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Cartfall
Mar. 21, 2009, 08:05 PM
From one very tired hazard judge, it was a spectacular day. We had lovely 70ish weather light wind and clear blue sky.

The morning was pretty uneventful with the Intermediate levels. Saw some good drivers, met some nice folks (hello Jenny) and just enjoyed watching people drive their horses.

When the Advanced folks came on, they definitely stepped it up a few notches. Lots more speed, more agressive manuvers.

Gate A required all drivers to drive through the bridge, B was down in the water to the west of the bridge, C was on the pond on the east side of the bridge and required the drivers to drop again down into the water. D was out on the opposite side of the west pond--so the drivers had to again drop down into the water. E was on the east side pond--again requiring the drivers to come in to that pond. F was a gate that could be navigated without water at the other end of the bridge.

A lot of drivers took the long way from D to E coming into a tight gate. I was standing on the outside of the hazard on a small ledge/path just out of the pond. A fence seperated me and the horses. Many drivers over shot that gate coming into the water to get to E. I saw a lot of fancy driving of folks getting into that gate at the last minute. teams became almost a unicorn at the left leader would almost drop behind the right leader to squeese through.

Some great driving by a lot of folks. Makes a long day go quickly!!! Sara Schmidt and Keady Caldwell showed what champion drivers they are. I had to laugh at at Keady--she kept saying "Come on Boys" like a lady of the night calling to sailors to her pair. No disrepect intended as she smoked our hazard beating many of the single pony drivers.

Sadly we had one wreck --Leslie Griewe. She came wide into that gate a lot of folks used to get to E as she was coming into C. She went wide and overcorrected--hitting the post and losing her back wheel--sheered off the welds. She and her gator tumbled out and the pony ran towards the gallery and stopped quickly being caught.

Leslie was hurt in her leg--knee joint and was taken away in an ambulance. ACL possibly-- not broken to what I could hear. Her pony was fine --small cut on leg that bled freely led back to the stables by her unhurt gator. Carriage sat sadly over under the tree looking very wrecked.

There was a bad accident on Hazard 1 (we were 2) that involved Bill Long's Gator. I am unclear of how it occured as Bill's team did not wreck. Somehow his gator came off, evidently hitting a fence and was carried off in an ambulance. It was serious enough to shut down the entire event for some 20-25 minutes until the medics could be present again. Screens were set up. Rumor has it that he possibly broke his back. Prayers and jingles to the gator and Bill's team. We never want to see anyone horse or human hurt. Bill had to with draw as the rules do not allow substitution of a groom at this point.

We had some interesting driving at times--GavinRobson from Austrailia who is always a hoot to talk with, lost a little focus and drove crom C to D through B not once but twice Circling. Too bad because he started off very good.

A long walk back to the office to wait to be released--of course a cold beer helped a bunch. And Shopping always helps. I purchased a new whip which I need to keep clean--so it will live in the closest with the fancy leather harness coming out only for BIG events. Also purchased a bright yellow vest that says in very big and very large letters--pass wide and slow. Great for the road driving I must do.

A big part of this Live Oak volunteering is seeing a lot of old friends.

Over all, it was a great day.

nightmoves
Mar. 21, 2009, 08:32 PM
What is on the schedule there tomorrow? I'm thinking of heading out to watch. I really wanted to go Thur. or Fri for the dressage but had too much work:(

Ashemont
Mar. 21, 2009, 10:17 PM
Thanks for a good post, Sue. Boy, the SP contingent didn't have a good day, eh? Any more word on which of Bill's gators got hurt and the extent of injury? What about Leslie? Geez... her lovely almost-new Batmobile :( Guess she should've kept the old one. Glad there were no more injuries.

sniplover
Mar. 22, 2009, 07:15 PM
Hi Sue! ;)

I have a smattering of pictures, including the sadly wrecked buggy for your various viewing enjoyment http://www.flickr.com/photos/24994333@N03/sets/72157615673638815/

It was a beautiful day to be outside, and to get to enjoy it with such a wonderful crowd was a great treat.

