Weanling/Yearlings for sale- is there a search site?

[Petstorejunkie]

Uggh! I never thought that looking for an unbacked horse would be this dang difficult!

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I must be dense, or google hates me or something. I'm not breed specific, so searching say "Oldenburg breeders" isnt going to get me a broad enough search.

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[showjumpers66]

Check www.warmbloods-for-sale.com

[FLIPPED HER HALO]

Check www.warmbloods-for-sale.com

I second this. You can search by bloodline, age, etc.

[YankeeLawyer]

OP, in addition to www.warmbloods-for-sale.com, try ewarmbloods.net (the web address has changed but it automatically redirects to the new site).

Also, when searching, I would try simply looking for example at the Hanoverian, Holsteiner, and Oldenburg (i.e., X warmblood registry) categories, and skimming through to find ones with some TB in them as a lot of WB breeders will downplay the TB aspect in the ads (in other words, for example, under "Hanoverian," you very well may see Hano x TB horses, particularly since these would get full Hano papers out of an approved TB mare).

Regarding price, you probably can find nice weanlings/yearlings starting at low prices, but even in this market, very few breeders are letting top youngsters go at fire sale numbers unless they are under duress personally of some sort, or are located in a remote location, for example, where it was always harder to move horses and now even more so.

[FriesianX]

I also 2nd Warmbloods For Sale - as well as Dreamhorse and a few others, if you are willing to sort through ads, you might be happy with what you find. You may also have an "area" ads listing - for example, in Northern Ca, we have "Bay Area Equestrian Network" - which covers much of Nor-Cal.

Another place you can search - if you have time and want to enjoy some pretty awful video is YouTube :winkgrin: There are good clips buried among bad clips - you may spend some time sorting through the chaff, but at least you'll get an idea of how the horse moves!

And, sad to say, I agree with the price - in this economy, many of us breeders have lowered our prices - what would have sold for $15,000 two years ago may be found for half that now :cry: Not ALL breeders have done this, but many have. There are good deals to be found - and I wouldn't say a $6,000 or $7,000 horse is a lower quality horse in this market!

[erinwillow]

Finding youngstock for sale can be a challenge sometimes ;-) Perhaps searching by breed at first will give you some ideas about what is out there. Most breeders will have youngstock, either weanlings or yearlings for sale, IF they haven't already sold them on. Are you at all leaning toward any breed or "type" of equine??

[TraksRuleDutchDrool]

I would also suggest looking at stallion owner's web sites. Research the breed(s) you like and find out about different characters/strengths of certain lines and go from there

[dbaygirl]

I would also suggest looking at stallion owner's web sites. Research the breed(s) you like and find out about different characters/strengths of certain lines and go from there

Excellent idea searching stallion web sites for offspring and comp. results of older offpsring with same lines.

Really. Is that right about the prices? That is amazing. If you have $... now is definitely the time to be picking up some incredible deals. The globe is your oyster then, OP. I'm not a large scale breeder, so, nope, my filly is not even for sale, but I can imagine the cost of hay and upkeep in other parts of the continent that would put a huge whack into a farm's operating budget if that is their main source of income. I'm so glad I don't have to sell my babies....yet. ?? Times are tough everywhere. I'm fortunate to live next to many dairy farmers that produce wonderful hay. I'm in SW BC, Canada.

[Kyzteke]

Can't add anything to the suggestions made on how to find the horse you are looking for, but in terms of the market price....

Check out the thread "Update on the Rosenthal colt -- with Video."

That boy is 1/2 TB, but one of the more popular dressage & hunter stallions in this country and he was advertised for $2500. As I recall, the woman who bought him said she didn't pay that much.

There are "bargains" all over the country for very talented, well-bred yearlings who would fit your description and almost all of them are going to be $12K or under.

Good luck in your search.

[Equibrit]

Did you check here - you can set the search parameters;
http://www.equinenow.com/browse-brf-tb%7Cwb
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[vandenbrink]

Equine.com will allow you to do a search by age and breed.

10000-12000 is probably a more realistic budget for that type of horse.

