids. Its just too long and awkward to try to ride with all that thick, long mane in the way.

My boarder is going to kill me :)

And I wish I had pics of him all braided up, but sadly the batteries in my camera died that day.

Phaxxton
Apr. 8, 2009, 08:47 AM
I'm even DREAMING about my boy's mane these days. Last night I dreamed I had someone come to body clip him and they also clipped off his mane... so instead of "long" or "pulled," I had roached. :lol: (I prefer the mane handle - just in case! :lol:)

Zelda
Apr. 9, 2009, 11:04 AM
I don't pull my full Arab's mane, I just whack it off with scissors. I wish I knew
how to make it look more feathered at the ends. I love the classic button braid look on a dressage horse, so it wasn't a difficult decision to cut it off.
Here he is at his first show....

http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2915887670105032759SiVNeV

copper1
Apr. 9, 2009, 07:13 PM
Just cutting the mane leaves blunt ends that will slide out of a braid. You can take an old clipper blade and back comb and cut and it will taper the ends to give a more pulled look. If your mane is really thick the blades will only shorten without too much thinning.
Doing a running braid is not difficult, just like any other braiding job-practice, practice, practice!

joharavhf
Apr. 9, 2009, 09:46 PM
Me! Me! I pull and braid my kids' manes like "hunters" or "dressage" horses, depending on what we're doing.

Here are some pics of my mare, Johara:

As a 2 year old - pulled and braided like a hunter (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/photo.php?pid=5365305&id=607510304)
Same Show, different angle (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/photo.php?pid=5365306&id=607510304)
Same mare as a 3 year old in a running braid (http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/photo.php?pid=3452803&id=607510304)

I always pulled my old Arab's mane, too. He had a hideous mane, so it was really the only option!

Montanas_Girl
Apr. 10, 2009, 09:45 AM
I finally caved in and pulled my Half Arab gelding's mane about a year and a half ago. We show exclusively in the hunters now, so, when in Rome...I took SUCH heat from the breed show crowd.

I personally think his mane was easier to keep under control and looking nice when it was long. I always kept it in braids, and I can do a very nice running braid in about 5 minutes or a double running braid in 10 minutes. Now that it is pulled, it stands up in all kinds of crazy ways and is so thick that I spend an hour every week pulling it to try to make it better. BUT when it is lying flat he looks very cute and sporty. When he retires, I will grow his mane back out again.

With his mane down a few months before I pulled it:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30954016&l=b894290665&id=52700902
In a running braid:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30866217&l=7231b5f759&id=52700902
Pulled and flattened:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31488153&l=25794ef7ee&id=52700902

Catalina
Apr. 10, 2009, 10:29 AM
When I owned an Arab, I pulled his mane because long manes drive me crazy. http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL930/1750828/3797634/360997769.jpg

Funny thing was, his mane was the easiest to pull out of all of my horses and he stood like a statue the whole time.

ambar
Apr. 10, 2009, 03:25 PM
I love long manes, personally, but when I sent my 3yo out to be started, she'd rubbed half of it out, and had been "pulled" (actually whacked off with a scissors) the previous season, so I said "just do what you want with it", and she came back tidily pulled.

On this page the top photo has her in a running braid (for which her mane was too short, so it was coming apart, sigh). The bottom picture is hunter braids done by a pro.

http://ambararabians.com/mares/ada-intuition.shtml

Jennifer Alcott
Apr. 10, 2009, 06:19 PM
Life is short.

Do whatever you want to do.

Pull it.

Roach it.

Twist it into dreadlocks!

Braid it into cornrows!

Dye it purple!

Whatever make you and your horse happy!

As one who has recently had a healthy dose of "perspective", I can tell you from the bottom of my heart--DO WHATEVER YOU WANT! :)

For photos of my 7/8ths Ay-rab with his roached mane (albeit growing out a bit), see http://www.theshingleshanty.com.


JTA