Cartfall
Mar. 22, 2009, 09:13 PM
Thanks for a good post, Sue. Boy, the SP contingent didn't have a good day, eh? Any more word on which of Bill's gators got hurt and the extent of injury? What about Leslie? Geez... her lovely almost-new Batmobile :( Guess she should've kept the old one. Glad there were no more injuries.


I wasn;t there today, Pat, to hear any more on who or what. Sorry. I only hope the injury is not as rumored. I don;t see any competitors much. I spent the day in the woods driving my own horses.

If Leslie's carriage was new, it is in peices now. The rear wheel literally rolled by me sans carriage.

I am sure you will hear more details than I eventually. Please share what you hear.

Cartfall
Mar. 22, 2009, 09:18 PM
Hi Sue! ;)

I have a smattering of pictures, including the sadly wrecked buggy for your various viewing enjoyment http://www.flickr.com/photos/24994333@N03/sets/72157615673638815/

It was a beautiful day to be outside, and to get to enjoy it with such a wonderful crowd was a great treat.

When did you sneak this one in? Not exactly my best side!!!:lol:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/24994333@N03/3375736497/in/set-72157615673638815/

Enjoyed meeting you and you have some serious good photos. I really like the partial of the gray.

Ashemont
Mar. 22, 2009, 09:40 PM
Not exactly my best side!!!:lol:


Maybe not, Sue, but I definitely recognized you :D

A local source said that the injured 'gator was the fellow who works with Jack Wentzel - owner of the team. At first I was afraid it was Manuel, Bill's assistant. But I saw one of his brothers this afternoon and he was pretty sure it wasn't. Larry Martin has also been 'gatoring for Bill and that also had me very worried. Hopefully there will be some good news tomorrow.

Leslie got the new Batmobile last fall. Up until then she drove a 130 like mine. I've seen her out and about a lot with the new one so I'm sure she had adjusted to the new bells and whistles. How on earth did she tear off a back wheel? She must've been flying low!

Cartfall
Mar. 22, 2009, 10:08 PM
This is what appeared to have happened to me. I could be wrong but---

A lot of drivers were taking a dry longer route from B to C, it took them out around several fence section at a good clip. Then they were trying to come into a gate that had a fence along the pond. In fact it is that same fence I am standing in front of in Snip's photo. Many many folks came in too fast and had to make adjustments at the last minute. More than one team or pair the near horse took a hit on their shoulders on that post. It just appears she hit that post and the carriage just crumbled as the rear wheel came rolling by me. The pony went down, and both driver and gator slid off of the carriage. I think Leslie hit her knee on the fence post --she kept travelling forward at the speed they were going--which was pretty fast.

The SP FEI level were smoking that hazard. More than once I ducked behind a tree when I thought the driver wasn;t going to get the horse turned. Even had a pair hit their pole on that same fence post.

Someone said they thought she hit another post going through B and that is what weakeded the wheel weld. I was on the other side of the hazard from B and could not see much of what was going on.

sniplover
Mar. 22, 2009, 10:28 PM
Hey hey, you just happened to be in frame ;) Glad you liked them, I also liked the partial of the grey and the sun faded dapples that looked very leopard-printy http://www.flickr.com/photos/24994333@N03/3376635288/

goodhors
Mar. 23, 2009, 12:55 AM
Some very interesting action pictues. I really liked the Pair of chestnuts, blaze faces, with only one hoof each, on the ground. Also the single bay, lifting up both fronts, to go!

You should give some to Mr Mischka, to see if he could use any of them on his Calendar. Not sure what his criteria are, but worth asking! You got a lot of nice ones.

Nice to be able to recognise some faces on the drivers, and the horses themselves.

Thomas_1
Mar. 23, 2009, 04:28 AM
Cartfall,

As always a great account. Every time I read your postings like this I'm absolutely able to visualise the event.

Sniplover,

You have a talent. There are indeed some really very nice photos.

Gayla
Mar. 23, 2009, 06:03 AM
My favorite (http://www.flickr.com/photos/24994333@N03/3375808715/in/photostream/)

kathy14727
Mar. 23, 2009, 08:59 AM
I volunteered for cones Sunday. Harvey told me about Bill's wreck. He heard a few broken ribs. Kathy

sniplover
Mar. 23, 2009, 12:59 PM
You should give some to Mr Mischka, to see if he could use any of them on his Calendar. Not sure what his criteria are, but worth asking! You got a lot of nice ones.