That's the price I usually ask for my yearlings and weanling. I live in Canada and with the current currency exchange that works out to about 8000-10000 in US dollars.

with the stronger US dollar horses in Canada are actually a really good value right now.

[YankeeLawyer]

I was thinking about this thread this morning. I sincerely hope that the next time a poster asks about getting into the breeding business, that those who are saying all these wonderful babies can be had for 5k to 7500 will step up to the plate and tell that poster not to embark on the endeavor as a business unless they are in the business of funding other people's hobbies.

And just because some people are cash strapped right now does not preclude working out part-trade or barter arrangements to help offset the foal price. For example, someone recently asked me to consider trading one of mine for a really super riding horse of hers. My ideal barter would be with someone who got the 2 for 1 truck deal on an F-250 and wants to trade the extra truck ;). Someone else might be able to offer starting/training services in part payment for a good foal, etc. While I will not fire sale mine, I am more open to creative arrangements than I might ordinarily be.

[Equibrit]

That's a problem if you are looking for a horse ?

[YankeeLawyer]

That's a problem if you are looking for a horse ?


It becomes irritating when you are in the business of breeding and selling horses and have considerable investment in that endeavor. And I know I am not alone in that opinion as a number of breeders have made similar comments to me recently.

I am not going to pretend that there are not good deals to be had. BTW, there ALWAYS have been good deals around if one was willing to look hard enough. But generally speaking, you do not get something for nothing, even now. And those that breed the very best youngsters may very well be able to hang on to their youngsters until they can get a reasonable price for them (and reasonable, to me, does not include selling a top prospect at a loss).

[Equibrit]

Demand is what finally sets a price - so sorry, but you are SOL for now while your precious charges eat up your "profit". Sometimes it's better to cut your losses or end up with a REEEEEEEEEEALLy expensive 10 year old! If you really were in the BUSINESS of breeding and selling horses then it wouldn't be such a big problem.

[YankeeLawyer]

Demand is what finally sets a price - so sorry, but you are SOL for now while your precious charges eat up your "profit". Sometimes it's better to cut your losses or end up with a REEEEEEEEEEALLy expensive 10 year old! If you really were in the BUSINESS of breeding and selling horses then it wouldn't be such a big problem.

That is quite a ballsy statement given that you have no idea of what my business plan is and have never laid eyes on my horses or know anything about them. And there is no need to be snarky. By the way, all of my horses are PRECIOUS to me, just as I am sure they will be to their buyers and as I am sure your horses are to you.

The fact of the matter is that if you have a business that takes a substantial amount of time and start up costs to get going, and are several years into it, something is seriously wrong with the plan if you have to fire sale some of your most valuable assets in order to survive what is, relatively speaking, a short term problem.

I am fully aware of the relationship between supply and demand, and can fully appreciate that we are in an economic downturn. But I am not drastically dropping prices out of some kind of panic, and it would not make business sense for me to do so. I am not pricing my horses at what they would have been 2 years ago, and as I said I am more open to creative arrangements, but I am not giving them away either.

[Equibrit]

"I am not breeding in 2009, but that is not a change in plans due to the economy. It was always my plan to put my 2 mares due in 2009 back in training once their foals are weaned, and breed them by ET thereafter. I also wasn't planning on breeding back until the new foals are sold."


Excuse me but that ^ does not say "business" to me.

[Stacie]

Stallion websites that allow their clients to list babies are great. SOs often do not advertise outside of their websites expecting that knowledable buyers will find them. Also, the SOs often have their own broodmare bands.

You can go to the registry websites (GOV, Hanoverian) for stallion websites and go from there.

www.dreamscapefarm.com, www.rollingstonefarm.com and http://www.magicrosefarm.com are all SOs/breeders that I have had dealings with who list *wonderful* babies on their websites.

[YankeeLawyer]

"I am not breeding in 2009, but that is not a change in plans due to the economy. It was always my plan to put my 2 mares due in 2009 back in training once their foals are weaned, and breed them by ET thereafter. I also wasn't planning on breeding back until the new foals are sold."


