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webmistress32
Apr. 2, 2009, 10:41 AM
did anyone notice that the sponsor of the bill's name is:
- wait for it -
"Rep. Edward Butcher" :lol:
Woodland
Apr. 2, 2009, 10:47 AM
did anyone notice that the sponsor of the bill's name is:
- wait for it -
"Rep. Edward Butcher" :lol:
I thought that was pretty punny!
They are debating a similar bill in Springfield, Illinois today. I called my Rep first thing this AM and asked her to please vote YES! She is a horse lover and a good common sense person. I trust her to help get this passed. I know my State Senator is on board - his children come to my summer day camp.
tkhawk
Apr. 2, 2009, 11:02 AM
I called my Rep first thing this AM and asked her to please vote YES! She is a horse lover and a good common sense person.
So what exactly do you mean by that?
jenm
Apr. 2, 2009, 01:16 PM
They are debating a similar bill in Springfield, Illinois today.
The bill was pulled yesterday when it was evident during the vote that it would not pass:
Article from cbs2chicago.com:
State Upholds Ban On Horse Slaughterhouses
Slaughterhouse Used To Operate In DeKalb
SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) -- The Illinois House has rejected a push to overturn the state ' s ban on slaughtering horses for meat.
Lawmakers approved the ban two years ago to shut down a slaughter house in DeKalb. But critics say it had the unintended consequence of increasing cruelty to horses.
They say that without an affordable way to dispose of unwanted horses, some owners are neglecting or even abandoning their animals. Other owners are sending horses to Mexico , where they may not be slaughtered in a humane way.
The legislation would have allowed horses to be slaughtered in Illinois so they could be sold as food overseas.
The measure was failing 50-67 Wednesday when the sponsor halted the vote.
Another article: http://www.galesburg.com/news/news_state/x1931054345/House-votes-down-horse-slaughtering-bill
twobays
Apr. 2, 2009, 01:44 PM
did anyone notice that the sponsor of the bill's name is:
- wait for it -
"Rep. Edward Butcher" :lol:
There was a kid in my high school class who wanted to go to med school named "Will Butcher." :eek:
tkhawk
Apr. 2, 2009, 01:50 PM
There was a kid in my high school class who wanted to go to med school named "Will Butcher." :eek:
I wonder how comfortable someone would be having surgery performed by a Dr. Butcher?:lol:
twobays
Apr. 2, 2009, 01:53 PM
I wonder how comfortable someone would be having surgery performed by a Dr. Butcher?:lol:
Not just Dr. Butcher, Dr. Will Butcher... :D
bayou_bengal
Apr. 2, 2009, 02:02 PM
Yeah, I though his name was just so appropriate and was very punny when I first saw an article about his bill just after its introductiona about a month or more ago.
Too bad it looks like his bill will pass in montant -- that's not funny at all :mad:
jenm
Apr. 2, 2009, 02:06 PM
Too bad it looks like his bill will pass in montant -- that's not funny at all :mad:
Even if the Governor does sign the bill into law, they most likely would face some tough inspection guidelines that would restrict it's access to markets. Fingers are crossed that it becomes too difficult to make happen and they give up.
tkhawk
Apr. 2, 2009, 02:17 PM
Can such a bill stand up in a court of law? At least from what I read, they included in the bill that if you sue against them, then you have to put up 20% of the construction costs of the plant as a deposit? Not even a nuclear power plant has that kind of exemption???
county
Apr. 2, 2009, 02:32 PM
I think they put the 20% clause in to discourage law suits if its legal or not a court will have to decide should someone be willing to gamble. I think the anti slaughter groups who have gone with the " all or nothing " stance may find themselves hoping the U.S. senate never does rule on the slaughter issue. Should Mt. build a plant and the Senate be pushed to rule, they rule each state has the right to decide themselves the " all or nothing " could easily end up nothing. The states especially in livestock producing areas would pass aproval for more plants and the less then 1% of horses slaughtered now will skyrocket.
MSP
Apr. 2, 2009, 03:23 PM
I agree, I see a major back fire happening. I think it would be a better time to legislate humane standards for equine slaughter. You know before a plant is built!
Here is a list of states gearing up, scroll down to where it says "Other State's Equine Legislative Issues"
http://www.mo-equine.org/LegislativeIssues.htm
I still question the market for horse meat and I wonder if it just simply to fight the purposed federal ban .
tkhawk
Apr. 2, 2009, 04:33 PM
What kind of group is the Missouri Equine council?
I still don't get how they added the 20%. I am not talking about the plant, but the law itself. If that were legal, you could bypass everything. They could put a nuclear plant everywhere with a law stating that anybody who sues should put a deposit of 20% of plant costs. The courts are there to interpret the law-the legislature is trying to bypass the courts itself by erecting a very high financial barrier-like a poll tax. You can vote-but you have to pay so much money to vote. I was just wondering about the legality of this provision alone?
Well things can backfire in so many ways. It may push so many people who would never dream of supporting HSUS, right into their arms too. One never knows which way the wind blows. Lets wait and see how this all plays out.
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