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Mimi La Rue
Apr. 3, 2009, 12:28 PM
I got this Pessoa saddle for free. It's in rough shape, just needs some restiching on the flaps and panel and a nice cleaning. Is this an older Pessoa -- the ones made in France? Is it even worth trying to fix up or should I just leave it be.

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q280/kirsten627/saddle001.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q280/kirsten627/saddle002.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q280/kirsten627/saddle027.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q280/kirsten627/saddle003.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q280/kirsten627/saddle004.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q280/kirsten627/saddle005.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q280/kirsten627/saddle006.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q280/kirsten627/saddle007.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q280/kirsten627/saddle008.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q280/kirsten627/saddle010.jpg
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q280/kirsten627/saddle013.jpg
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dmj
Apr. 3, 2009, 12:37 PM
it looks like my GenX that is also a bit older and made in either France or England - can't remember - either way, I love the saddle. Simple, not too much going on in the way of padding and blocking, fits my horse great.

Mimi La Rue
Apr. 3, 2009, 01:30 PM
GenX's were made in France? I kind of assumed all were made in Argentina.

What year is this saddle?

ExJumper
Apr. 3, 2009, 01:35 PM
GenX's were made in France? I kind of assumed all were made in Argentina.

What year is this saddle?

I think it was assembled in Argentina from leather tanned in france.

Or something...

:)

chawley
Apr. 3, 2009, 01:48 PM
If you go back and read the Pessoa vs. MToulouse saddle thread, you will read the entire history of Pessoa's manufacturing, courtesy of PROTACKGUY. I can't see your pictures (photobucket blocked on work server), but according to him, none of the Pessoas were made in France, and many that people think are English-made, were always made in Argentina, including the Pessoa pony saddle and the Gen X. I've owned late 90s/early 2000 Pessoas made in Argentina and they were very good saddles. Don't blindly follow that concept that only the English-made versions are good because it's not true. The Pessoa pony saddle is one of the most popular Pessoas sold and made in Argentina. Hopefully, PROTACKGUY will see your post and will be able to tell you about your saddle.

Edited to add that the leather is French leather.

dmj
Apr. 3, 2009, 01:51 PM
I bought mine lightly used in 2002 or so - it has the same 'Cuir de France stamp' on it. Has held up great. I don't care where it was made, it is a nice saddle that has held up over the years and fits my horse well. I have used it for everything from 3'9" jumpers to trail riding, and wouldn't say that I have taken the best care of it - still in great shape.

caradino
Apr. 3, 2009, 02:03 PM
looks like my GenX..

Mayaty02
Apr. 3, 2009, 02:33 PM
To me it's the spitting image of my Rodrigo Stadium, which was from probaby 2002ish. Depending on the cost of repairs, the saddle is not value-less, so I'd be inclined to give it some work if the economics of the repairs work out. The "cuir en France" does refer to the leather being from France. It was made in Argentina.

Mimi La Rue
Apr. 3, 2009, 02:36 PM
^Thanks. I was thinking it was a stadium too because it has pretty long flaps. The person who gave it to me said it was a 16.5 and all the 16.5 Pessoa's I have rode in did not fit my long legs. This saddle fits me fine so I was thinking it was the stadium, unless it's a GenX with longer flaps.

I am going to take it to a local saddle repair shop today to let me know how much it will be to bring this saddle back to life.

ExJumper
Apr. 3, 2009, 02:43 PM
An aside: how come no one ever gives ME free saddles...

Mimi La Rue
Apr. 3, 2009, 03:19 PM
Well if this saddle is going to cost a few hundred to fix up, I will probably give it away too.

dmj
Apr. 3, 2009, 04:24 PM
I'll take it off your hands if you decide you don't want it! :)

Mayaty02
Apr. 3, 2009, 06:25 PM
Well if this saddle is going to cost a few hundred to fix up, I will probably give it away too.

The saddle in excellent conditon is probably worth around $700-900 on ebay so consider that when you consider whether or not it's a giveaway. In fact you probably could sell it for a couple hundred on ebay in it's current condition...

Pirateer
Apr. 3, 2009, 07:32 PM
I know I got a good deal, but I had someone fix up similar issues (one flap coming apart) for like $15 from a local leather guy.

PROTACKGUY
Apr. 3, 2009, 10:25 PM
Looks like a Stadium to me as well.
I will forward the photos to Pessoa just to make sure.

Mimi La Rue
Apr. 3, 2009, 10:40 PM
Looks like a Stadium to me as well.
I will forward the photos to Pessoa just to make sure.

Thanks so much! :D


I took it to my local saddle repair shop and they are going to fix the stitching and clean it for $50. I will get it back on Wednesday!

PROTACKGUY
Apr. 6, 2009, 11:14 AM
I confirmed the identification with Pessoa.
The saddle is a Gen-X produced in the fall of the year 2000.