Excuse me but that ^ does not say "business" to me.

Those are not my only two mares and I have youngsters that are being brought along to go under saddle.

In addition, the aforementioned two mares are very well bred, top quality mares from Germany. The plan was to establish a performance record with them and do ETs as they go up the levels -- you know, like people do with stallions (i.e., campaign / produce multiple foals per year). What about that does not sound like business to you? I have a different strategy than some other people, so?

[ahf]

Equibrit, I have to say I've never understood the position that if I don't sell my foals/yearlings...I'm not a business. ANd that's kinda the feeling I'm getting from some of your responses.

I don't try very hard to sell the young ones. THere aren't that many people who know what they are doing in buying a young one, and if they go off and languish in someone's field, ending up as unbroke 5yo's in someone's divorce sale....that doesn't do repeat business, or my program's reputation any good.

My whole plan revolved around selling the horses under saddle. And since I breed specifically for the all-rounder, once they are going - I have a MUCH better idea as to what market they are best suited and how to get them into the best hands.

I think I breed some nice horses. I also think I am a business, and having survived two audits intact, so does the IRS. I also know how to offload no matter what the age is the horse is not something I want to invest training in.

I have two longterm goals - one is to be known for honesty and honest assessment (Mo Swanson once commented in talking about another professional "If she says the horse is purple, then it's purple. Believe her" THAT'S what I want on my epitaph) and the other goal (which dovetails on the first) is to forge a network of past business trainers...so that when I call them to say I have a 3yo u/s that is (fill in the blank) they both believe me and keep me in mind for their client.

Yes, keeping them until in work is risky. BUT - it is a legitimale business plan and does not automatically qualify me as a dilettante.

[LockeMeadows]

I'm the person that purchased the Rosenthal colt. We have plans for him to be a Hunter for one of my clients. His price tag was even less than the $2,500 seller had him listed as. However, he was very underweight, was anemic with low protein levels, and had a heavy worm load. He didn't look terrible to the naked eye, but if you felt his body, his ribs jetted out, his backbone protruded, and the points of his hips were sharp. Two months later, he is fat and happy. He was Premium at his GOV inspection and was 4th out of 18 for the final awards that day (at only six weeks of age). His dam is a TB that stands around 17.0H and she has shown in Dressage, up through level 5 in the Jumpers, and has Evented through Prelim. Of course, the sire is Rosenthal. This *is* the horse the OP is looking for and he was purchased for far less than the prices I quoted.

However, on the other hand...

I have a yearling Silvio colt that has a sale pending. He is *amazing* and should have what it takes to show from Devon to WEF. We offered him for $15,000 and quickly found a buyer. Once my Rosenthal colt is prepped for the show ring, I would put him in the same price range, although I have no plans of selling him. I have no need to fire-sale my horses. However, times are tough and a lot of people need to move their animals, yesterday. It's a great time to buy, that's for sure!

[Petstorejunkie]

I have some action shots of a 1 year old Irish Sport Horse i am looking at (anxiously awaiting proper conformation shots). Anyone interested in giving me an opinion i'd greatly appreciate it! Please PM me and i'll send you a link. i wouldnt want to offend the seller by posting their photos for all to critique.
(i've never shopped for an upper level prospect before, so i could use all the help i can get!)

[YankeeLawyer]

I have some action shots of a 1 year old Irish Sport Horse i am looking at (anxiously awaiting proper conformation shots). Anyone interested in giving me an opinion i'd greatly appreciate it! Please PM me and i'll send you a link. i wouldnt want to offend the seller by posting their photos for all to critique.
(i've never shopped for an upper level prospect before, so i could use all the help i can get!)

Try to get a short video clip if you can. A video will tell you a lot more than a photo, imo.

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Per forum rules, no specifics about horses available for sale or wanted--that also includes links to sale horses on other sites, even if you're not in any way affilitated. We edited/removed a bunch of posts.

We're working up ideas for a new classifieds system here, so hopefully soon there will be some new options available for this type of thing on COTH.

Thanks!
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