If anyone knows how to contact him, I'd be happy to give them to him!

Thanks for all the kind words, everyone. It's a lot more challenging to try to capture driving teams with all of the obstacles in there way - at least in jumping, the horse is *over* the obstacle! :lol:

goodhors
Mar. 23, 2009, 02:00 PM
Here is the site for calendars, with phone number and a "contact us" button at the upper right corner.

http://www.mischka.com/shop/home.php

The Driving Calendar is third down, click on it, wait for the photos to load. I always get a couple of these for reference when talking about turnouts, details on the really nice vehicles. If you and someone else are talking carriages, you can usually find the point of interest in one of the photos on the Calendar so you both see it the same way. I save them too, have years worth. Many special vehicles you will never see in person, shown on the pages.

We all wait with bated breath every fall, to see who "made" the new year's Calendar. Then you can give folks you know, a bit of a bad time about being the Calendar Girl/boy when their month of fame comes along.

Good luck with your photos.

Cartfall
Mar. 23, 2009, 05:47 PM
Cartfall,

As always a great account. Every time I read your postings like this I'm absolutely able to visualise the event.
.

Thomas, such a compliment you have paid me. I am blushing!!! Thank you.
Sue

sniplover
Mar. 23, 2009, 06:03 PM
Many special vehicles you will never see in person, shown on the pages.

Thanks! I actually think I have more pictures where the rigs are in focus - since I know it's of interest, I'll try to post some more! It might be a few days though, company's over right now

horseyfolks
Mar. 23, 2009, 08:44 PM
You did a great job reporting Sue! Thanks for volunteering!

Don

MunchingonHay
Mar. 23, 2009, 11:47 PM
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Hey hey, you just happened to be in frame Glad you liked them, I also liked the partial of the grey and the sun faded dapples that looked very leopard-printy http://www.flickr.com/photos/24994333@N03/3376635288/




this is actually a sun-bleached black morgan driven by David Saunders owned by Alan Aulson.

Ashemont
Mar. 23, 2009, 11:52 PM
This just in from Linda Long re: Bill's injured 'gator:

Linda Vance has three broken ribs but will be fine and is home back in Aiken

:)

witherbee
Mar. 24, 2009, 08:13 AM
Gorgeous pictures and a wonderful account of the day. I missed it this year, but will make sure I get there next year. Love the harnesses and great turnout on these horses - lots of money and time spent to get everything fitted right, functional and looking great for the event.

sniplover
Mar. 25, 2009, 08:49 PM
Since there seemed to be interest in turnout and vehicles, I am uploading more pictures to my Live Oak set on Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/24994333@N03/sets/72157615673638815/ - the new pictures will show up at the bottom of the set and start with the one before the close up of the wrecked "batmobile"

I am glad I could share these with you - I did this last year for the local wb inspections and learned a lot. If anyone ever wants to take me out someday and show me the basics, I'm game! ;)

Drive NJ
Mar. 27, 2009, 09:37 AM
Anything more on the injured parties?

How is everybody?

Any news on cause of wheel loss?

Ashemont
Mar. 27, 2009, 09:44 AM
Apparently Bill's navigator simply wasn't holding on and literally stepped off... and busted 3 ribs :( Sad and disappointing. However he's back in Aiken and on the mend.

Haven't heard anything about the lame Batmobile but I'm sure I will at our next club get-together.

Drive NJ
Mar. 27, 2009, 10:35 AM
Thanks Ashemont. While broken ribs are serious, I'm glad it wasn't as bad as it first sounded.

LuvMyVSE
Mar. 29, 2009, 03:02 PM
Your photos are gorgeous and really make me excited for the upcoming CDE season! Thanks for sharing!

sniplover
Apr. 3, 2009, 06:17 PM
No problem - I'm more than happy to share. I'm sending warm/dry thoughts your way so you can get out driving soon!